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Default Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy - 08-19-2008, 10:19 PM

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I'm going to take a look at every group Jeb examines here and his claims about them.
You might want to try doing these things in smaller chunks. Brother Jeb is most profligate with his wisdom, and his thoughts could easily fill several books. I'm going to have to provide my answers in more digestible chunks:

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The claim that geologists have "hidden proof of a universal flood" is simply stabbing in the dark for some kind of scapegoat; demands for "proof" from those defending science cannot be taken seriously with claims like this being made.
What proof do you have that geologists don't have hidden proof of the flood?

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If someone could please explain to me how evolutionary biology violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics, that would be swell
You scientists claim that the increase in entropy in the Sun drives the processes of life on Earth. Of course, we know that's not true, because daylight existed before the Sun did, but let's go with your explanation. The Sun, so the astronmers tell us, formed from a vast, dispersed dust cloud that compacted into a dense ball. Pray tell, how does the contraction of a dust cloud into a dense ball not violate the Second Law?

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I am just a stupid physicist who can't seem to see that truth.
Yes, we know.

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these "invented" laws are allowing you to post on this message board
In what way would a varying decay rate of isotopes, a speed of light that changed over time, or the absence of refraction in atmospheric water droplets sufficient to create a rainbow possibly make it more difficult to use the Internet?

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Unless you live without any of these technological innovations, to renounce physics is hypocritical.
We don't denounce engineering physics. We denounce cosmology and radioactive dating because there is no direct evidence to support them.

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I reiterate my last point that all technological and scientific conveniences are direct products of application of the scientific method and peer reviewed journals
That's just a lie. In which peer reviewed journal did the idea for the microwave oven appear?

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The idea that the Hebrew word for "bird" encompassed all flying creatures certainly seems feasible, and does not contradict any zoological claims to a bat's taxonomic order.
Oh, Lord, are you dense. Are bees also birds? Are flying fish birds? Are fiery flying serpents birds?

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How can you explain the phenomenon of brain damage then?
We don't dispute that the senses are processed in the brain. But the soul, the part of you that thinks, is in the heart. People often experience cognitive disabilities after suffering a heart attack. You don't see severe cognitive impairment in heart trauma because any force sufficiently strong to damage the heart that much would kill a person.

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Also, under the idea that the brain is used for cooling the body (an archaic idea believed by the ancient Greeks before the advent of modern medicine)
Where did Brother Jeb say that?

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Have any of these "little things" ever fallen to Earth and been documented?
Of course not. God put them in the Firmament of Heaven, they're only going to fall when the goat knocks them off of the sky at the End of Times.

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The existence, life cycles, and behaviors of stars is well documented; trying to deny it would be akin to denying that gravity exists.
OK, please provide the details on the life cycle of Polaris B. For example, in what year did it first start shining? Astronomers are not real good with details.

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the shrinking of the longitudinal length of the Pacific Ocean has been being observed for many years.
How much, exactly, did it shrink last year? Does it shrink by the same amount every year? If not, then why do you think the rate of decay of radioactive isotopes hasn't changed in the last 6,000 years?

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Your outline of Creationist thought is enlightening in understanding this conflict, though there is a big difference between believing and knowing.
Kind of like how physicists knew that the speed of light was infinite before Maxwell?

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Additionally, describing scientists as cannibals of aborted fetuses is extremely juvenile and severely hampers the little credibility your arguments have in the first place.
To ignore the fact that fully formed babies are vacuumed into tiny pieces, inch by agonizing inch, without anesthetic is extremely juvenile, yet that's exactly what the pro choicers do.

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Where in the Bible does it claim that Pi is exactly 3?
Also he made a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round in compass, and five cubits the height thereof; and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. 2 Chronicles 4:2

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The fact that this is being disputed is pretty ridiculous. Get yourself a 1 yard piece of string, and make a circle out of it.
Why bother, God already did this experiment for us, and the answer was 3.000.

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As far as I can tell, no specific creatures are ever mentioned in Genesis.
It's exactly that kind of slipshod research that's the reason we don't trust physicists:

Adder Genesis 49:17
Ass Genesis 12:16, 32:15, 42:26, 49:11, 49:14
Camel Genesis 12:16, 24:64, 30:43, 31:17
Cattle Genesis 12:16
Dove Genesis 8:8, 8:10
Dragon Genesis 1:21
Goat Genesis 15:9, 27:9, 30:35, 31:38, 31:10, 31:12, 32:14
Kine Genesis 41:18
Lion 49:9
Mule Genesis 36:24
Ox Genesis 12:16, 34:28
Pigeon Genesis 15:9
Raven Genesis 8:7
Sea Monster Genesis 1:21
Sheep Genesis 4:4, 15:9, 22:13, 31:19
Wolf 49:27



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