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Default Re: How Do I get Saved? A Guide for the Lost! - 10-14-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob4God


2. Is it enough just to believe in JESUS?


No!


JESUS, being the ultimate manifestation of love and justice, says that if we really care about Him at all, we will do everything He says:


If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15


You can learn more about what GOD's rules are for His people by reading the entire Bible all the way through.
I do not agree with your works-salvation. Ephesians 2:8-9 states: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. We are saved by grace through faith, otherwise we could boast of our good works. There will be no one who ever stands before Jesus who will say, "Jesus, what you did on the cross was great, but it was not enough to deliver me. Thank Goodness I kept the commandments, too!"


Sinners cannot contribute to the finished work that Christ did on the cross. We are not saved by faith in the Son of God AND keeping the commandments. The very reason that Jesus had to die on the cross was because we could not keep the commandments. Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, had to pay our sin-debt because we were without hope: Israel proved through thousands of years and thousands of animal sacrifices for sin that we could not keep the commandments.


2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 states that God has chosen us to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. Our righteousness comes from faith in the Son of God. Romans 10:4 states: For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.


If we love God, we will attempt to keep His commandments, but ultimately we will fail, as Israel demonstrated in the Old Testament. Out of love we will attempt to please God by keeping His commandments, but if the attempt to keep His commandments is motivated by anything other than love, then it is the act of someone trying to earn salvation through good works. Should we do good works? Yes. Should we be obedient to God? Yes. But should we trust in our obedience and good works PLUS faith in the Son of God to earn us salvation? No.


Perhaps I misunderstand the Holy Scriptures, please demonstrate the verses that state that faith in what the Son of God did on the cross was not sufficent alone for salvation.




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Mr. Prairie Brian Boss Schrader, does not your bible contain the verses following (the 1611 King James Bible does)?
James 2:17-18 --Euen so faith, if it hath not works, is dead being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I haue workes: shew mee thy faith without thy workes, and I will shew thee my faith by my workes.
James 2:24 -- Ye see then, how that by workes a man is iustified, and not by faith only.
Matthew 7:21 -- Not euery one that saith vnto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdome of heauen: but he that doth the will of my father which is in heauen.
Now just what do you think good works means? Well we have the following verse:
Matthew 25:34-46 -- Then shall the King say vnto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdome prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was an hungred, and yee gaue me meate: I was thirstie, and ye gaue me drinke: I was a stranger, and ye tooke me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sicke, and yee visited me: I was in prison, and ye came vnto me. Then shal the righteous answere him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fedde thee? or thirstie, and gaue thee drinke? When saw wee thee a stranger, and tooke thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sicke, or in prison, and came vnto thee? And the King shall answere, and say vnto them, Uerely I say vnto you, in as much as ye haue done it vnto one of the least of these my brethren, ye haue done it vnto me. Then shall he say also vnto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into euerlasting fire, prepared for the deuill and his angels. For I was an hungred, and yee gaue me no meat: I was thirstie, and ye gaue me no drinke: I was a stranger, and yee tooke me not in: naked, and ye clothed mee not: sicke, and in prison, and yee visited me not. Then shall they also answere him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sicke, or in prison, and did not minister vnto thee? Then shall he answere them, saying, Uerely, I say vnto you, in as much as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall goe away into euerlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternall.


YiJC, BS

II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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