Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
Alright, so I'm new here and forgive me if I seem a little ignorant but I have a question. I've always tried to live my life in a manner similar to the life Jesus lead when he was here on earth. Of course I fall short, but I still try and with his help I feel I grow and do a little better everyday. I've looked over a lot of these posts and there's a lot of talk about shunning nonbelievers. In my life I've tried very hard to answer the call Jesus put forth to his disciples in Matthew 4:18-25
18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. 19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. 20 And they straightway left their nets, and followed him. 21 And going on from thence, he saw other two brethren, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their father, mending their nets; and he called them. 22 And they immediately left the ship and their father, and followed him. 23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. 24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. 25 And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan. Now obviously I can't heal and I don't have multitudes following me but I do my best to help those in need when I can and spread the gospel to those who need even if they're nonbelievers who reject Jesus. Just like Jesus did in Matthew 9:9-15 9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him. 10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples. 11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? 12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. 13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Is my understanding of this passage wrong? It seems to me that Jesus came to save those were unsaved. He ate with sinners and spent time with them. Was that just something special Jesus did that we are not suppose to? Thank you for your time and responses, I really appreciate the help. |
Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
Dear Heathen;
Jesus offers us all the gift of Salvation, but that doesn't mean that everyone receives that gift. Yes, Jesus temporarily suffered and died on the cross for my sins, but that gift is offered conditionally. Take this famous verse, for existence. Jesus DID NOT die for everyone. He died for those that BELIEVE. Quote:
Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus. And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself. :rtfm: I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire. :sinner: YIC, -Pastor Ezekiel |
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JOHN [Jesus speaking] The passage covers both your points. It is through prayer that God, by the Power of the Holy Spirit, heals the sick. If someone doesn't recover, either the prayer was not addressed to God, or it was not made in faith. James 5 - LINK to earlier post Similarly, it is The Holy Spirit who convinces the sinner of sin, see verse 8 above. You mentioned that you “spread the gospel to those who need even if they're nonbelievers” which is puzzling me. Why would you spread The Gospel to people who were already believers? It is only nonbelievers who need to hear The Good News of Salvation. Everyone else is already saved. What would be the point of that? OK, most people do reject Jesus. Satan offers them a value free lifestyle with wall-to-wall booze, pimps, sex orgies, random murder, psychedelic toads, Frenchwomen, witchdoctors, heathenism and communists and they jump at the opportunity. As we know these fools do accept that there is a God but pretend to be atheists, Zoroastrians, animists, Presbyterians, psychotic delusionals, new age sex gurus and other demoniacs of the type so that they may sin. If they had never heard, that would be one thing. Having heard—but rejected Jesus—is another. So we have an obligation to witness to those wretches. That doesn't mean we should associate with them. We must not, as has been explained in the posts you will have read concerning shunning, with full supporting Scripture. Quote:
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Re: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?
You have completely misrepresented what this parable has meant to Christians for almost 2,000 years.
Christ was illustrating that men who should have been neighbors weren't, but the man who should have been an enemy was the true neighbor. Like the Samaritan, we are called to be a neighbor to all men, because God created us all in His image. He sees Himself in all of us, So, we, too, must see God in EVERYONE else. |
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We follow the Word of God, not sassy-mouthed know-it-alls from the internet. Thanks for your attention to this matter. Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. |
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LEVITICUS 19 Notice how in Leviticus the distinction is made again: nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. If retribution were not to be taken against anyone at all, why specify the children of thy people? Are you suggesting that the Amalekites were included in that? Sure, they lived next door but they were not neighbours. Or Jericho? Or Ai? All wiped out to the last baby. Such historical events, recorded in the same Bible, endorsed by the same God, described using the same language as Jesus used, do not support your position. Where are you getting your information about God? .An early encounter with the Amalekites ..The annihilation of Jericho ...Ai blasted ....Mark 12 .....Leviticus 19 |
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I enjoyed reading this, thank-you.
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Thanks for this blessed teaching. |
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How do you reconcile this with Matt 5:43-48, where we are clearly told to show love and do good to the just and unjust, good and evil?
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The greatest Love one can show is the Love that does the greatest good to people. The greatest good imaginable is to Live forever in Joy in Heaven with Jesus. We show the sinners how this is possible. Sinners resist the Good Message of Jesus very forcefully and often the message irritates them. There are many things that make people fail the entrance examination to Eternal Life with Jesus. Some examples are as follows: 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Now, it would be false teaching to tell these people, such as the effeminate, that they are OK and no matter what, a place in Heaven is guaranteed. That would be hating them. Instead, we love them enough to show them the True™ but exhausting path to Salvation. Jesus rejects them if they reject Him (John 3:18). We love them and want what is best for them. They don't have to LIKE it. The Truth™ can be painful. Yours in Christ, Elmer :bye: |
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They want you to introduce yourself in the introduction section. That is only polite and these Baptists are very polite. Jah Guide Trevor |
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Before you start flapping your unsaved pie hole around these godly pages, kindly take a look at THIS world-famous sermon from one of our most beloved True Christian™ Pastors. :rtfm: YIC, Pastor Ezekiel |
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