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Originally Posted by Sword of the Spirit
Aye. Perhaps a direct approach is too confrontational.
Here's a more conversational approach. I think that you guys are actual Christians, only that you're a bit legalistic on your views. Hey, I'm okay with that, it's just that I think that you're complicating God's grace. (I can already feel the counter-arguments...) Jesus' opponents were almost always the Pharisees, who wanted to make sure that the law was followed to the letter and so overlooked many of Jesus' miracles.
The old testament contains many truths, but I believe that the core bits of our (yes, you and me) theology should come from the new testament, as it is what deals with us specifically. Yes I know that Jesus came to fulfill the law, as Paul says, "I am not free from God's law, but am under Christ's law". However, if we just point fingers at people and follow the Bible to the letter, we may find ourselves overlooking the true miracle of God.
The Bible is just a book. Granted, it's the book of God inspired and God-breathed, but if we really want to get somewhere, we can look at the book for information, or we can go to the source. "If anyone lacks wisdom, let him go to God who is the source of wisdom."
I may simply be considered 'the straw man' on this forum, but the one who made me calls me his friend.
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Friend, I will not try to confuse you with scripture as obviously, it has all gone right over your head.
The Bible, is a collection of how to Live according to God. In it, it states you must follow the Bible to be in His good graces and go to Heaven. Simple. No where in the Bible does it say 'Old Testament - Optional' or 'Deuteronomy - OK to Skip'. You have to follow all of it. If you think parts are wrong, you need to work that out with God. You, as one of His children, do not have the right to pick and choose what parts to follow, only He has that right. Failure to do as He commands means you are not a True Christian™, plain and simple. It was done this way so even stupid people could understand it. Do you need any clarification?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.