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Where did you get the idea that we were engaged in debate? This is a Christian forum and we are here to praise God and His Son Jesus. If you wish to sharpen your debate skills may I recommend debate.org?

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You are right to ask. The Map is to aid others. You have obviously recognized all the countires and people about whom you were curious and thus the map has proven its worth.

There is some error here. I am in charge of the Biblical approach to Tolerance and Diveristy. i.e. God's idea of these satanic attributes.

God is opposed to Tolerance and Diversity as is clearly shown in the 10 commandments.

He, and thus we, must not tolerate people having diverse ideas on how to follow His Word.

In the instance of the map, God created the races and God created our language. Is it thus unholy to express His Works in God Given American?

There seemed to be some intolerance in your post - I hope I can redirect this admirable trait. :thumbsup:

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As always Brother Bathfire you are the Beacon of Tolerance® on this Godly forum. What admirable traits you see in this particular individual must have been revealed to you and you alone in a vision from Jesus.

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well now again im just asking because im genuinly curious,
because (and again correct me if im wrong) it seems to me that
the LBC preach that it follows the king james 1611 version of the "holy" book, doesnt that mean that you also follow the preachings of Christ,
and if im not mistaking when jesus forgave the guy begging for time to
pay off his loans, that was in the spirit of tolerance?

I have several more questions i would like to have answered by you
Pastor Bathfire, but unfortunately its 2:30 in the morning here now and i have errands i need to run in the morning, so if you would please indulge me in this i will return here as soon as i am capable later in the day.

and now you must have a splendid evening or whatever time of day it is with you when you read this and for the rest of the night from a poor deluted sinner: Peace out hommies:sarcasm::innocent:

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well now again im just asking because im genuinly curious,
because (and again correct me if im wrong) it seems to me that
the LBC preach that it follows the king james 1611 version of the "holy" book, doesnt that mean that you also follow the preachings of Christ,
and if im not mistaking when jesus forgave the guy begging for time to
pay off his loans, that was in the spirit of tolerance?

I have several more questions i would like to have answered by you
Pastor Bathfire, but unfortunately its 2:30 in the morning here now and i have errands i need to run in the morning, so if you would please indulge me in this i will return here as soon as i am capable later in the day.

and now you must have a splendid evening or whatever time of day it is with you when you read this and for the rest of the night from a poor deluted sinner: Peace out hommies:sarcasm::innocent:
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Well im back again and i truly hope that The fine Pastor of diversity and tolerance Ezekiel Bathfire will endulge me in a few questions, perhaps even
a small healthy debate since you seemingly appear as a well read and
articulated man that without a doubt can shed some light on different
subjects for me as i am a simple sinner with several questions i would love to have answered and please understand that if i answer on your response with another question it is not to bash, flame or insult but simply because many of the answers i get from people here only puts more questions in my mind and i believe that if any individual in here would be able to shed light on these things for me it should be you.
so in short terms i would be honored if you would grace me with some of your wisdom

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oh please ignore the first part of the last post above the stabled line as it was mere so that i wouldnt forget what i had already written while writing the new post and i merely forgot to remove it before i posted it,
i hope that this little mistake on my part will not make you (pastor Bathfire) refrain from granting me my humble request:)
again i would be honored if you would lend me some of your no doubt precious time:)

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I hope you're patient. The pastor might be taking his nap.

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some would say that patience is my middle name,
although others would call me an intolerant prick,
but personally i think im somewhere in the middle,
but in the case of pastor Bathfire i will let my patience
be my guide since i am the one requesting him using his time
on me and due to the fact that i can imagine that he is
a busy man and ofcorse the fact that i am unsaved trash...

but again i hope he will honor me with some of his time when he has some
for as ive said many a time in here i am merely curious and trying to educate myself and i believe that he is the man that can give me
the answers i seek if anyone in here can:)
(no offence to you or any of the other believers in here ofcorse)

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Well now i feel that i am in need of explaining myself here since i have been given a warning by heathen basher for posting unholy poetry due to the way i shaped my previous post and since i cant write to heathen basher himself i guess this is the next best thing as i have clearly been misunderstood. I wasn't even aware that my post could be percieved as poetry, i was simply writing in the way that i was taught, but in a strange way i am flattered that it could be percieved as such. But in no way can i understand that it can be seen as unholy even to the people in here as i did my very best to be humble about asking pastor Bathfire for some of his time to answer some questions that i had for him as he seemed genuinly interested in talking to me in the last post i read of his. I mean he did even compliment me himself and spoke to me in a civil tounge so i saw no reason to do anything but treat him with the same respect that he showed me.

And here in the end i would like to point out as i did in the end of my last post that i am not out to offend anyone. On the contrary, I'm just trying to understand, so please bear with me for i do my very best not to be insulting or ungodly in any way in here. All i do is ask questions to the people that say they have the answers nothing else. :)

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Didn't I warn you against this? Well anyway, I fixed your unholy mess.

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how can my last post be unholy when all i do is speak about respect for the pastor Bathfire wich it seems is pretty revered in here?
and he by far seems the most resonable man in here, he is the only person whom actually answers the questions that he has been asked without
dancing around the pot (as the heathens tend to say)
and therefor it is to him i direct my posts from now on,
but again when can talk of respect and wisdom about your own holy man be considered blasphemy and unholy?

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Why don't you just go throw yourself in a volcano and sacrifice yourself to Odin or whichever eskimo demon you worship and leave us in peace? This is a Christian forum. Unsaved NOT welcome! This means you! :rtfm:

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I agree that he wanted the debt paid, but he did retract the part about the man having to sell his kids and so forth to give him time to pay back
the debt did he not?

as i said i agree that he wanted the debt repaid and ofcorse, debt should always be repaid, but when he gives him time to pay it back instead of
having to sell his kids to get the debt at once is that not being tolerant?

and when jesus talks about rejoicing about they stray sheep he got back to the flock more than he would do over the ninety and nine that stayed,
is that not about tolerance for the stray sheep and forgiving it for going astray or am i completely wrong on this one aswell and if so what does he speak about here?

and this is just for you because i apparently have disrespected you a great deal according to some of the other true christians in here
and if you see it in the same way i am truly sorry about that, but i will ask you this personally since the only response i got when asking it in my last post was to go jump in a volcano, but how can a post talking about respect for you and wisdom on your part as a holy man be considered unholy and blasphemous, even though it apparently had been written in verses? (without it being intended)

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Would it be too much trouble to respect Jesus enough to properly capitalize words like "Jesus," "Christian" and "God?" :angry:

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i merely posted these things because i have some respect for pastor Bathfire and he himself posted as follows:

'There seemed to be some intolerance in your post - I hope I can redirect this admirable trait. :thumbsup:'

i personally take this as an invite for a debate even though you say that this is not a forum for such a thing, but i would still like aswell to see if pastor Bathfire is capable of this... is that really that bad?

and im not the one giving warnings and infractions for talking about respect for the pastor, i just wonder why i receive them...

and by the way i am sorry that i forgot to caps Jesus, Christian and God correct it was not intended to insult and i will try not to forget that again in the future.

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Oh and Pastor Bathfire,
to follow up on my questions about tolerance in the Bible
then i am tempted to mention matthew 18:21-22


18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

if not this is about tolerance then what is Jesus talking about here?

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Originally Posted by Sexual deviant (Post 558111) […] but when he gives him time to pay it back instead of having to sell his kids to get the debt at once is that not being tolerant?

No, it is NOT! It is being sure that you’ll get your money!

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and when jesus talks about rejoicing about they stray sheep he got back to the flock more than he would do over the ninety and nine that stayed,

To a nation of sheep-herders, lost sheep are money – they have a value. A member of a group has a value. Jesus is giving sound, hard-headed, business advice that a peasant could understand. (I don’t know why you can’t.) The more you have working for The Lord, the better. It also gives an example to the others that, if they stray, they’ll be welcome back.

Where’s the tolerance in that? It’s business sense!

I don’t read posts that praise me – I am a humble man and don’t have that sort of time. I have no answer other than there must have been a good reason.

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Originally Posted by Sexual deviant (Post 558135) Oh and Pastor Bathfire,

Think of it. Do you have a brother? Is he a pain in the ass? How long do you think that it will take for him to annoy you 490 times? A year? Two years?

All Jesus is saying is, “Don’t fly into a rage, wait until the evidence builds up and everyone can see you’re right.” The sub-text is that you should keep a record of everyone that annoys you to see when you can respond in a language and with actions they will understand.

(That evidence will look good in court also)

How do you see Matthew 18:21-22 compared with, say, 2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman or Luke 19:27?

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First off it was not so much a post intented to praise as such,
but more just the reason why your word was the one i was really interested in learning about, a stating of how i found that you treated me with respect and therefore i saw no other reason to treat you with any other, and you seemed (ever so humble as you may be) as a gentleman,
therefore i am interested in speaking with you, so i ask of you because i see absolutely no sighn of blasphemy in any of my words and because the post was directed at you i humbly ask of you to read all my previous posts here and tell me excactly where i blaspheme or smear you or any other,
i simply ask questions as i have said before am curious and i wish to understand and personally i dont see these things anywhere in my posts,
i try to be as civil as possible, while having a gentlemans debate,
if you wish to talk privately over something other than skype, then
we can du that aswell...

well on to the other points...

as i have by now understood in here is that you follow the word of
the bible to the letter, without interpretations at all,
i have more than once seen people in here declare that nothing in here
can be bent or understood in other ways than how it is written,
again correct me here if im wrong but as i grasp it by now is that
every word and every letter in the king james 1611 version of the bible wich is the ONLY true bible in exsistance and because it is the excact word of God none of it can be disputed right?

well it seems to me that when you talk about subtext when jesus says
that the brother should be forgiven all those times all he says is: I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
In the context of forgiving and with this in mind does that not mean to be tolerant wich is defined by accepting something, despite not liking it...
but again please tell me where i am wrong...

Oh and about the stray sheep if what you say is true and it is all about sound buisness sense, why in Gods name would he leave his entire herd untended to go look for a single stray sheep, wouldnt the loss of one sheep still be cheaper than the potential loss of the rest of the herd?

well that is all the time i have for tonight, but i am enthusiastic to read
your response wich i hope you are still interested in granting me,
so too all out there reading this you may have a good night :innocent:

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Matthew 18:21-22 compared with, say, 2 Chronicles 15:13

i see this as a great contradictory statement in the bible unless
you see the new testament (as i have previously mentioned somewhere else in here) as the reform of gods will, by jesus his one and only son,
just like any other good story it has to evolve its plot or it wont be
able to entertain you until the end...