Should I become a Muslim?
 

Hey my Landover friends!

So recently I've decided to branch out from the restraints of western culture and have been studying up on Islam.

Now don't get me wrong, there's a lot about Islam that frightens me. But I believe all the terrorists and stonings and whatnot are the work of men who are misinterpreting the true message.

See, I have always had a problem with the Bible. I don't understand the Trinity. How can one God be three persons? It doesn't add up? And I find it hard to believe that Jesus was really the Son of God. I've read the Gospels, and Jesus says a lot of great things, but also some weird things that I think prove he was really just a great moral teacher and not the God I know.

Also, I don't understand why God had to kill Jesus in order to forgive our sins? The God I know is all-loving and all-forgiving. He doesn't need a human sacrifice to appease Him, does He?

Well, luckily Islam conveniently gets rid of all this! Not to mention, the prophets of the Old Testament all come off a LOT nicer in the Quran than in the Bible!

-Noah didn't get drunk and curse one of his sons to slavery.
-Abraham was actually Hagar's husband, he didn't own her as a sex slave.
-Lot didn't get drunk and impregnate his daughters.
-Jacob didn't trick his brother out of his inheritence.
-Job never doubted God.
-David didn't commit adultery and murder.
-Solomon could talk to animals.

Also, look at some of the beautiful passages in the Quran!

2:42 Confound not truth with falsehood, nor knowingly conceal the truth.

2:83 And (remember) when We made a covenant with the Children of Israel, (saying): Worship none save Allah (only), and be good to parents and to kindred and to orphans and the needy, and speak kindly to mankind; and establish worship and pay the poor-due. Then, after that, ye slid back, save a few of you, being averse.

2:220 Upon the world and the Hereafter. And they question thee concerning orphans. Say: To improve their lot is best. And if ye mingle your affairs with theirs, then (they are) your brothers. Allah knoweth him who spoileth from him who improveth. Had Allah willed He could have overburdened you. Allah is Mighty, Wise.

4:2 Give unto orphans their wealth. Exchange not the good for the bad (in your management thereof) nor absorb their wealth into your own wealth. Lo! that would be a great sin.

9:71 And the believers, men and women, are protecting friends one of another; they enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and they establish worship and they pay the poor-due, and they obey Allah and His messenger. As for these, Allah will have mercy on them. Lo! Allah is Mighty, Wise.

17:53 Tell My bondmen to speak that which is kindlier. Lo! the devil soweth discord among them. Lo! the devil is for man an open foe.

46:15 And We have commended unto man kindness toward parents. His mother beareth him with reluctance, and bringeth him forth with reluctance, and the bearing of him and the weaning of him is thirty months, till, when he attaineth full strength and reacheth forty years, he saith: My Lord! Arouse me that I may give thanks for the favour wherewith Thou hast favoured me and my parents, and that I may do right acceptable unto Thee. And be gracious unto me in the matter of my seed. Lo! I have turned unto Thee repentant, and lo! I am of those who surrender (unto Thee).

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Deut 6:14-15 "Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you; (For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth."

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Rev 19:20 "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

No.

You should not become a mudslide.

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Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

I'm confused. You want to join a religion because a so-called holy book sounds appealing?

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

well, ifn ya want to burn in hell fer all eternity, then sure, be a Moose Limb.

ya aughta get right with Christ!

yic

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Ordinarily I affirm all people's religious choices, since all rivers lead to the ocean and since theological truths are something that we all have to work out for ourselves. Nonetheless, I draw the line at Islam, with its degrading treatment of women, since some things are just wrong.

Some things are just wrong...

And how would you know that? You casually assert your acceptance of the abomination that is other faiths and ask us to find any value in your point of view.

All rivers do not lead to the ocean - some lead to lakes and stagnant marshes - and even if they did that doesn't mean a thing in the context of Biblical Truth® which is unassailable.

So you'd go to Hell just so you can have a supply of Godless uppity harlots to fornicate with? How dreadful. Far better to have a True Christian™ wife who knows how to submit properly to her husband.
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Believe it or not, God may prefer that you convert to Is-lame:

Rev. 3:15-16: I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Since you won't be hot (True Christian™), you're better off as a mooselimb (cold) than as a liberal Christian space cadet (lukewarm), so that you won't end up in Christ's barf bag upon judgment.

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

So you want to become a terrorist? I think i'm going to report this to Homeland Security!

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

S-M:

If you convert to Islam, will you load up your undershorts with explosives and succeed only in, shall we say, giving yourself an "extreme circumcision"?

If so, please go ahead! :thumbsup:

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Yes, the whole idea of the Trinity is ludicrous. Indeed how can 3 be 1? You say: In the name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. But they are not 3 persons but 1? The Christian Catechism says that The Father is God, The Son is God and The Holy Ghost is God. But they are not three Gods but one God. The Father is a person, The Son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person. But they are not three persons but one person. What language is that? If 3 guys are identical triplets and one of them commits murder.. Can we hang one of the 2 others brothers? No they are different persons with different personalities. So the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost leave three distinct mental pictures ind your mind. They can never be one.


In Islam everyone pays for his or her own sins. Not the blood of Christ or animal offerings or anything else..


Please point me to the verse in the Quran that deals with stoning ?

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Why would anyone care one way or another what's in your fake moon god book?

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Could you please explain 'honor killings', then?

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And the crow calls the raven black..

Luke 1:1-4
1 Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, 3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, 4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.

Also the King James Bible has been revised many times. So calling it the word of God is quite erroneous. Imagine your Great great great great grandfather wrote a will. And your great great great grandfather made some changes in it. And again your great great grandfather made major changes. And your great great grandfather made major changes and your great grandfather made major changes and your grandfather made major changes and your father made major changes and you made major changes and yet you still insist that it is the original will of your great great great great grandfather.. Doesn´t add up.

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Can anyone make head nor tail of what this sand nigra is yammering on about. Obviously he's being a blasphemous heathen but beyond that it really is quite odd. Why would my great grandfather change the Bible?

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Your ignorance is astounding.

The King James is translated directly from the Textus Receptus. That is why we use it. The other perVersions out there are translated from the Latin Vulgate or its predecessor, the Alexandrian manuscripts -- which means that the Catholic Cult has had the opportunity to corrupt it with their perversions.

May I recommend this comic-book-style explanation?

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

That´s cultural. Has no roots in Islam.

Exodus 20:5

you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,

Leviticus 26:

18 ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

21 ‘Then, if you walk contrary to Me, and are not willing to obey Me, I will bring on you seven times more plagues, according to your sins.

24 then I also will walk contrary to you, and I will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

28 then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

In the Quran Allah tells us.

4:40

"Surely Allah does not do injustice to the weight of an atom, and if it is a good deed He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward."

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First published in 1611, and then revised in 1881 (RV), and now re-revised and brought up to date as the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952, and now again re-re-revised in 1971 (still RSV for short)

"THE KING JAMES VERSION (alternative description of AV) HAS WITH GOOD REASON BEEN TERMED 'THE NOBLEST MONUMENT OF ENGLISH PROSE.’ ITS REVISERS IN 1881 EXPRESSED ADMIRATION FOR 'ITS SIMPLICITY, ITS DIGNITY, ITS POWER, ITS HAPPY TURNS OF EXPRESSION ... THE MUSIC OF ITS CADENCES, AND THE FELICITIES OF ITS RHYTHM.’ IT ENTERED, AS NO OTHER BOOK HAS, INTO THE MAKING OF THE PERSONAL CHARACTER AND THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OF THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES. WE OWE TO IT AN INCALCULABLE DEBT."

"YET THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS GRAVE DEFECTS." And, "THAT THESE DEFECTS ARE SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS AS TO CALL FOR REVISION . . ." This is straight from the horse's mouth, i.e. the orthodox Christian scholars of "the highest eminence." Another galaxy of Doctors of Divinity are now required to produce an encyclopaedia explaining the cause of those GRAVE AND SERIOUS DEFECTS in their Holy Writ and their reasons for eliminating them.


2 Samuels 24

1 Again the anger of the Lord was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chronicles 21

1 Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.

Re: Should I become a Muslim?
 

Apparently, your idea of "many times" and mine are different. The English language has changed since 1611; the updates are done to reflect modern language.

I realize that's something Islamofascists know nothing about, what with the command not to add new words to your babble.

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As did Jesus in Revelations 22 verses 18 & 19 ?

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.