Originally Posted by F. Nietzsche (Post 420262)

On the other hand, I have no such qualms and will happily point out the problem of the sun being coal-driven.

Coal burning is an aerobic reaction that consumes oxygen to form CO2 and produces heat and light.

In other words, for every molecule of carbon consumed, two molecules of oxygen are consumed, this would imply that any coal-fired sun would continually consume oxygen and thus need a consistent supply, and that the thermal effects of oxygen being consumed would be visible.

Of course, the other issue comes from the large spectrum of electromagnetic radiation from the sun that encompasses not simply the infrared and visible, but also radio, and ultraviolet spectrum, along with the occasional coronal mass ejection of highly charged particles. There are also clear signs of overall nuclear instability given a barrage of neutrinos that pass through the Earth from the Sun, which could not be produced in a simple thermal reaction like the burning of coal.

All evidence points to the sun's power supply being fusion derived, and to maintain that, it would necessitate the sun having sufficent mass to drive it, and thus, sufficent distance to ensure the gravity of such a massive object would not pull the Earth into the Sun.

I suppose I could also point out that scripture really doesn't mention anything regarding the composition of the Sun... I'm not entirely certain of that, but I'm fairly sure it's not mentioned at all in the entire Bible.

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431155)

I'm sorry, but I am slightly confused by this... If someone could please provide scripture then that would be great:

Mathematics teachers and other believers in Pi

In the Bible Pi is a neat 3 (reflecting the trinity, no doubt) while math teachers believe it is an ugly, messy 3.14159. Despite some legal attempts in some state legislatures to return it to the divine purity of 3, pi has hardened its heart and refused to conform to the biblically prescribed norm.

Where in the bible does it state that the circumference of a circle is 3 times the distance of the radius.

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431353)

But Pi is only a number. It is not a sentient being and therefore has no heart to harden. A number is just that, a number. A number cannot be changed to anything more then what it is equal, just as 1+1 can never equal three.

Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba (Post 431361)

Are you saying that God could not make 1+1 = 3? 1+1 = 2 because GOD made it that way.

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431374)

Physically, no, God could not make 1+1=3. You cannot add two objects together and magically get three. It is absurd. Just as Pi cannot equal 3 as it would not equal the amount the circumference of a circle is in relevance to its diameter. God can change anything in the world except numbers. 2+2 can't equal 5, 5x5 can't equal 187.43, etc...

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431408)

I have already wasted enough of my time and must return to my Shakespere studies.

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431408)

Haha, you can argue with/against numbers all you want, you can shout from your rooftops, you will still be wrong. Try to apply your value of Pi to anything practical and you will see firsthand the disastrous results. For me, this is an asinine point as I won't be able to help you see clearly and I have already wasted enough of my time and must return to my Shakespere studies.

Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba (Post 431361)

Why are you so obsessed with Pi? Do you like Pi? What do you like to do with Pi? Do you think about Pi a lot?

Originally Posted by DerekB (Post 431374)

I simply saw something that I did not agree with.

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel (Post 431427)

Speaking of wasting time...Why are you studying a dead brit queer? He didn't suffer and die (temporarily) on the cross for my sins.

Jesus did! :rtfm:

Originally Posted by Mr.DerekB (Post 439119)

He did have a hand in translating the KJV bible into english.

Originally Posted by Petal (Post 439942)

:blink: please someone tell me that this not be true, that Mr.Shakespeare not translates the bible cuz he woulda useds a quill pens an i not wants to thinks about what else he mite have tickleds wiv that quill, maybee even nawty ticklings :( an then he useds that same quills to writes lord God's name, an that woulds be a blasfeeemy! :angry2:

Originally Posted by tigepenala (Post 443319)

Oh dear I am very very sorry. I really should have searched for that pi thing before asking, but now I just don't understand how Satan could have corrupted pi, it is a value set in stone, as far as i see it.

:blowup:unless we always drew ovals and never circles back then, and the devil started making us draw circles, or why doesn't god change it back or something... my HEADS ganna ASPLODE

Originally Posted by Petal (Post 439942)

:blink: please someone tell me that this not be true, that Mr.Shakespeare not translates the bible cuz he woulda useds a quill pens an i not wants to thinks about what else he mite have tickleds wiv that quill, maybee even nawty ticklings :( an then he useds that same quills to writes lord God's name, an that woulds be a blasfeeemy! :angry2:

Originally Posted by True Disciple (Post 440091)

Don't worry, Sister Petal, this atheist once again has resorted to incoherent ramblings. The original language of the 1611 KJV is English, so it would be rather stupid to translate the KJV into English, when it already is English. No sodomized ink has ever reached the Holy Pages of the True Bible before it was finished!:)