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Pastor Ezekiel 08-09-2008 01:28 PM

PROOF God is REAL!
 


Ezekiel Bathfire 08-09-2008 01:41 PM

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You know Pastor, I often feel that we here at Landover are too compassionate and understanding. Do we bend to far in allowing the vile sinners to spew their diatribes of vomit across these Godly Pages? Do we allow our responses to be driven by these atheists and communists with their grubby grasping at straws? Do we argue too much with them over their schemes and thoughts, which are devoid of all moral guidance?

Mr Current has a lesson for us all here: The Bible says it and the Bible is the Word of God and thus God must exist. I feel we need to maintain that clear Vision of Faith and I believe the Godless Unsaved Trash could then start their march towards Salvation™! Praise!

One-eyed Jack 08-09-2008 03:12 PM

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That video is an excellent summary of the proper Christian attitude toward arrogant know-nothings, uneducated braggarts, illiterate provincials, and other scientific types.

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc." -- Jerry Falwell, Finding Inner Peace and Strength

God knows all, and is eternal. In the Bible He gave a compendium of ultimate and perfect wisdom to mankind. We can make an educated guess at what God considered important by looking at what He chose to put into His great book.

God believes it is important that mankind know that He killed King Jehoram by making his intestines fall out of his ass. God considers knowledge of King Jehoram's prolapse more important than knowing about electricity, antibiotics, or higher math.

In fact, the Omniscient Scientist apparently thinks science in general is not very important -- the Bible reveals nothing about atomic theory, or stoichiometric chemistry, or optics. It would have been very useful for God's children to have binoculars during their military campaigns in Canaan -- not to mention weapons made of high-carbon steel! -- but God did not think lenses and metallurgy important enough to mention in His Book of Wisdom.

So it is very likely that God really doesn't want mankind to have refrigerators and televisions, heart surgery and painless dentistry. Looking at the wisdom God passed on to mankind in His book of eternal wisdom, it seems that God really prefers mankind to live in an early-Iron-Age society.

Much like the Dark Ages of Europe, with Baptists instead of Catholics as the Godly elite.

I am cast into gloom by our modern, anti-God society. It is simply not Biblical. And it is the fault of scientists and technologists. Bastards!

~~ OEJ

Rachael Van Helsing 08-09-2008 03:36 PM

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Oh, yes, utterly convincing. :sarcasm: Oh, so convincing, a badly made video with text flashing one person's opinion. If you accept such as proof, then give me a bit of time and I'll show you 'proof' that the president's wife is actually a baboon. :pirate: (It's already been proven many a time that he himself bears a close resemblance to our apelike ancestors).

Bob Kaare 08-09-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rachael Van Helsing (Post 219701)
Oh, yes, utterly convincing. :sarcasm: Oh, so convincing, a badly made video with text flashing one person's opinion. If you accept such as proof, then give me a bit of time and I'll show you 'proof' that the president's wife is actually a baboon. :pirate: (It's already been proven many a time that he himself bears a close resemblance to our apelike ancestors).

I checked out his myspace page, did you?B)

Butt Pirate 08-09-2008 06:38 PM

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This is definitely the most, unexpected proof i have ever witnessed, Make it yourself?

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-09-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Heidi Arrugila (Post 219751)
This is definitely the most, unexpected proof i have ever witnessed, Make it yourself?

...and I suppose you have an even better proof for the existence of God, O genius...?

Women just can't get their pretty little heads around these concepts, but that's no reason to dismiss them.

MattyB 08-16-2008 08:33 AM

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Okay so pretty much the argument is that the Bible is right and everything else is wrong? Wow, that was a long video just to say you believe only because of faith. And say no to reason? Wow, that is very primitive.

Talitha 08-16-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyB (Post 221979)
Okay so pretty much the argument is that the Bible is right and everything else is wrong? Wow, that was a long video just to say you believe only because of faith. And say no to reason? Wow, that is very primitive.

It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

See, easy :thumbsup:

eliot mayfield 08-16-2008 08:53 AM

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Faith is everything! Without faith there is nothing. You sure do a search on our site for this very important topic!

MattyB 08-16-2008 09:16 AM

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I have faith the Minnesota Vikings are going to win the next SuperBowl, doesn't have mean I'm right or ignorant? Oh, or are sports evil too for you fundamentalists? You deny reason over faith, what planet do you have to be on?

Ezekiel Bathfire 08-16-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyB (Post 221990)
I have faith the Minnesota Vikings are going to win the next SuperBowl, doesn't have mean I'm right or ignorant? Oh, or are sports evil too for you fundamentalists? You deny reason over faith, what planet do you have to be on?

Apart from not understanding the highlighted phrase, may I suggest to you that if you are able to believe, through faith, that the Minnesota Vikings are going to win the next SuperBowl, then faith in an Almighty God and Lord of All as revealed in KJV1611, is going to be easy.

I think you are a closet Christian and I am outting you!

Pastor Ezekiel 08-16-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyB (Post 221990)
I have faith the Minnesota Vikings are going to win the next SuperBowl, doesn't have mean I'm right or ignorant? Oh, or are sports evil too for you fundamentalists? You deny reason over faith, what planet do you have to be on?

How old are you boy? I'm guessing about 14. :glare:

messingwithpeople 08-17-2008 09:25 PM

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How about some logic and perhaps some Occum's razor.

god =\= true

god made the bible so...

bible =\= true

Also, if god is omnipotent why would he care to put the light going this way when he made the universe? He's too lazy to do that. Because he's a FAKE.

messingwithpeople 08-17-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 222016)
How old are you boy? I'm guessing about 14. :glare:

Woah, now, keep it in your pants, no raping allowed.

Bob4God 08-17-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by godslove (Post 222521)
Woah, now, keep it in your pants, no raping allowed.

This isn't a filthy Catholic church filled with statues and other hard objects! We don't RAPE children here!! :angry:

Ahimaaz Smith 08-18-2008 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by godslove (Post 222520)
perhaps some Occum's razor

I presume you mean Occam's razor. If so, then what's the simpler hypothesis, that the universe was created by an omnipotent being or that a bunch of stuff that fills up trillions upon trillions of square light years that just happens to have all of the prerequisites for life all flew out of nothing? at exatly the same time.

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=\=
What is that, a no smoking sign?

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Also, if god is omnipotent why would he care to put the light going this way when he made the universe? He's too lazy to do that. Because he's a FAKE.
The Lord created the world in only six days, then went right back to work after taking only one day of vacation, and you call Him lazy? How old are you and what have you accomplished in all that time?

I'm not quite sure what yo mean by "put the light going this way." God said let there be light, and there was light, right after he created the Heaven and the Earth. Then, three days later, he created the Sun and the Moon and the stars. It's not any more complicated than that.

The DEVIL-tard 08-25-2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 219668)


hmm "says" he wrote??? well i says i created the earth. so everyone bow down to me. if god is so perfect why did he create people who believe in the devil?

Roberta 08-25-2008 01:47 AM

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Why don't you finish your basic grammar studies before you post on our forum again, dimwit!

JennyD 08-25-2008 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDEVIL (Post 226172)
hmm "says" he wrote??? well i says i created the earth. so everyone bow down to me. if god is so perfect why did he create people who believe in the devil?

Because He created the devil. What sort of people would NOT believe the devil exists, when the Bible says he does? :dunce:

Warrior of God 08-26-2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyB (Post 221979)
Okay so pretty much the argument is that the Bible is right and everything else is wrong? Wow, that was a long video just to say you believe only because of faith. And say no to reason? Wow, that is very primitive.

In fact, there is nothing primitive about faith .
It is actualy one of the higher states of consciousness.

That is why only one species, or rather one small section of that species, really has it.

Any species can deal with the tangible. Any animal can interact with a bananna, or a rock, or a log.

Only the chosen can actually demonstrate a higher level of sentience needed to translate the intangible nature of faith into a real form of existence and belief.

Faith is not primitive , it is intricate yet simple in its essential purity, and obviously beyond your ken.
:jesus:

enclave2k7 09-01-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Talitha (Post 221983)
It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

See, easy :thumbsup:

Maybe Im not in on the joke. I just found this website. You do realize that his video is a satire, correct? He is mocking Christians for their beliefs. What you are saying here is a fallacy known as 'circular logic' or 'begging the question'.

God is real ---because---> The bible says he is real --- because ---|
^____________________God wrote the bible___________________|

If this form of reason were acceptable, I would able to prove Conan the barbarian was real because there are texts that say he is real.


Again, I'm new, perhaps Im not in on the joke.

Ezekiel Bathfire 09-01-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229429)
If this form of reason were acceptable, I would able to prove Conan the barbarian was real because there are texts that say he is real.

... but I see you quote none of those texts because you and I both know that they are the work of over-excited, poorly educated people, who do not have behind them the Authority of The Almighty!

enclave2k7 09-01-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 229436)
... but I see you quote none of those texts because you and I both know that they are the work of over-excited, poorly educated people, who do not have behind them the Authority of The Almighty!

Quite true, I do not quote Conan the barbarian because it is a ridiculous proposition.

Ezekiel Bathfire 09-01-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229437)
Quite true, I do not quote Conan the barbarian because it is a ridiculous proposition.

..and by extension, your use of him in an argument was ridiculous - God 1 - enclave2k7 0

enclave2k7 09-01-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire (Post 229456)
..and by extension, your use of him in an argument was ridiculous - God 1 - enclave2k7 0

I was explaining that the video was mocking Christians. The form of reasoning used is fallacious.

I created an analogy to help you better understand the fallacy which was used to show how ridiculous the notion is. If you believe the analogy to be foolish, my point was made... in your terms, by extension the reasoning (circular logic) is foolish.

Pastor Ezekiel 09-01-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229462)
I was explaining that the video was mocking Christians. The form of reasoning used is fallacious.

I created an analogy to help you better understand the fallacy which was used to show how ridiculous the notion is. If you believe the analogy to be foolish, my point was made... in your terms, by extension the reasoning (circular logic) is foolish.

I think we all know who the Christ-mocker is here. :glare:

The only reasoning we need is found in the Holy Bible. Glory!!

enclave2k7 09-01-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 229464)
I think we all know who the Christ-mocker is here. :glare:

I have not mocked your God. Perhaps you believe I do, but, it was not intentional.


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The only reasoning we need is found in the Holy Bible. Glory!!
Thank you! This precisely illustrates the point of circular logic.

You only need the Holy Bible, because it is the inspired word of God.
God is indisputable because the Holy Bible tells us so.

I hope I have made this clear for you to understand; please point out what you dont understand.

Pastor Ezekiel 09-01-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229470)
I have not mocked your God. Perhaps you believe I do, but, it was not intentional.

By openly rejecting Him, and by coming univited and unwelcomed into God's favorite forum and exspousing all manner of seccularist lies, you mock Him with each post. :glare:



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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229470)
Thank you! This precisely illustrates the point of circular logic.

You only need the Holy Bible, because it is the inspired word of God.
God is indisputable because the Holy Bible tells us so.

I hope I have made this clear for you to understand; please point out what you dont understand.

You have to be the thickest unsaved heathen we've had in a long time. Do you imagine the it's news to us that we obey God based on His Divine Word in the Holy KJV1611 Bible? :haha:

God wrote the book. Who are you to reject it? Without even bothering to read it yet!! What a maroon! :rofl3:

enclave2k7 09-01-2008 11:59 PM

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God wrote the book. Who are you to reject it? Without even bothering to read it yet!! What a maroon! :rofl3:
But, I have read the King James Version Bible.

Pastor Ezekiel 09-02-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229476)
But, I have read the King James Version Bible.

Then I imagine you must be familiar with this verse, which explains why unsaved scum like you have no hope of understanding the Holy Word of God. :glare:

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John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Ezekiel Bathfire 09-02-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 229476)
But, I have read the King James Version Bible.

The Book of Common Prayer (1662), Collects. 2nd Sunday in Advent is instructive; Blessed Lord, who hast caused all holy Scriptures to be written for our learning; Grant that we may in such wise hear them read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest them, that by patience, and comfort of thy holy Word, we may embrace, and ever hold fast the blessed hope of everlasting life.

So get on with this bit; read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest and note the possible afterlife benefits! Praise!

Captain_Asshat 09-02-2008 10:33 PM

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More Proof that God is real! Let's see even silly asshat-athiests try ta dispute THIS one! :lol:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/2005/0201...34_200X150.jpg

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Juan Pastrano, of Prairie Lea, Texas, said he was cooking his mother breakfast on Sunday when he looked close and saw what looks like the face of Jesus etched in his frying pan.

Bama_Girl 09-02-2008 10:46 PM

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Yeah, I once got a message in my cereal... it said "oooooooooooooooooo". It was cheerios.
Doesn't mean a thing. A silly "picture" in a frying pan? Please. If you look hard enough I am sure you could find a picture of any silly god in any instrument/medium you wish to strain your eyes to see.

enclave2k7 09-03-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 229491)
Then I imagine you must be familiar with this verse, which explains why unsaved scum like you have no hope of understanding the Holy Word of God. :glare:

While I can appreciate you telling me that I am unsaved, the fact you refer to me as scum is amusing to me. Doesn't the responsibility of judgment fall upon your God and not you?

Besides, is this how you would speak to someone you have forgiven for his sins?

From your own signature:
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:26

Pastor Ezekiel 09-04-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 230382)
While I can appreciate you telling me that I am unsaved, the fact you refer to me as scum is amusing to me. Doesn't the responsibility of judgment fall upon your God and not you?

No, Jesus commands us to judge unsaved scum like you.

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Leviticus 19:15
In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.


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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 230382)
Besides, is this how you would speak to someone you have forgiven for his sins?

You cannot be forgiven unless you repent and ask Jesus to forgive you. Unless and until you take that first step, Jesus wants us to avoid scum like you as if you had the plague.

We are commanded to hate those that hate God.

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Psalm 139:19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

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Originally Posted by enclave2k7 (Post 230382)
From your own signature:
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:26

See above. You have to ASK for forgiveness and sincerely REPENT before God will give you the time of day.

Dramatic_Emo_ 09-17-2008 04:10 AM

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The person who made that video is obviously a troll. He doesn't believe anything in it, and made it just to get an uprise out of people. You can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice.

Pastor Ezekiel 09-17-2008 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramatic_Emo_ (Post 237119)
The person who made that video is obviously a troll. He doesn't believe anything in it, and made it just to get an uprise out of people. You can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice.

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you, troll. :glare:

Andreas Ivanschitz 09-17-2008 01:13 PM

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This is no proof, it is just an opinion.

While you believe without knowing, scientists are based on facts and mathematics.

Pastor Ezekiel 09-17-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Ivanschitz (Post 237242)
This is no proof, it is just an opinion.

While you believe without knowing, scientists are based on facts and mathematics.

"Facts" always change. 200 years ago it was a "fact" that Man couldn't fly. Now it's a "fact" that we can.


God never changes. :thumbsup:


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