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Marko Loimaan-Aho 05-22-2014 09:04 PM

Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
I read this news: "With lethal drugs in short supply, Wyoming considering firing squads"

I've heard that reason for this is the liberal Eurotrash Union, which does not allow to export poisons for this purpose. As an european native eskimo, I feel ashamed of that kind of politics.

In my homeland, Sinland, which is technically part of Sweden, all liberals are now horrified of these shooting plans. How brutal, they say.

I can not agree. Everyone who has shot dogs knows, that a good, well-aimed bullet straight into brain is much more gracious way than some kind of poison. Shooting is also a good-old American way, my grandfather told me great stories of the shootings he saw in Utah when he was a kid.

Shooting is great fun, but why don't they consider stoning? I've learned that it is the Christian way. Are any True Christians living in Wyoming, or is Wyoming very liberal state, First in Line for the :shortbus:

WWJDnow 05-22-2014 11:40 PM

Re: Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
Why do convicted murderers deserve a more pleasant death than their victims got. The Bible says an eye for an eye, and that's the way it should be. We should kill the murderers using the same method they used to kill their victims. Or we could just let the victim's families stone them.

Benedict A. Davis 06-18-2014 10:53 AM

Re: Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
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Originally Posted by WWJDnow (Post 1090409)
Why do convicted murderers deserve a more pleasant death than their victims got. The Bible says an eye for an eye, and that's the way it should be. We should kill the murderers using the same method they used to kill their victims. Or we could just let the victim's families stone them.

While I applaud your eye for an eye strategy might I offer a more full proof of someone's guilt and allow God to have the final say in the the execution of his laws, Crucifixion.

How could anyone call it cruel and unusual punishment. The Lord has shown that if the sentence of death is not called for he can reverse it. He offered proof with his Son and had it historically documented in the Bible and besides how could it ever be called cruel when you follow God's instruction. It could be called nothing short of beautiful! Praise the Lord!

Mother Of Seven 06-18-2014 11:03 AM

Re: Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
That is an ideal solution, Brother Benedict. With the persecution of True Christians™ increasing under the nigro Obama, it's only a matter of time before one of our number is executed for doing nothing more than following God's commands. If crucifixion was the method de rigueur, then the Lord would certainly resurrect our fallen comrade.

Marko Loimaan-Aho 06-18-2014 12:53 PM

Re: Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
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Originally Posted by Benedict A. Davis (Post 1095122)
While I applaud your eye for an eye strategy might I offer a more full proof of someone's guilt and allow God to have the final say in the the execution of his laws, Crucifixion.

How could anyone call it cruel and unusual punishment. The Lord has shown that if the sentence of death is not called for he can reverse it. He offered proof with his Son and had it historically documented in the Bible and besides how could it ever be called cruel when you follow God's instruction. It could be called nothing short of beautiful! Praise the Lord!

This sounds very reasonable.
I tried to find from the internet good instructions for crucifixion, but the only ones I found were Catlick Education Center and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. I am sure those papists and luther-believers are doing something wrong, those instructions cannot be trusted.

I did not find any instructions made by True Christians. Is there any to be found? I am sure, our own specialists can do better, instructions which gets its justification from KJV.

Benedict A. Davis 06-18-2014 01:24 PM

Re: Liberal thinking? Wyoming is considering condemned convicts to be executed by firing squad.
 
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Originally Posted by Marko Loimaan-Aho (Post 1095143)
This sounds very reasonable.
I tried to find from the internet good instructions for crucifixion, but the only ones I found were Catlick Education Center and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. I am sure those papists and luther-believers are doing something wrong, those instructions cannot be trusted.

I did not find any instructions made by True Christians. Is there any to be found? I am sure, our own specialists can do better, instructions which gets its justification from KJV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus
I hate to use Wikapedia, the readers digest of history, but as there are many things to consider and that can be cited from the Bible {as one example see the Book of John 19:17-37 }
Method and manner


Whereas most Christians believe the gibbet on which Jesus was executed was the traditional two-beamed cross, debate exists regarding the view that a single upright stake was used. The Greek and Latin words used in the earliest Christian writings are ambiguous. The Koine Greek terms used in the New Testament are stauros (σταυρός) and xylon (ξύλον). The latter means wood (a live tree, timber or an object constructed of wood); in earlier forms of Greek, the former term meant an upright stake or pole, but in Koine Greek it was used also to mean a cross.[129] The Latin word crux was also applied to objects other than a cross.[130]
However, early Christians writers who speak of the shape of the particular gibbet on which Jesus died invariably describe it as having a cross-beam. For instance, the Epistle of Barnabas, which was certainly earlier than 135,[131] and may have been of the 1st century AD,[132] the time when the gospel accounts of the death of Jesus were written, likened it to the letter T (the Greek letter tau, which had the numeric value of 300),[133] and to the position assumed by Moses in Exodus 17:11–12.[134] Justin Martyr (100–165) explicitly says the cross of Christ was of two-beam shape: "That lamb which was commanded to be wholly roasted was a symbol of the suffering of the cross which Christ would undergo. For the lamb, which is roasted, is roasted and dressed up in the form of the cross. For one spit is transfixed right through from the lower parts up to the head, and one across the back, to which are attached the legs of the lamb."[135] Irenaeus, who died around the end of the 2nd century, speaks of the cross as having "five extremities, two in length, two in breadth, and one in the middle, on which [last] the person rests who is fixed by the nails."[136] For other witnesses to how early Christians envisaged the shape of the gibbet used for Jesus, see Dispute about Jesus' execution method.
The assumption of the use of a two-beamed cross does not determine the number of nails used in the crucifixion and some theories suggest three nails while others suggest four nails.[137] However, throughout history larger numbers of nails have been hypothesized, at times as high as 14 nails.[138] These variations are also present in the artistic depictions of the crucifixion.[139] In the Western Church, before the Renaissance usually four nails would be depicted, with the feet side by side. After the Renaissance most depictions use three nails, with one foot placed on the other.[139] Nails are almost always depicted in art, although Romans sometimes just tied the victims to the cross.[139] The tradition also carries to Christian emblems, e.g. the Jesuits use three nails under the IHS monogram and a cross to symbolize the crucifixion.[140]
The placing of the nails in the hands, or the wrists is also uncertain. Some theories suggest that the Greek word cheir (χειρ) for hand includes the wrist and that the Romans were generally trained to place nails through Destot's space (between the capitate and lunate bones) without fracturing any bones.[141] Another theory suggests that the Greek word for hand also includes the forearm and that the nails were placed near the radius and ulna of the forearm.[142] Ropes may have also been used to fasten the hands in addition to the use of nails.[143]
Another issue has been the use of a hypopodium as a standing platform to support the feet, given that the hands may not have been able to support the weight. In the 17th century Rasmus Bartholin considered a number of analytical scenarios of that topic.[138] In the 20th century, forensic pathologist Frederick Zugibe performed a number of crucifixion experiments by using ropes to hang human subjects at various angles and hand positions.[142] His experiments support an angled suspension, and a two-beamed cross, and perhaps some form of foot support, given that in an Aufbinden form of suspension from a straight stake (as used by the Nazis in the Dachau concentration camp during World War II), death comes rather quickly.[144]


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