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Novatian 03-01-2013 09:26 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Compare the average Jewish IQ with the average Israeli IQ. 115 and 98.

Perhaps sensible people prefer to trust their senses over testimonies.

My IQ is 119.

Zechariah Smyth 03-01-2013 09:34 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Novatian (Post 982637)
Compare the average Jewish IQ with the average Israeli IQ. 115 and 98.

Perhaps sensible people prefer to trust their senses over testimonies.

My IQ is 119.

How about taking that super-brain of yours over to the Introduction Forum and starting a thread of your own. We'll see if you are smart enough to follow simple instructions.

Good luck!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Shimei 03-01-2013 09:45 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Does anyone know, I can't find which God he believes in, but America's highest IQ, Christopher Langan believes in God - 190 IQ.


BelieverInGod 03-01-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Novatian (Post 982637)
Compare the average Jewish IQ with the average Israeli IQ. 115 and 98.

Perhaps sensible people prefer to trust their senses over testimonies.

My IQ is 119.

Are we back to playing internet IQ again :)

Wow, so that means my internet IQ is now 300 :yahoo:

Great game. I started at 100 when I joined this board and add 10 points every time someone wants to compare IQ's.

BTW, I've had my IQ officially tested on 3 different occasions, I had a 40 point variable which basically came down to (IMO) how I was feeling that day. But according to the IQ people, that's impossible as there can only be a +/- 10 point spread.

How about working on your BQ (Bible Quotient) instead? :thumbsup:

MitzaLizalor 03-01-2013 10:58 PM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
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Originally Posted by BelieverInGod (Post 982756)
BTW, I've had my IQ officially tested on 3 different occasions, I had a 40 point variable which basically came down to (IMO) how I was feeling that day. But according to the IQ people, that's impossible as there can only be a +/- 10 point spread.

That's why they're better for large groups. "Will this group be able to achieve such&such a task?" for example. It's too difficult to ge a test that eliminates variables such as language or previous experience, say if you grew up on a cattle station you'd probably know all about cattle breeding and helicopter maintenance but nothing about supermarkets whereas if you grew up in France you'd think English was not even a language (just however people managed to communicate in grunts when they all spoke different languages such as Latin, Pict, Celt, Gael, Viking, Norman, Scot, Dane, Germanic Norse, and Orange to name but eleven) and know everything about poodle clipping.

So to level those two groups you'd need to have nothing written in English or French, and nothing relating to cattle breeding, helicopters or poodles. Which would eliminate quite a lot. There are progressive matrices but you might just as well throw a few colourblindness tests at them or monitor their responses to music, particularly music associated with the mass
:pope:
but then you'd just have a cohort of brainwashed hypnozombies who'd do whatever you told them so their IQ would be of no interest to anyone.


Ezekiel Bathfire 03-02-2013 12:03 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimei (Post 982642)
Does anyone know, I can't find which God he believes in, but America's highest IQ, Christopher Langan believes in God - 190 IQ.


I am not surprised! He is a little flaky as a Christian:

Mr Langan is a fellow of the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design (ISCID), a professional society which promotes intelligent design and as such, he enjoys a belief in God along with almost 7% of American intellectuals.:thumbsup:

However, even at his high level, he misuses these skills and is, in fact, a poor Christian. On his website, he blatantly states:
"since Biblical accounts of the genesis of our world and species are true but metaphorical,"

which is a lie, as the Whole Bible is true - why would God tell stories when He expects the Truth and is Truth? Why on earth (or in heaven) would God create a man and then not create him with intelligence to understand that truth that is KJV1611? Answer that!

Mr Langan also has a tendency to wander of into theories of his own making (somewhat like a false prophet) that certainly do not coincide with the Bible:
Quote:

They [human minds] are not as powerful as God's Mind, for they are only parts thereof; yet, they are directly connected to the greatest source of knowledge and power that exists. This connection of our minds to the Mind of God, which is like the connection of parts to a whole, is what we sometimes call the soul or spirit, and it is the most crucial and essential part of being human
Now, where in the Bible does God use them $20 words? Well, I'll tell you, "He doesn't"!

And why not? Well because God said, Ge:1:26a: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:" God did not mention brains, in fact the word brain does not occur in the Bible. The Bible is completely brain-less!

However, I hear you object, "What about Ge:3:22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and Ge:3:5: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

So here we see that the human brain is equal to that of a god.

This massive IQ does not guarantee Salvation - It is likely that, in some delinquent minds, it leads to over-thinking. This is quite possibly what has happened to Mr Langan, as his faith has wandered and often, to me, it sounds like his imagination is making things up!

James Hutchins 03-02-2013 12:42 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BelieverInGod (Post 982756)
Are we back to playing internet IQ again :)

Wow, so that means my internet IQ is now 300 :yahoo:

Great game. I started at 100 when I joined this board and add 10 points every time someone wants to compare IQ's.

BTW, I've had my IQ officially tested on 3 different occasions, I had a 40 point variable which basically came down to (IMO) how I was feeling that day. But according to the IQ people, that's impossible as there can only be a +/- 10 point spread.

How about working on your BQ (Bible Quotient) instead? :thumbsup:

I think the 119 is a euro 119, worth about 1/2 of an American one.

BelieverInGod 03-02-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 982787)
I think the 119 is a euro 119, worth about 1/2 of an American one.

Ah that explains things.

Also the liebral basis of the questions.

HE'S NOT MY PRESIDENT! :angry:

John Scopes 03-02-2013 10:44 PM

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It is really not about IQ at all.

It is strictly an issue with evolution of intelligent species, and Natural Selection™.

In my research over the years in this most sociologically very strange interesting place I have observed that overall the evangelical christians here (and possibly everywhere) seem to suffer at best cognitive dissonance.

Barry 03-03-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob the Angry Liar (Post 501078)
Muslim- 92
Christian- 98
Pagan- 98
Hindu- 104
Buddhist- 108
Jew- 115
Atheist- 119


It's much better than I expected. I thought I was in the low 70s.

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Originally Posted by John Scopes (Post 983010)
It is really not about IQ at all.

It is strictly an issue with evolution of intelligent species, and Natural Selection™.

In my research over the years in this most sociologically very strange interesting place I have observed that overall the evangelical christians here (and possibly everywhere) seem to suffer at best cognitive dissonance.

What a retarded post! I don't even understand half of those words. Trust a monkey worshiper to write a bunch of gibberish.

Didymus Much 03-03-2013 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Scopes (Post 983010)
...the evangelical christians here (and possibly everywhere) seem to suffer at best cognitive dissonance.

Suffer? :rofl3:

They rejoice in it.

MitzaLizalor 03-03-2013 06:33 AM

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Messrs Much & Scopes;

True Believers do not suffer cognitive impairment. Indeed Christians are the only group spared, by grace, such distressing afflictions.

False believers (satanists for example) face their upsidedown world with despair and uncertainty never knowing when they may offend the zeitgeist, becoming ostracised, wretched and forlorn. It changes as the writhing ocean, stormtossed, disconsolate.

You can keep your cruel ocean.

Christians choose the gentle sea of faith.

Novatian 03-03-2013 11:49 AM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth (Post 982638)
How about taking that super-brain of yours over to the Introduction Forum and starting a thread of your own. We'll see if you are smart enough to follow simple instructions.

Good luck!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Alright, as a result of my post the moderator has found fault with me. So, I point out that the Jewish average of 115 and the Jewish nation average of 98 causes one to question how this could be. I suggest it is inaccurate or misleading.

And some people are very sense based, looking listening... not sensuous but sensible, I suppose they prefer to stop believing passed what is perceptible, proud of their sentient perception. Pride issue. Sense proud.

Just trying to figure out how the results came out. And trying to read into them.

Nontheist 06-10-2013 04:01 PM

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This is amazing. I cannot stop laughing and I still think there is a goodchance that most of the posts are faked. Are people here really thatracist and bigoted? Either way this is too funny.

James Hutchins 06-10-2013 04:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nontheist (Post 1008043)
This is amazing. I cannot stop laughing and I still think there is a goodchance that most of the posts are faked. Are people here really thatracist and bigoted? Either way this is too funny.

[Sarcasm On] I am glad you think stupidity is something to laugh at [/Sarcasm Off]
Friend, even a person like you that hates God, does not have to be cruel to retards. They, like you, have made very poor choices in life. Must you rub it in?:thumbdown:

Des 06-10-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James Hutchins (Post 1008049)
Friend, even a person like you that hates God, does not have to be cruel to retards. They, like you, have made very poor choices in life. Must you rub it in?:thumbdown:

The retards brought it on themselves for incurring the Divine and Just Wraith of Our Lord God.

Deut 28: 28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

Glory onto Him. :innocent:

IdiocyofMYUniverse 06-10-2013 05:25 PM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
We don't need religion to be loving. There is nothing wrong with us. The Christians that call us evil are going against their own beliefs. Anyway, if you are right in the end, you all will be in Hell with the rest of us for eternity. Most turn to God with expectation of reward, or fear of punishment. That is not a reason to turn to a belief, and you are pathetic for it. The reason Americans shun atheists is because there are incorrect and damaging stereotypes about us perpetuated in the media and in your churches.

Pastor Isaac Peters 06-10-2013 05:27 PM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nontheist (Post 1008043)
This is amazing. I cannot stop laughing and I still think there is a goodchance that most of the posts are faked. Are people here really thatracist and bigoted? Either way this is too funny.

We do attract a lot of unsaved trolltards who come here to mock us (Matt. 5:11-12), but rest assured, dear friend, that all posts by True Christians™ are as real as Christ's love.

Des 06-10-2013 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IdiocyofMYUniverse (Post 1008067)
We don't need religion to be loving. There is nothing wrong with us. The Christians that call us evil are going against their own beliefs. Anyway, if you are right in the end, you all will be in Hell with the rest of us for eternity. Most turn to God with expectation of reward, or fear of punishment. That is not a reason to turn to a belief, and you are pathetic for it. The reason Americans shun atheists is because there are incorrect and damaging stereotypes about us perpetuated in the media and in your churches.

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

So the Lord gave us a clear-cut picture of what baby eating, anal raping atheists are. We shun you because anyone with any sense shuns a rabid dog.

Glory onto Him. :innocent:

Irinka the repentant jewess 06-10-2013 05:57 PM

Re: Harvard study - average IQ by religion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nontheist (Post 1008043)
This is amazing. I cannot stop laughing and I still think there is a goodchance that most of the posts are faked. Are people here really thatracist and bigoted? Either way this is too funny.

What exactly did you find so funny? What is NOT funny is that people who do not know Jesus and do not receive His gift of salvation are headed to hell and will spend eternity being separated from their Creator and loving Father God.


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