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Pastor Ezekiel 05-01-2008 05:39 AM

Do You Hate Your Mother As Much As Jesus Did?
 
Do You Hate Your Mother as Much as Jesus Hated His?

A Biblical Approach to Mother's Day.

Mother's Day is really no different than any other pagan holiday. Its object is to get you to the mall and then trick you into worshiping someone other than Jesus. As True Baptists™, we must come to terms with the full knowledge that Satan's burping whore of Babylon, the Catholic Church, is behind every shameless secular holiday. With Mother's Day, the foul stench of papal involvement couldn't be more obvious. Because the ring-kissers have made a history of whipping their psychosexual cravings for Jesus' mother, Mary into such a fever pitch, that they spend all their time worrying about what went into her Holy Vagina, leaving no time to worship what came out of it – Jesus!

Hell-bound Catholics (as if there are any other kind) would have you believe that Jesus loved his mother. But the Holy Bible tells us differently. Jesus said, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother...he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26). So it is perfectly clear that we are called upon by Christ to hate our parents. Fortunately, as sweet Jenna and Barbara Bush have found, this isn't a very onerous expectation. We may spend our entire lives doing our best to emulate the Lord Jesus, but rest assured, we will never match the utter contempt and intolerable scorn that He had for His own mother. And that's not even getting into what Jesus felt about His Daddy! But imagine what you would feel like if you knew your father was out to kill you only to make Himself look more forgiving to others!

Can you imagine being doted and hounded by your own mother as much as Jesus was from His? Even for a Jewish mother, the woman was clearly a pest. Scripture reveals to us that she was an insufferable leech when it came to her precious Son. Once, when Jesus was attending a sleazy wedding party in Galilee, His mother started pestering Him to perform one of His magic tricks when they ran out of cheap grape juice. Jesus turned to her and said, "Woman, what have I to do with thee?" (John 2:4). He must have been so fed up with His mother's incessant nagging (and her insisting that He accompany her to such a trashy event) that He turned 6 vessels of water into Welch's grape juice just to get her to shut up for the rest of the day. And when Mary gulped down a big glass of unfermented wine she became furious that she wasn't getting the buzz she craved and said things to Jesus in language that the editors of the Gospels refused to even transcribe.

Mary was always trying to make a momma's boy out of Jesus, but He just wouldn't stand for it. He was more of Daddy's boy. But He even got fed up with His own Heavenly Father in the end, as well. He did everything His Daddy God asked Him to, but when He was slapped onto the cross like a slab of raw meat, He was all alone shouting, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46). And while Jesus was hanging up there, being barbecued in the hot sun for the sins of mankind, He was still able to muster enough strength to look down at His confused mother and scream, "Woman, behold thy son!" (John 19:26). This was the Judaic equivalent of "Well, I hope you're satisfied!" Jesus' words there reflect a smug satisfaction through His pain and suffering that He would never again be subjected to a life of having to impress His mother's friends at Jerusalem tea parties with His super powers. The good Lord would only perform one more trick before leaving this world: to cheat death. And it wouldn't be for His mother. He became undead for all of us! Particularly those of us here at Landover Baptist and other Bible believing churches across America! Glory to God! But you better believe, during His brief time as a freshly resurrected corpse He wasn’t even tempted to seek out his yenta harpy of a mother to spook her! No sir! He hotfooted right back to Heaven!

So this Mother's day, we encourage you to make it a Bible-friendly day by sending your mother a little card to remind her of how much you and Jesus loathe her. By sending this card you will have proof in your file on Judgment Day that you actually did follow Jesus' commandment to hate your mother. And you can join Jesus in slapping your knees and having a big old belly-laugh as both of you watch your mothers slide down a greased shoot towards the unquenchable fires of an everlasting Mother-welcoming Hell. To God be the glory!

Pastor Ezekiel 05-01-2009 01:21 PM

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Bump for Mother's Day.

Talitha 05-01-2009 02:09 PM

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I used to set fire to the family home on Mothers Day.
When they asked why, I would just tell them that Jesus said it was OK.
One time I did it and the Nigra Gardener got the blame.
I'm sure he saw the funny side of it :thumbsup:

Bobby-Joe 05-01-2009 03:55 PM

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Very moving post Pastor Zeke. It inspired me last night; I called my mother up in Butler Pennsylvania for the first time in a year. After she got threw with all the mushy stuff I told her she was a hell bound Mary Worshiping Catholic and Jesus hated her. Sadly I didn't get to the chance tell her to repent because she started sobbing and dropped the phone. My father picked it up, called me a worthless bastard and hung up on me.

It is ok, I know they they were attacking Christ threw me so another jewel is being added to the crown Jesus has ready for me in heaven.

Eugene Hackwith 05-04-2009 01:41 AM

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I don't think any mortal can hate their mother as much as Jesus hated his, but I used to come pretty darned close. My mother, may she rest in pieces, was a spiteful drunkard of a woman. My father would have to practically drag her out of the speakeasy.

Thank God that I ran into the waiting arms of His son, Jesus Christ. Now I'm Saved!

sanctifiedsoldier 07-08-2009 03:18 AM

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i cant believe what i am reading. i am a Christian, and i believe catholicism is missing the point, but that doesnt mean that al catholics are going to hell.

some people worship under that denomination (and personally i do not understand why) but they love Jesus Christ with all there hearts and are born again. i know this for a fact. i know several people like this. i have seen the love, i have seen the life, i have seen Christ rule there lives.

what you wrote was closed minded and border line hatred. if you believe that that pleases Jesus, think again, if you think that that is a witness that will encourage others to fall in love with Jesus, it wont.

I know that Jesus will judge the sin of the earth, and that He is not wishy-washy, but i do not believe that you can say "Hell-bound Catholics (as if there are any other kind)"

sanctifiedsoldier 07-08-2009 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe (Post 320515)
Very moving post Pastor Zeke. It inspired me last night; I called my mother up in Butler Pennsylvania for the first time in a year. After she got threw with all the mushy stuff I told her she was a hell bound Mary Worshiping Catholic and Jesus hated her. Sadly I didn't get to the chance tell her to repent because she started sobbing and dropped the phone. My father picked it up, called me a worthless bastard and hung up on me.

It is ok, I know they they were attacking Christ threw me so another jewel is being added to the crown Jesus has ready for me in heaven.

tell me this is a joke, i believe that worshipping mary is sin. absolutely, it doesnt make any sense. but if you have even an ounce of wisdom, you will realize you cannot just say hateful things to people and expect them to repent, Jesus loves your mother.

she is sinful, but so are you. so am i. His grace covers us.

Jesus didnt ever preach hatred. He doesnt hate any human

do not judge others lest you be judged, our job is to love them and speak truth in love.

Pastor Ezekiel 07-08-2009 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sanctifiedsoldier (Post 356224)
tell me this is a joke, i believe that worshipping mary is sin. absolutely, it doesnt make any sense. but if you have even an ounce of wisdom, you will realize you cannot just say hateful things to people and expect them to repent, Jesus loves your mother.

she is sinful, but so are you. so am i. His grace covers us.

Jesus didnt ever preach hatred. He doesnt hate any human

do not judge others lest you be judged, our job is to love them and speak truth in love.

"Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

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Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.
Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

Quote:

Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I pray that you have found this enlightening.

sanctifiedsoldier 07-08-2009 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 320487)
Bump for Mother's Day.

who will Jesus damn? that is what you focus on?

how about, how can I live my life to serve Him more and love Him more.

religion brings pride and sorrow, Jesus brings humble confident joy

religion- prideful: i am better than others because i am earning my salvation
sorrows: i cant make it, i am damned to hell

Jesus- humble: i have sinned, i am not worthy of God
confident: He died for me and loves me, now i can live in Him and one day with Him!
joy: He is amazing, I am in love with the King of Heaven!

sanctifiedsoldier 07-08-2009 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 356225)
"Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).



Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...



I pray that you have found this enlightening.


He hates the sin, He does not hate the sinner. the reason He hated gilgal is because they turned from Him and denied grace, but who are we to judge the condition of a man's heart?

i look at my thoughts, my deeds, and i am glad that His grace is sufficient no matter what i have done.

i fall under the category of more of the things on your list, but His love covers a multitude of sins.

by the way, i would never discredit something because it is old testament, i agree with you that it is totally valid.

and im not saying He wont damn people to hell because He will, i am just saying it is not His will that any perish, God is love. He came to save the world first, it is not our job to judge it

Pastor Ezekiel 07-08-2009 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sanctifiedsoldier (Post 356229)
He hates the sin, He does not hate the sinner. the reason He hated gilgal is because they turned from Him and denied grace, but who are we to judge the condition of a man's heart?

i look at my thoughts, my deeds, and i am glad that His grace is sufficient no matter what i have done.

i fall under the category of more of the things on your list, but His love covers a multitude of sins.

by the way, i would never discredit something because it is old testament, i agree with you that it is totally valid.

and im not saying He wont damn people to hell because He will, i am just saying it is not His will that any perish, God is love. He came to save the world first, it is not our job to judge it

God doesn't love everybody:

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Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

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Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
You might want to take a look at our church doctrines HERE. :rtfm:

sanctifiedsoldier 07-08-2009 03:43 AM

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If you are going to get caught up on grammar, you are missing the point. However, this is your forum, so I will be more careful out of respect.

If you do not agree with me say so, but not allowing discussion makes this less of a forum and more of a cult.

2 Corinthians 3:5: "Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God."

I'm assuming that is what you mean by worthwhile because my righteousness is that of a filthy rag. Isaiah 64:6

Rev. Jim Osborne 07-08-2009 07:06 AM

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Sanctifiedsoldier,

You must realize that the reason good Pastor Zeke has that as his signature is because it is a warning to all about what sins lead to Hell. Pastor Zeke loves his congregation and he loves you enough to steer you clear of eternal damnation. He does not post that out of mere spite, but out of the hope that sinners like you will wake up and realize what you are doing accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.

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Originally Posted by sanctifiedsoldier (Post 356229)
He hates the sin, He does not hate the sinner. the reason He hated gilgal is because they turned from Him and denied grace, but who are we to judge the condition of a man's heart?

Christians are free to judge. The Bible says so in many places...

Leviticus 19:15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

Psalm 37:30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

Proverbs 31:9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

sinnerbutsaved 07-28-2009 05:07 PM

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so much for honoring thy mother and thy father...

gzus 07-29-2009 02:03 PM

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Pastor Ezekiel, how can you say this message with such false teachings?! Sanctified Soldier is right, God does NOT hate the sinner. He hates sin, and must send people to Hell because of their sin and unrighteousness.
How do I know?

"God commandeth his love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

God had his own Son bear the weight of our sinful world on his back in the form of a crucifixion death. He loved us so much and wanted us to be free from sin so much that it pleased Yahweh to crush Jesus because he had all our sin. We were so depraved that he crushed his own son out of love for us.

Love is the most prominent message of the Bible, it gives it it's unifying theme all throughout. God is Love, and for you to say different is false teachings. I am examining your teachings in light of the scripture, because we do have the right to judge in the fact of telling whether someone is showing the signs of a TRUE christian walk, Matthew 7 has good teachings on this. If you do not get your message straight, you will be damned yourself. God has greater punishment for false teachers. Your own message here has put forth that someone called their parents, cut them down and reduced them to tears, been called a 'bastard' and still convinced them they were being glorified for it? NO, a thousand times NO! Go back and focus on the teachings of Jesus and Paul the tentmaker. They have the most wisdom on Love and the greatest teachings on how we as Christians should show God's Love.

As for Sanctified Soldier, I agree we do not judge someones salvation, just how they show signs of their walk, for if they are saved, they will show. "You will know them by their fruit."

Pastor Ezekiel 07-29-2009 02:21 PM

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Please feel free to show me which scriptures I have gotten wrong.

While you're searching in vain, you might want to read THIS sermon of mine on the subject of judging others. :rtfm:

gzus 07-29-2009 03:15 PM

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You have the COMPLETE message wrong. Do you not read and understand the Bible, read Jesus's teachings.

Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Do you think that you are honoring your mother by telling us to send her a card on how much we loathe her?!

Your quote on Luke 14:26 is wrong, Jesus tells us that we have to take up our cross, and in doing so hate everything that is worldly and sinful if that be our parents, brethren, etc. It means that you should love Jesus and God more than these people. The message of this verse is put better in Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Your supposed to abstain from sin, and being unrighteous and sinful is iniquity, as quoted in psalm 5:5. Hate that people are being unrighteous.

Your own quotes on Proverbs 6 is completely mistaken. He's saying God hates the sin once again and what makes you commit the sin, Jesus said cut off your hand/gouge out your eye if it's a reason you commit sin. He isn't saying he hates the sinner. Plus at the end of Proverbs 6:19, he's speaking to you! With such teachings on hate and love, your preaching falsely.

Plus James 4 says God will take in sinners if they cleanse themselves, and that we are NOT to judge peoples salvation. It even says in James 3 don't bless God and curse others with the same mouth, as you were doing with your mothers day message.

As I said before read the scripture on Love before you preach a message of hate, John 3:16, Romans 5:8.

Read Lamentations 3, Hebrews 12 (especially),

Make sure you read all of these passages, please before you respond. Please!

gzus 07-29-2009 03:57 PM

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Please realize that I'm not trying to attack you personally, I'm just telling you that your message is wrong and you need to examine it. I know your a pastor and you may preach a lot of good stuff, but even a little bit of being incorrect is poisonous. 97% or so of rat poison is edible material that won't kill you, it's that dangerous 3% that can be deadly. I say this out of love myself.

In Matthew 7 Jesus says that not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven. In their times, they said things multiple times when the were emphasizing something, which is why he says so many times, you will know them by their fruit. Here even someone who says Lord, Lord, which he's emphasizing that this isn't just a lukewarm 'christian' will enter heaven. You can be a preacher who says Lord Lord but still not be right in interpretation and life style and therefore won't enter heaven. Please examine what I'm saying and listen to it.

If you choose not to listen then you will be one of those who cannot endure sound doctrine. You can make a lifestyle on doctrine that you interpret wrong and therefore it's not sound and you can endure it. Make sure your doctrine is sound, and endure it and preach it. If you continue in such preachings also, I have to question myself whether or not I'm casting the pearls before the swine in Matthew 7:6. God shows through Jesus his LOVE, and not hate, John 3:16, Romans 5:8 that's why the whole message of the bible is hate, the word appears 300 plus times compared to possibly 80 appearences of hate. Over the whole bible, God inspired the writers for Love. Please read and understand this.

Prayforme 08-06-2009 08:03 AM

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You should love your Mother because Jesus loves her so you should too! If you don't love her you don't love Jesus so you are damned to HELL!:devil:

James Hutchins 08-06-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Prayforme (Post 377048)
You should love your Mother because Jesus loves her so you should too! If you don't love her you don't love Jesus so you are damned to HELL!:devil:

You are wrong. Your mother was a whore. God hates the whore, as should you.:innocent:


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