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True Disciple 04-06-2010 11:43 PM

Conspiracy EXPOSED: Harry Potter and the Church of Satan!
 
Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

Recently, new concerns about the Harry Potter series have risen among concerned True Christian™ Parents. Therefore, we investigated the alleged ties the books had with Satanism, to come to the shocking conclusion:

Harry Potter promotes all cardinal values espoused by the Church of Satan!:devil:

Clearly, there is a conspiracy going on. Harry Potter is once again exposed as the primary tool of Satan to seduce the minds of teenagers into witchcraft and godless, Satanist philosophies!

I will treat all nine “satanic commandments” as described by the founder of the Church of Satan, a demon known as Anton LaVey: Very evil link! (WARNING: Do NOT click on this link unless you are an adult male in possession of an official declaration of True Christianity™ signed by one of the Pastors).

For each of them, I will explain how the Harry Potter series attempts to infuse the impressionable young minds of teenagers with these philosophies.:vampire:

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1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!


The first commandment returns in virtually every novel, as the main characters like to engage in hedonistic orgies whenever there is an excuse for a party, usually when Harry Potter killed his enemies, when a pagan holiday, like Halloween or Valentine’s Day, is celebrated, or when they’ve come out victorious after a “quidditch” match (which is a rough sport played with broomsticks, in which both boys and girls participate equally I’ll leave it at that.). This can be found several times in virtually every novel.:thumbdown:

Additionally, a “Yule Ball” is held in the fourth novel, which, besides celebrating yet another pagan festival, describes Harry and his classmates consuming large quantities of alcohol, despite the fact that they are all minors, and consequently boys and girls retreating in bushes at school grounds. Harry and his friends aren’t exactly proper role models for True Christian™ teenagers.:bad:

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2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!


This means that Satanists value “reality” over “fantasies,” with which they mean, of course, the Bible. In practice, this means they adapt to reality as it is now, instead of following the Word of God penned down by a multitude of Divinely Inspired Nomads just a few thousands of years ago, like the Bible commands. Satanism teaches to disbelieve in God, and only to believe in visible “reality.”:firedevil:

The Harry Potter novels support this ideology as well. Religion never plays a role in the novels, and never is Harry Potter saying grace for meals. The only time religion is introduced, in the final part, it is represented as silly and unrealistic. Never is the existence of God even implied in the novels, it is all about things the characters can see and experience directly. In short, the second commandment of Satan is supported by the novels as well.

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3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!


Satanists want you to be a anti-authoritarian smartass, clearly underlining its bonds with atheism with this commandment.

Harry Potter is the ideal posterboy for this commandment. He never accepts anything other people say, and likes to disagree with his teachers. He also directly opposes the authorities from the fifth novel on, further exposing the satanic communist agenda behind the novels.:angry:

Also, in the books it is directly implied that it is good to disobey your teachers, as he is always late with his homework and regularly cheats in class, like when asked to produce an anti-venom in the sixth novel, and gets rewarded for that. Also, he always breaks school rules in attempts to discover things he isn’t supposed to know. Typical satanist behaviour.

For good comparison: a True Christian™ does not ask questions, he obeys the Bible. This is a very significant difference between True Christianity™ and the satanic ideologies of Harry Potter.:worthy:

Three commandments treated so far and Harry obeys them all. Reasonable people will have abandoned their scepticism by now, but for the unreasonable people, I will continue:

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4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!


This commandment is clear when you consider the role of the headmaster, Dumbledore, the archetypal old wise person in the books, who happens, surprise, surprise, to be a flaming homosexual as well.:diablo:

In the novels, Dumbledore, like a true catholic priest, regularly invites Harry to his office for “private lessons,” clearly preferring him over the other students. Also, Harry shows vitriolic haterd towards one of his teachers, Professor Snape. I will return to that point with the next commandment:

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5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!


Harry never turns the other cheek in the novels, but every time he is attacked, he retaliates. Nowhere in the novels he forgives one of his enemies, like a True Christian™ would do, and his hate for Snape, one of his teachers, is so venomous at the end of part six that it almost eats away the pages it is written on. Likewise, in part four, he dreams of torturing his teacher. Harry himself also uses a torturing curse on several of his enemies, and progressively becomes more adept at that. Hardly a sentiment a True Christian™ Parent would like to see in his or her teenage child, I would say.

In short, Harry Potter books teach teenagers to torture and persecute their enemies, and to put them under evil, demonic spells.

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6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!


“Concern for psychic vampires” here means compassion with people who are deemed “annoying.” According to Satanism, people should disregard these people, and rule them with an iron fist.

In the Harry Potter novels, the annoying people are always treated badly by Harry and his friends. For example, a boy named Zacharias Smith joins an illegal teenage gang which is founded by Harry in the fifth novel, and when he annoys people, they bewitch him when he is not looking. In the same novel, they openly rebel against the authorities, who are portrayed as dumb, annoying people, typical “psychic vampires.” Harry Potter and his friends attempt to overthrow these autorities. This “strong-rule-the-weak” ideology is likely to inspire several school shootings, in my opinion.:death:

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7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!


This commandment, inspired by the evil philosophy of evolution, is espoused by the novels in the form of creatures who are part animal, part human, humanoid creatures which either have lower intelligence than regular humans or are like animals, and humans who turn into animals. These kinds of stories are utterly demonic, except when they occur in the book of Revelation, of course.:thumbdown:

There is even mention of a person who can turn into a rat and uses this ability to sleep together with a young teenage boy. Who needs any more proof of the satanic nature of Harry Potter than that?:furious:

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8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!


Harry Potter commits most of the sins the Bible forbids, and is rewarded for it in many cases. For example, he steals ingredients for a potion from his teacher, and is rewarded with a working potion, while the Bible clearly condemns stealing (Exodus 20:15). Also, he regularly lies to his teachers about his illegal activities, and always gets away, while lying is a sin according to Leviticus 19:11. Additionally, he lusts after the girlfriend of another boy in the fourth novel, and again in the sixth novel, while this is adultery according to Matthew 5:28.:rtfm:

Harry Potter is the epitome of sin, in short.

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9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!


The novels do not say anything about this, but it is a rather dumb commandment anyway, as it doesn’t command anything. Satanists can be pretty stupid. Therefore, we can leave this one be.

The results of this short research will be handed out to all Freehold residents. Pastor Deacon Fred has issued that all people are to hand over their Harry Potter books for the upcoming book burning. We must burn the evil works of Satan!:thumbsup:

Yours In Christ,

True Disciple

Firebird13 04-08-2010 02:28 AM

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Actually, none of these are commandments. They are the 9 Satanic Statements which tells of the mindset of the satanist. Either you have this mindset or you don't. Really they couldn't care either way. As to how they partain to Harry Potter, I can't help you there. Personally, I can't stand it.

True Disciple 04-09-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebird13 (Post 501711)
Actually, none of these are commandments. They are the 9 Satanic Statements which tells of the mindset of the satanist. Either you have this mindset or you don't. Really they couldn't care either way. As to how they partain to Harry Potter, I can't help you there. Personally, I can't stand it.

And in what way would this invalidate our conclusions that Harry Potter is a brainchild of satanism?:wacko:

zorkotadej23 07-02-2010 07:47 PM

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Ohhhhh Pleeeease Get A Life!!!!! First of all Satan and witchcraft? REALLY?
You, presumably a grown up, still believe in those fairytalles?
No comment!

I find it funny that these books are being considered so horrible and dangerous, but the bible is a million times worse with stories of torture, betrayal, lies, death, and, to be funny, zombies, but Christians are so happy to accept that... Taking their children to see the Passion of the Christ, sick!

I never understood the arguments against Harry Potter from people who tout CS Lewis as a perfect example for their beliefs. Devout Christian or not, people have to understand not only that this is a work of fiction, but that "witches" are analogues for conveying the author's ideas - in this case about social justice.

And since we have to look at THAT instead of the surface - you'll realize there is one theme through the series:
love, bravery and altruism will always defeat evil.
Harry potter is a real character in a book.
jesus and satan are real characters in a book.

If Harry Potter's so evil...then what does that make Voldemort???? Oh thats right you dont know who that is because you didnt read the books!
if you've read the books, harry has, yes, broken rules, BUT he HAS BEEN PUNISHED FOR THEM BY HIS TEACHERS! besides potion making? where would we find any ingredients? you tell me (screaming mandrakes, dragon blood etc.)! Spells? How are we going to do them? I'm sorry but you have judged before you have even tried... i thought you would at least attempt to read the books first, its just a fantasy like Cinderella or Snow White! but you probably don't care that someone just wants some modern literature! :angry:
You haven't read the books. Ergo, you have no idea what youre talking about. Argument from ignorance is ignorant.

You talk about how Harry cheats, lies and steals and you say children are learning to do the same things just because Harry does them. So you and every child in the world are perfect and no Christian lies apparently. Of course Harry lies, we ALL do. Harry has flaws and thats what makes his character so appealing. No person or child is perfect!

Read Leviticus, you will all be surprised by all of the homicide and that pedophiles get away with everything in Leviticus. I agree with you on one point Harry Potter is real, none of it's real. People need to grow up and finally realize that Harry Potter is not going to mind warp anybody.

If people would stop convoluting the story and taking things out of context, they would see that this series is in fact mirror what our society is today. The only difference is that in the story there is a happily ever after, whereas people like you and other illiterate idiots make it impossible for us to progress.

By the way isnt America supposed to be a place where people have freedom to be who they are, whether they be Gay, Black, Jewish, Muslim, democrat, or republican? how the hell are gay people destroying America? are they planning to bomb pearl harbor, or commit genocide? no, i didn't think so.

Yes, God only has GOOD intentions for us, which is why he tells us to stone anyone who doesn't follow him; and encourages war, genocide, murder, infanticide, etc. (CRUSADERS ANYONE) Seriously, God isn't that great a person. Read the bible!!

I can't beleave there are people in an mordern contry who still beleave in the bible and god, here is is an minoity, and moust of them are imigrants, Harry Potter is an great fantasy book, promoting love and friendship, not as the bible promoting obedience and fear.

I gotta say, I think you're wrong. HP is one of the best selling books about magic. Think about it, MAGIC! It's like the bible...but it actually has some moral fiber!

Lol, Americans READ? No, wait, sorry. CHRISTIAN FUNDEMENTALIST Americans READ?! Lol! That would be free thinking, and that's a big no-no.

Levi Jones 07-02-2010 08:37 PM

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You haven't read the books. Ergo, you have no idea what youre talking about. Argument from ignorance is ignorant.

I'm the Youth Pastor. Of course I had to read the books.

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No person or child is perfect!

That's an outright lie. Read my sermon on why True Christians are Perfect.

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Read Leviticus, you will all be surprised by all of the homicide and that pedophiles get away with everything in Leviticus.

Pedophilia in Leviticus? Chapter and verse please.

Speaking of Leviticus.

Leviticus 19:26, 31 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.


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Originally Posted by zorkotadej23 (Post 550538)
Lol, Americans READ? No, wait, sorry. CHRISTIAN FUNDEMENTALIST Americans READ?! Lol! That would be free thinking, and that's a big no-no.

Speaking of, You should read Brother D's sermon on why God HATES Rational Thinking.

BelieverInGod 07-02-2010 08:40 PM

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I'm not going to post to the satanic link, but when I typed witchcraft into Amazon I got over 11,000 books. None of the most popular ones had anything to do with Christianity. So if there's obviously a non-Christian market.

Satanism brings up 1,600 titles, again, non-Christian market.

But you're right, we're fools for believing these people exist :rolleyes: Obviously so is Amazon, printing books that nobody is buying.

Nathaniel Abernathy 07-03-2010 07:17 AM

I once caught my son with a Harry Potter book. It went STRAIGHT in to the fire place, and he got a good beating. Did you know that if you put an orange in to a pillow case, that it won't leave any kind of mark? Just make sure not to put two in to the pillow case... the kid might turn out to be a homo.

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 08:55 AM

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Mr. Levy Jones
im not gonna comment on THAT because you are clearly an ignorant, opressing blind man and i wont even argue with the likes of you!
:thumbdown:

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 09:03 AM

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Sorry its Levi
my bad:lol:

btw just curious

if harry potter is evil then what is Voldemort, the main bad guy in the books who wishes to enslave all the non-magical people and harry stops him and saves the world?

And wasnt Jesus a wizard of some kind too?

So Harry Potter is just like Jesus in some MODERN way!


Kids need heroes so they can look up to them!

Cranky Old Man 07-03-2010 10:15 AM

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if harry potter is evil then what is Voldemort, the main bad guy in the books who wishes to enslave all the non-magical people

Voldemort is almost as evil as Harry Potter. At least Voldemort is recognizable as evil, unlike Harry Potter who is evil in disguise which is much worse!

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Kids need heroes so they can look up to them!
Give them a Bible and explain to them Jesus is all the hero they will ever need!

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 11:01 AM

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haha then why did harry saved the world from him raised his own family and lived peacefully ever after??:wacko:

Hahaha, jeez these people take things way too out of hand. Those poor children will never know they're missing out on something that is actually a pretty good guide, well in my opinion, to things that happen to life( love, friendship, forgiveness...)!

if i would be american i would be ashamed of the state this nation is in!
thankfully im not (im slovenian and here in europe were way smarter than that and more open minded, we see things that happen around us) so i can just laugh out loud!:lol:

No hard feelings, but are you gonna believe Prince of Persia The Sand of Time is real?

Either you are brainwashed, or brainwashing..... im guessing a little bit of both.

You people are just like the people who nailed Jesus to the cross--empty-headed, narrow-minded religious fanatics who actually give religion a bad name.

It's no wonder that young people are turning away from religion, when they are subjected to such hogwash.

Felicity 07-03-2010 11:04 AM

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@zorkotadej23 I am glad my father does not allow me to read Harry Potter. :fear2:

I think the Holy Bible is an excellent guide! :innocent:

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 11:10 AM

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Thank evolution for free thinking people of this world that are capable of your own thoughts. Christians et. all Religious groups are batshit crazy, delusional idiots who blindly follow a book that says the earth is flat, 6000 years old, is the center of the universe and says slavery, rape, murder, and torture are acceptable in certain circumstances. Santa Clause is more believable than some random idiot that just decides to create the world out of nothing. Talk about a bunch of mormons. :thumbdown:

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 11:15 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1...eature=related

please watch this video and tell me what you think
and please watch the video to the end, grant me at least that one wish:thumbsup:


At least not all americans are lost

Levi Jones 07-03-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zorkotadej23 (Post 550883)
Sorry its Levi
my bad:lol:

btw just curious

if harry potter is evil then what is Voldemort, the main bad guy in the books who wishes to enslave all the non-magical people and harry stops him and saves the world?

I believe Voldemort is a character in a blasphemous novel.

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Originally Posted by zorkotadej23 (Post 550883)
And wasnt Jesus a wizard of some kind too?

Of course not! Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. He is also God as well as being His Son. When combined with the Holy Spirit they combine to form a super God who is all one but separate. It's very monotheistic, you see.

How dare you cheapen Jesus' turning water into wine like it's some magicians parlor trick!
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Originally Posted by zorkotadej23 (Post 550883)
So Harry Potter is just like Jesus in some MODERN way!

Vile blasphemer! Are you some sort of Harry Potter worshiper?

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 01:25 PM

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of course im not his worshiper, why would i worship a real character,
but i do like reading books such as harry potter --- fantasy novels (lord of the rings, artemis fowl, eragon,.....)

you, on the other hand, read a book worship a character(s) in it.

who is more rational here?

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 01:30 PM

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sorry i got a typing error
i meant to say why would i worshipp a real character

my bad:wacko:

Cranky Old Man 07-03-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zorkotadej23 (Post 550940)
sorry i got a typing error i meant to say why would i worshipp a real character my bad:wacko:

No problem, we stopped paying attention the same moment you started posting.

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 01:41 PM

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Again i got a typing error

i guess my keyboard is from satan or something:thumbdown:


Anyway i can see there is no reasoning with you guys.

i just hope that you are a minority because frankly i would hate to se if you guys got hold on some nuclear stockpile or something, because then it truly would be the end of the world, but not from satan or jesus or anyone but from sick and stupid ----- like you!:lex_12::fear2:

zorkotadej23 07-03-2010 01:46 PM

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oh and when i said ''why would i worship a real character'' i meant to say real (i know hes not real! I HOPE YOU DO TO) :sarcasm:


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