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One of the most common criticisms of True Christianity™ by hellbound trash is that we True Christians™ aren't tolerant. Phony-baloney liberal "Christians" seem to be under the delusion that the Bible commands tolerance. If they actually pulled the shrink wrap off of their Bibles, they would know that the exact opposite is true.
Here is what both the Old and New Testaments say about tolerance for sin: Ezekiel 33:8-9: When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. Revelation 2:1-6: Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have [somewhat] against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. These Scripture passages do speak of tolerance, but they don't exactly identify it as a virtue, do they? Yes, there is a place for Christian love. But keep in mind that true Christian love does not tolerate sin, but instead motivates us to lead people away from it: Galatians 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. James 5:19-20: Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. Finally, some hippy-dippy liberal "Christians" say that the New Testament calls us to be more tolerant than the Old Testament did. Then let them explain this: Acts 17:30-31: And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead. |
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Well your NOT really toleratant, MSTT love!! In fact, most are INtolerant and overflowing with SELF RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS and ASSumptions!! Someone comes here and you people immediately jump on them and begin making all sorts of UNFOUNDED ASSumptions calling them, usually, HOMERS. I must say, love, I've never been in the midst of soooo many HOMOPHOBIC people. Perhaps, love, if true xtians were a BIT MORE tolerant without the ASSuming and judgements things MIGHT go a bit better for EVERYONE involved. What do you think MSTT love?
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You're boring and witless, and on the verge of an infraction for so being. Really. :thumbdown: |
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Twink you are the epitemy of abomination! You are SIN incarnate! God is not intolerant and neither are we as True Christians. As posted previously, God in the form of JESUS died for your sins so his WRATH would be averted and you had better thank JESUS for that because otherwise you (and everyone like you) would be feeling the WRATH OF THE LORD right now!
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Now, can someone please actually respond to the intent of his post instead of simply side-stepping the issue and attacking him? |
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Your passages neither condone tolerance nor prohibit it. Therefore, I choose tolerance. Tolerance does NOT mean that you don't warn others. It simply means I won't demand that you do things my way to get the same results. Hey, if it works, it works. Who cares how you get there?
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Joshjg, your topic has been moved to its own thread, here.
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not to sound like im whining or anything but i dont think that i have been shown any tolerance since ive been on this site. Im Pagan and I know how christians feel about other religions but you are supposed to hate the actions not the person right?
I came here to try to find my way back to God but all you people do is call me gay (when im not) yell saying that im going to hell(i know this calm down a bit) and make me feel unwelcome and that there is no chance of Jesus Christ ever accepting me. |
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And you ARE whining. |
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"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11 Don't come in here trying to cram your personal brand of satan worship down our throats. If you truly want to find out about Jesus, then start by reading the Holy Bible and the many threads on this Godly forum, and stop whining like a sissyboy. |
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I can't say that people are tolerant here (besides Zeke, he seems to be a rare case so this is not directed at you), but I do have some advice to stop the ongoing constant accusations that people here are known as "Christian Extremists":
- Don't judge people until you actually understand where they are coming from, thinking you do know is different to asking if you have it right. - Knowing other religions beliefs, reading their "version" of a bible/Qu'ran is a start. It may even enlighten you and help you better understand your own. Even say, "Wow, this is directly parallel to my bible" - People are not "unsaved trash" this is rude and is a very negative put-down to call someone hence why alot of people are negative towards you all, too my first point, it is not your place to judge. Jesus will do that so nothing needs to be said. Leave it to the man in charge. - No one is more important than anyone else. In the large scheme of it. We are all insignificant earthlings with our own morals and beliefs. Asians, Europeans, Australians, Africans, Canadian, Americans we are all the same. Thinking your above anyone is discusting. I can tell you right now that if one of you did, sure there will be upset people, but to most people... who are you. If America suddenly combusted, Im sorry to say but 99 percent of other countries will be cheering rather than crying. Lastly.... What is a religion? Religion is your OWN PERSONAL beliefs. Whether it is believing in a God or multiple. I don't see know one person can be so ignorant to think that there are no other possibilities in the world. Christianity, Anglican, Catholic, Muslim. All it is is categorising beliefs. The sign of a strong person is not one that follows the flock, but one that listens different views and makes up their own mind. I personally think that many people here need to grow a spine. Banning me or giving me an infraction to this is just proving my point. Just remember, it is better to attract people to your religion than turn them off and about now I am tempted to run |
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PRAISE JESUS :jesus: |
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Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif Please stop flirting with the Good Pastor :angry: Are you jealous? Do you know jealousy is a sin, you should be more concerned with your faith and morals right now. What goes on between myself and Zeke is none of your business. Quote: Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif We aren't here to agree with other people of false Religion. We are here to Save them from Eternal Damnation. Of course your not, aren't you worried about your own narrowed mindedness? I personally think your in a rut, maybe you should try and expand your beliefs. Quote: Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif This is merely a label to sort the "Wheat from the Chaff". It's no good being uppitty!! We are all guests in God's favorite Forum. You will abide by our Terms and conditions and like it. Maybe, sometime in your life you should accept advice from other people. I always though constructive critism is helpful. Quote: Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif That's true but as it stands, we are the True believers in Christ and the chosen one's. I can assure you that you aren't. Did Christ himself come up to you have you a certificate for being a chosen one? I doubt it. Does he speak to you? Do you have schizophenia? Quote: Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif Let them cheer. It'll be short-lived. When Jesus returns to Kill them all we shall be the one's looking down from Heaven and cheering. I don't know how you can say this, didn't you know that "America" DID NOT exsist for hundreds of years after Christ? Ego is a sin and America is insignificate. Quote: Originally Posted by Sister Jealous http://www.landoverbaptist.net/image...s/viewpost.gif Religion is a 100% Faith in Jesus Christ. No other God/Savior will do. As a True Christian™ having belief in the words of the only TRUE Bible (KJV) I can only warn others of the terrible mistake of Worshiping False Idols and Monkeys. If you actually read what I have written. Learn before you judge. |
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I have no need to be a Sister Jealous. I am fully aware that Pastor Ezekiel is already betrothed to Sister Thumper. As a Moderator I have to watch over him whilst Sister Thumper's back is turned.
Your "Constructive criticism" is noted but I'm afraid my devotion to This Church, Jesus Christ and the ONLY one True Bible goes much further than the petty points you made in your last Post. It's about time you stopped fighting against us. Jesus guided you here for a reason. I suggest you open your eyes and look beyond YOUR idea of The Truth. |
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Im sure Zeke is a big boy who can look after himself and rabbit should have to rely on others to protect her relationship if it was so strong.
I am aware of the extent of YOUR Bible as I AM a Baptist. But i'd like to consider myself broadminded who knows the world. Well, I tried, the honest truth always does lie on deaf ears of the extremists. No ones fighting here Sister Zeke Protector, nothing wrong with some enlightening debates. FOR THE RECORD Some of my bestfriends are men who get down and dirty with other men. To be honest they are much better people than people here. Oh and short skirts rock! |
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Being a Baptist IS extreme. Being a Baptist is about believing in The Bible AS IT WAS WRITTEN. Not some softened-up Liberal minded version where things are changed around to suit "Feel-good Christians". I should be careful about wearing short skirts Caitlin; Your slip is showing............. or was it your parents during your conception? |
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So you admitt your an extremist?
There are places for people like you available in Afghanistan. |
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I'm sorry, I'm trying very hard to be patient here, but it's extremely difficult when you say things like this. It just baffles me that someone could be so... I mean, isn't humility one of the major themes of Christianity? Isn't love? And yet, here you sit, acting like God himself came to you in the night and told you all the secrets of the universe, every single thing people are supposed to do, never once willing to admit that maybe you were wrong. All you have to go on is faith, and that's exactly what the rest of us have. It's really hard to understand why you can't have a mature discussion with anyone on this site. You do realize, of course, that nobody ever actually debates these topics; you instead focus on simple typos or hide behind lazy attempts at insults. How are you supposed to follow God's word if all you do is tell people, while masquerading patience, that you're the only one who's ever going to be right? Don't you realize how many people like you there are in this world, of different denominations? What if a Presbyterian, or a Catholic, or a Wisconsin Lutheran came up to you and told you every single thing that you believe is wrong, and you're going to hell because you don't believe everything they do? It hurts, doesn't it? How can something that causes so much pain and enmity and negativity in the world, something that's the root cause of so many international wars and otherwise unprovoked murders "in the name of God," result in something good for the rest of the world? Isn't that what we're supposed to do as Christians, do good things for the world? Maybe you believe you are if you tell people your version of the truth. Well, what if God doesn't even care about the details? What if God only wants us to believe in Him and give what we can of ourselves to make the world a better place for our fellow creatures? Then all the good ones would go to heaven, and you'll have wasted valuable time that could be spent cleaning up the environment or helping a woman who's been victimized by extremist Christians who believe her spiritually equivalent to Lucifer himself, by the sounds of some of these people. What's worse, you'll have wasted it starting fights. God doesn't hate much, but one thing He can't stand is two people He loves to death fighting. That's happening all over the world. He loves us all, and we're causing Him pain by fighting all the time. What if you had two children and they started beating each other up over something stupid they were each both right and wrong about, but they couldn't resolve in time because they never gave each other the chance to talk it out? Wouldn't it tear you apart, to watch them kill each other rather than compromise and grow closer as siblings? Just imagine that. You don't want to do that to God. I'm begging you, live and let live. If they believe the wrong thing, they'll find their way. The truth means nothing if you don't discover it for yourself. Didn't the man who caught the Ark of the Covenant die because he touched it, rather than leaving its rescue in the hands of God? There's a lesson in that. God still loves them. God will show them the way. It's okay for it to be out of your hands. I assure you, God is more than capable of handling it. |
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We know our God because He has revealed Himself through Scripture. How do you know your god, or did you just make him up one morning? |
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We don't have to worry about any of those "what if" questions, because we know what God is like because God tells him about Himself in the Bible. If you think God is against war, then you simply haven't read the Bible. God LOVES war! Exod 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. Why don't you take the time to read the books of Numbers, Joshua, and Judges, and then come back and tell us that God doesn't like war, pillage, rape, and killing. Those are the most action packed books in the Bible. I'd love to see the Kendrick Brothers put out a big movie trilogy based on those books. Quote:
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Shouldn't you try to spread his word and not banish those who do not? |
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Praise Jesus! :thumbsup: |
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You people just crack me up. Wow, it must be easy to trick a Christian?
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Who are you? And what are you doing here? You have not filled in your profile and have not posted a proper introduction of yourself. You first post is just Needless Dickery™ and clearly shows that you are Unsaved Trash. |
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The bible surely does NOT promote intolerance. In fact...
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you (Matthew 7:12).” That seems to say that you in fact should NOT judge people, correct? Which is tolerance, correct? In the bible, the LORD says that it is not our place to judge, in multiple places! |
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12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Which is an old testament quotation. Maybe you mean Matthew 7:1-2... If so, you have won the award for the one millionth person to quote Matthew 7 out of context... Jesus is speaking of hypocritical judgment here, not judging anything or anyone. 3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Jesus ends it with a warning not to give out Salvation to people who will merely try to take it to their own advantage. 6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. |
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