Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

Disgusting.

When REAL Americans(tm) take over from far left liberal Democrats like this terror-friendly Muslim Michael HUSSEIN Bloomberg, we'll never again make the same mistakes that we made in the past. We'll take swift action toward the total destruction of our enemies, suspension of habeus corpus, and public torture/executions. The streets of America's liberal cities will run red with blood, and we'll round up anyone sympathetic to the enemies of Freedom(r) and Liberty(c).

It's the only way we can preserve The American Way(tm).

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that thick-skulled Liberals and terrorist Muslims are hiding behind the First Amendment on the issue of the Ground Zero Mosque as evidence that it should be erected. While the Bill of Rights does protect the free exercise of any religion, you must understand the context in which it was written.

Consider the 14th Amendment for a moment. The 14th Amendment states in section 1 that:

Now I'll admit, it SOUNDS like this Amendment is saying that a person from another country can come to America, have a baby, and that baby is an American citizen. I'll give you that. It does SOUND like that. But the truth of the matter, as explained by Professor Glenn Beck, is far more complicated:

That's right, the 14th Amendment was added to the Constitution after the Civil War to protect the children of freed slaves because the Democrats wanted to send them back to Africa for not being American citizens. This Amendment protected those children as being American citizens so they could continue to live with their parents while they got their rap careers/urban wear companies started. Unfortunately our founding fathers who wrote this Amendment after the Civil War in 1868 didn't have the foresight (due in some part, one would assume, to the fact that most of our founding fathers were in their late hundred and twenties by 1868) to include a date on which this Amendment would no longer be valid. As a result, people from all over the world, many of whom terrorists, have breached our borders in the vulnerable Arizona and Texas regions to have terrorist anchor babies who they will raise to hate America.

What does all of this have to do with the First Amendment? Just like the 14th Amendment, which our decrepit and senile founding fathers forgot to pen with a sunset clause, the First Amendment was also supposed to only apply to a certain group and expire at a certain time.

You must understand the context of the First Amendment and why it was included in the Bill of Rights in the First place. Why was America even founded in the first place? The first colonists to reach Plymouth Rock in 1620 had come here for the specific purpose of escaping religious intolerance in their own land, and to develop a society that was accepting of all faiths. But I ask you, humble listeners, what faith was most prevalent in those days? If you answered with "Christianity" you're correct! The pilgrims were all Christians, the colonists were all Christians and all of our American patriots of that era were Christians. When the first Amendment was penned in the Bill of Rights the markings on those pages were being made by hands that had witnessed religious persecution for being a certain sect of Christianity, and with the swiping of that feather they abolished the idea of Christian persecution at the hands of a governing body in this country until Obama was elected President.

Unfortunately, like the 14th Amendment, the First Amendment didn't come with a sunset clause either. No American Christian living today has been subject to religious persecution in their state (unless you consider being arrested for attempting to kidnap Terri Shiavo's dormant body out of a Florida hospice days before her death to be religious persecution). But like the 14th Amendment, which says that anyone born in America is an American citizen, but means something completely different, so too does the First Amendment say one thing and mean something else. Let's take a look at the First Amendment:

Now I will concede that the part I put in bold does sound like there are no Constitutional Grounds on which to prevent the building of the Mosque on top of the site where the World Trade Centers once stood, but take a look at my changes, added in red, that clarify exactly what the founders intended:

Our founding fathers knew of no Muslims because they weren't around in America at that time. They didn't have the foresight to include special provisions for special religions that didn't exist in America at that time. Had our founding fathers known that Muslims would soon overrun our major cities and gain a monopoly on the taxi-driving industry things would most certainly have been different. Case in point: go look at any painting depicting an American street or city in colonial times. Notice any street vendors selling Falafels? Me neither.



The First Amendment, as our founding fathers envisioned it, did not include Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Scientologists, Atheists, Buddhists, Mormons or Catholics. The rights ensured to all citizens in that hallowed document were only meant to be extended to people of the Christian faith, and in light of this I, and many other Conservatives, believe it is time to rethink and re-write this Amendment to the form that our founding fathers truly wanted it.

You may be saying: "But Wash, I thought you've said on numerous occasions back in 2008 that the Constitution is not a living document?" This is true, the Constitution is NOT a living document, but there are still grounds on which we may change the words on this document if it is necessary. For the Constitution is not a dead document either. That's right, the Constitution is neither living nor dead... the Constitution is UNDEAD; rising from the sweet embrace of the grave to wander the streets of our fair cities, it's only form of sustenance the brains of our slower, fatter and dumber citizens as huddled bands of survivors live on rooftops and cellars, hording whatever food and weapons they can amass in anticipation of that one last battle.



The only way to stop the Constitution at this point is to separate its brain from its body, and when you do that, getting rid of the 14th Amendment and preventing the construction of the Ground Zero Mosque on political grounds makes a lot more sense.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

I think Wash with that one phrase you have summed up the Ground Zero Mosque debate and utterly refundates the left's arguments.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

As an average American, I find the words, "mosque" and "ground zero" and "9/11" troubling when thrown into the same conversation.

Thank you for explaining more fully why I should be concerned.


Alarmistly Yours,

Handmaiden

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

Horrible

I wish there still was a decent man mayor of that hellhole. Take this Giuliani fellow, when you ask him about his favorite football team he doesn't beat around the bush, he answers 9/11 *. None of the religious tolerance nonsense.

* http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories..._08_27_bk.html

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With all due respect to Brother Wash's overwhelming arguments, it is an impractical matter at the moment to amend the First Amendment to the Constitution. I would argue that in the expediency to set the matter straight we need to elect a True Christian™ president and appoint True Christian™ members to the Supreme Court. This is NOT judicial activism, we all know what the founding fathers thought - it's a matter of history.

As to the matter of the Mosque at Ground Zero, we True Christians™ stand ready to solve this problem in the only True Capitalist™ way, we will outbid any mooselimb that wants to buy land for this Mosque and build Christian Churches on any and all available land within sight of Ground Zero. If it weren’t for the corrupt mooselimb backed Bloomberg Zoning Commission we would have done this already and would not be in the mess we are in.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

How is the proposed mosque "desecrating" ground zero when it's located two blocks away and isn't even visible from the site? It seems to be a needless political issue when considered in depth.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

Did you forget about this???



The WTC and the remains of 3000 people are spread all over Manhattan, making all of Manhattan a sacred Christian burial ground.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

This isn't about how close it is on some map. This is about concept. We can see "ground zero" and "mosque" in the same sentence. That's to close for us.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

Ground Zero is in no way like the Friday Mosque in Yazd, Iran.

Same principle, but I doubt it is as offensive.

My argument is that the notion of this being a "ground zero" mosque is simply a media construct which doesn't reflect the emotionally charged language associated with this controversy. The way some protestors speak about the mosque, one imagines that all of Ground Zero is about to be covered by some massive domed mosque topped with a portrait of Osama bin Laden and adorned with banners proclaiming "Death to America."

Of course, none of those things are true. It's simply a mosque located 10 minutes walk from the former site of the World Trade Center. Nothing exceptionally offensive in that.

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

And I imagine if Landover Baptist had a community center/church which praised Jesus and America 10 minutes from that big black rock square the Muslims pray to in Mecca, that that wouldn't be exceptionally offensive either, right?

Re: Jew York City mayor is for desecrating Ground Zero.

Not inherently, no. Though longstanding Muslim view tends to suggest that non-Muslims should be barred from Mecca and Medina and have been barred since the time of Muhammad.

The more prominent reason is the general ban on construction of Non-Muslim places of worship in Saudi Arabia. America as it stands today has no such general legal restriction.

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I think until we TRUE Christians(tm) are allowed to build a church in Mecca with a 50ft statue of Jesus flipping Islam the bird and a banner that says die "die magic house worshiping scum!" Muslims shouldn't be allowed to build a mosque in Ground Zero. It's only fair that way. It would teach the controversy.

Nothing is stopping the Muslims from building a Mosque in the New York City anyway, the liberals there like that. All we are asking is for them not to build it on Ground Zero.

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Finally, Jesus has decided enough is enough. A fundamentalist Pastor is opening a proper Bible readin', gospel preachin' and homer hammerin' church almost right on top of ground zero.



It seems to me plans for the mosque can be canceled now. There is no need for two churches. It would be better not to swamp that small area with churches.

The "mosque people" can attend the Christian church.