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Originally Posted by Louise1987
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No, to point 2)
I happen to be an atheist. I can explain what we think, if you like. Personally I am an agnostic atheist, meaning I believe in god when I see undisputable proof of god's existence. Currently religion is subjecte and a feeling and those who doesn't feel religious aren't, obiously
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Nonsense. God is an objective fact. He just exists. Just because you don't feel like acknowledging the truth doesn't make it any less true.
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Atheists aren't worse than muslims or christians. There are many of each behind bars. Take catholism who has done much harm to children.
I think we can all agree that is terrible.
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Yes, atheists, muslims and Catholics are all equally hell-bound. Correct.
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To explain why I'M an atheist I will give you an example.
When you look at a rainbow and see the beauty in it... it's undeniable. It's beautiful. I, as an atheist, wondered (and I hope most people wonder) how the rainbow function.
Splitting the rainbow apart doesn't make it ugly. I can be very poetic about it, as a whole, but when I "split it up" to find out what makes a rainbow and disovered light. I found out how light travels through space, how it makes our sky blue due to molecules and how, when it hits the rainbows, it splits the light into different colours, like you can prove with a prism if you hold it up to the light.
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Factually incorrect.
Genesis 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
Rainbows are a special promise from God. He created them to remind us of the time He killed almost everything on earth and of His promise that next time He kills everything in the world, He won't use water to do it.
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As with crime. Atheists are not worse than religious people.
Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I don't have moral. I don't kill people or hurt other people. I don't see the productivity in being cruel, really I don't.
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See? You don't refrain from cruel behaviour because it's wrong, you do it because you can't see how it benefits you. If Christopher Hitchens made a graph telling you to do so, you'd stab your own mother in the eye.
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We have exactly the same morals as religious, you, do, the reason behind the just differ. You get yours from the bible, possibly, we get ours from what is logical.
Killing is illogical. Thieving is stupid.
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Not if you get away with it.
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Being cruel to others is stupid. Hurting children is stupid, animals, whatever.
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If someone clever made an argument as to why it's a clever thing to do, you'd do it. You have no real moral code beyond what's convenient.
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So we might hide behind our atheism, but we could say the same to you. You pray, but without proven effect. Why pray and not just be active. Give money or something.
If I lay in a hospital bed I'd rather have the doctor operate on me than pray for me.
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If I had a sinful soul, I'd rather wash it in Christ's blood than have a doctor operate on it.
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And no, we don't pretend to believe in God.
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No, you pretend to not believe in God. That's possibly even worse.
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Originally Posted by Louise1987
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How can you even comment when you haven't read what I wrote? If you stopped at atheist you've read one line.
I read ALL yours, despite not agreeing with you. If you wish to comment, how about you read what I wrote first?
And sweetheart, you mentioned George W. Bush, but honey, even *I* know that the US constitution talks about the right to free speech and religious freedom. That means believing in Islam, Christinanity, Norse Gods and whatever.
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The Bible doesn't, though.
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I gues this is all pretty pointless to write as you probably only read the title SUV
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I read it all. I still don't understand why you hate God so much.
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Originally Posted by Louise1987
Apparently I cannot "Reply" to private messages.
I'd like to point out I didn't add my mail for dating, but more as a "we have a common idea, I'd like to talk more about it". And since I can't mail through THIS place, because I've yet to be varified, I added my mail, so this is actually your own fault.
Let me reply to mail and send mails and I shan't add my mail anywhere...
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