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As for the Bermuda Triangle being the edge of the Earth; For starters its a triangle, whereas the Bible cleary states "four corners of the Earth". Last time I checked, a triangle only had 3 corners. Secondly, plenty of ships and aeroplanes have been through it without any problems. The disappearances there are just myths. Lastly, if you look at an atlas, you will see that the triangle is between the American continents and Europe + Africa, right in the Atlantic ocean. How can the Earth be a quadrilateral if all of its edges are in that position? To make that work, it would have to resemble a bowling ball, but instead of the three little finger holes, there's just one triangular gap. Either way, it is still spherical, or at least close to it. |
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He also reiterated that there has been no experimental test of the holographic principle, so it is an intriguing hypothesis, not a statement of fact. The good doc suggested that you might want to listen to an introductory lecture on the subject by one of his colleagues at Laurence Berkeley Laboratory, Raphael Bousso, available here. He added that although the entire universe may be flat, in the sense that it might be possible to describe our 3D universe using two dimensions of information, that does not mean that the Earth is flat as experienced by us. Finally, he says that he doesn't recommend reading the Bible as if it were a physics textbook. |
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God has obviously made it impossible for us even to see, much less actually sail off, the edge of the Earth. That doesn't mean that the edge doesn't exist, however. I think that a lot of nonbelievers think that the Bible was written by a bunch of tribal savages who simply got it all wrong because they were stuck in their own small territory and didn't see the big picture. In this view, the Bible says the Earth was flat just because the writers of the Bible didn't know any better. The problem with that view is that it is totally wrong. For example, in Matthew 4:8, the Apostle tells us that Satan took Jesus to a high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world. Matthew was a well educated man who knew Greek philosophy and mathematics. He obviously knew that the Greeks thought the Earth to be spherical. He must have been at the top of mountains himself and able to see what appears to be the curvature of the Earth. He was not some yokel off the proverbial turnip truck. So why did Matthew write about the mountain from which Jesus could see all of the kingdoms of the Earth? He must have known that many people (e.g., you) would find this concept laughable. The answer is that he understood that there was a deeper truth that Jesus could see with his eyes, but which the rest of us can only see through our faith. It's kind of like Hell, I don't want or need to see it to know that it is real. Before you laugh at us over this, just remember that (as you can see earlier in this thread), the scientists are actually considering the notion that we are all really just made of information. I don't see how a literally flat Earth is in any way less believable than that. |
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Well if you can find a mountain peak from which the whole world can be seen, I would gladly agree with you.
The peak of most mountains are below the level of the clouds, and those which are not would be far to small to see even close to that far. Even from an aeroplane, which flies much higher than the peak of any mountain, you cannot see the whole Earth. Remember in Matthew's time that Australia and America had not yet been discovered by anyone other than the natives (Even though they didn't technically 'discover' it.). If Jesus had gone up onto this mountain and seen America and Australia, why did he not tell his disciples? Why would he want to keep this a secret? |
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Why don't you try reading the Bible, then you might not ask such stupid questions.... |
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And I have yet to be answered as to where the edge of the Earth is. I should like to go there one day. |
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B. Even the scientists say that you would if you stayed up there for 28 days. Matthew didn't say how long they took. Although you are completely wrong about the shape of the Earth, at least you ask reasonably intelligent questions. So, please keep asking away until we have resolved all of your doubts on this issue. |
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