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Originally Posted by Gabriel Reproba
Isn't that beautiful? God so loves women that he commands their husbands to punish them even if the husband will be persecuted and punished, even killed, for doing so!
SHOUT GLORY AND PASS THE ROD!
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Your handling of scripture is not only laughable but blasphemous. Absolutely wretched how you molested Ephesians 5:25 to say a husband should beat his wife even if the authorities come after him. Fool, in those days in that culture ALL MEN regardless of faith beat their wives and no one gave a damn! Christ showed us we were wrong and we see His shining example of gentleness and compassion with PROSTITUTES. Husbands are, like Christ, to DIE TO SELF, at times giving up things out of love for our wives as Christ gave up life out of love for His church! How do you not see that?
Oh, right... because you are a misogynistic woman-hater. And you pervert God's Word to justify yourself. Repent now because "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also", and your misguided understanding of the Word has led you into a false faith and thus, false works (or at the very least, proposition of beating your wife). Thin ice, friend.
As well, your mishandling of Hebrews 14:3 to justify forcing your wife into any sexual act is disgusting and defies the very heart of God. Anything that is unnatural, unhealthy, unsanitary, uncomfortable, undesirable, is thus UNLOVING. Regardless of whether both parties wish to partake in a certain act, it may still be something God would consider an abomination which he never intended our bodies for. "Wives submit to your husbands" in conjunction with the already mentioned 'husbands, dying to self for their wives" means a healthy sexual relationship of give and take. Forcing someone into a sexual act proves you are devoid of love. "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love" 1 John 4:8
Lastly, we are not GOD, and the wife's submission to her husband as unto God means that she is to trust God and submit, understanding that He is sovereign and in control. Therefore, the husband should be right with God AND HAVE A RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORD, so that HE IS WALKING IN STEP WITH THE SPIRIT and making wise, holy choices. Doubtfully something you understand or do. Thus her submission to her husband is akin to submitting to God. In the event that her husband is unwise, if her council (Gen 2:18, she is a helpmeet) is not agreed upon, she trusts that the Lord will guide the circumstances around that of her husbands foolish decisions, OR correct HIM.
The discipline talked about is that of "WASHING IN THE WORD" meaning studying the bible correctly with her so the Holy Spirit can work in her life. Obviously something you can not be trusted to do. Do I ever pity your wife and your daughters and any other woman you come into contact with...
Shame on you. I pray you appreciate this rebuke from a godly, discerning man, who is faithful to the LORD and His Word.
Note: You may wish to read Ezekiel 36:26 and John 3:3.... Hell is an awful place and you won't get their with a stone-cold, unregenerate heart. Read 1 John 5, if you are not too obstinate and proud.