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I just wonder; Why on earth does so many christians belive blindly in a book probably written by a random guy who was not at all influenced in any way by God? I need sufficient proof (wich I seem to never get no matter how hard i try to look) before I start following this book.

Also, why are you so sure your's is the "one true religion"? There's hundreds, if not thousands of other religions out there. And many of them have just as much proof (if not more) as the christian one.

BTW: Please don't just ignore my question and ban me. I just want to see if any of you have a reasonable answer
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I just wonder; Why on earth does so many christians belive blindly in a book probably written by a random guy who was not at all influenced in any way by God? I need sufficient proof (wich I seem to never get no matter how hard i try to look) before I start following this book.
But it wasn't written by a random guy not at all influenced by God in any way! It was written by many, many people who had no knowledge of each other, separated by many, many miles and even centuries! And yet, everything in the Holy Bible is consistent - it is truly One Story - the Story of Redemption.

You see, the Bible tells us that we have all sinned; we have all committed evil acts (Romans 3:10-18). Because God is perfect and the ultimate in Goodness (Psalm 100:5; Psalm 106:1; Psalm 107:1; Psalm 135:3; 1 Chronicles 16:34; ), he is disgusted and enraged at our sinfulness. Essentially, He can’t stand us, and because He is God, He doesn’t have to because no one can make Him. He has decided that we deserve nothing less than eternal torture, and pain, and agony for having made a perfect God uncomfortable with the way we are not similarly perfect. The only appropriate punishment for sins committed against an infinite and eternal God is an infinite and eternal punishment (Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:11-15). This is why God created Hell. It’s only fair after all.

But check it out, Jesus Christ came to earth and died in our place! He didn’t have to do so, but He chose to do so. Jesus and God worked out The Ultimate Plan (2 Corinthians 5:21) because they’re pretty tight, being the Same Person (John 10:30), yet Different Persons (John 17:1). This plan was decided some time before we were ever born. It doesn’t really matter, since we probably wouldn’t have been consulted anyway, but They/He decided that Jesus would die temporarily to pay the penalty for our sins (Romans 5:8) so that God could forget all about them (Isaiah 65:17; Isaiah 43:25). Jesus paid the penalty He determined He (as God) required just so that we would not have to. Wasn’t that sweet?!?

Jesus' resurrection from the dead just goes to show that His death was sufficient to pay the penalty for our sins. No mere human could have done that, thus proving Jesus is the one and only Savior (John 14:6; Acts 4:12)!

Now, if I were to offer advice, I would suggest you start reading the Holy Bible, all of it. We know that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17). So to be safe, perhaps you should read the Holy Bible out loud so you can also hear it. Then you will have faith, and then you can be Saved©!
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I just wonder; Why on earth does so many christians belive blindly in a book probably written by a random guy who was not at all influenced in any way by God? I need sufficient proof (wich I seem to never get no matter how hard i try to look) before I start following this book.

Also, why are you so sure your's is the "one true religion"? There's hundreds, if not thousands of other religions out there. And many of them have just as much proof (if not more) as the christian one.

BTW: Please don't just ignore my question and ban me. I just want to see if any of you have a reasonable answer
There are just so many reasons. We serve a risen Saviour. We know that He's living (whatever the secularist may say). We see His hand of mercy, hear His voice of cheer and at just the times we need Him He's always near. In all the world around us we see His loving care and although our hearts may grow weary we never despair. We know that He's leading through all the stormy blast and that the day of His appearing will come (everything else He has promised has come to pass and He has promised this). That is why we rejoice, as Christians. We lift up our voices and sing Ćternal Hallelujahs to Jesus Christ the King! He is the hope of all who seek Him, the help of all who find. No-one else is so loving, so good and so kind.

I can personally testify that He lives! Christ Jesus lives today. (How could that be if He had not risen from the dead? And how could He have died if He had not been alive in the first place?) He walks with me and talks with me along life's narrow way; He imparts Salvation. Yet you ask how I know He lives (and I am happy to answer you)? He lives within my heart!

It is because all the prophecy concerning Jesus is fulfilled in Christ that we are assured of Scripture's accuracy. Many prophecies are being fulfilled in the world right now. Christianity is under attack. But Jesus' promise is our hope and we do not need to examine life for it to be worth living. Hallelujah!

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It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

See, easy

No, it's called being an idiot who think blind faith will allow a stupid sky wizard to help your "soul" which doesn't exist to no burn in a place that also does not exist. Good job on being a gullible fool.

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It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

See, easy
By your logic, it's true because it says so. I could write this:

"Baboons are actually bananas. This is the absolute truth."

And by your logic tht is true, when we all know that it is a ridiculous statement.
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By your logic, it's true because it says so. I could write this:

"Baboons are actually bananas. This is the absolute truth."

And by your logic tht is true, when we all know that it is a ridiculous statement.
But the Holy Bible doesn't say that baboons are bananas. It says that snakes can talk! BIG DIFFERENCE!

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You're missing the point. The logic was that "The Bible is true because it says it's true."

That is an incredible fallacy of logic because just because a book asserts you that it is true, that does not make it true.
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There are just so many reasons. We serve a risen Saviour. We know that He's living (whatever the secularist may say). We see His hand of mercy, hear His voice of cheer and at just the times we need Him He's always near. In all the world around us we see His loving care and although our hearts may grow weary we never despair. We know that He's leading through all the stormy blast and that the day of His appearing will come (everything else He has promised has come to pass and He has promised this). That is why we rejoice, as Christians. We lift up our voices and sing Ćternal Hallelujahs to Jesus Christ the King! He is the hope of all who seek Him, the help of all who find. No-one else is so loving, so good and so kind.

I can personally testify that He lives! Christ Jesus lives today. (How could that be if He had not risen from the dead? And how could He have died if He had not been alive in the first place?) He walks with me and talks with me along life's narrow way; He imparts Salvation. Yet you ask how I know He lives (and I am happy to answer you)? He lives within my heart!

It is because all the prophecy concerning Jesus is fulfilled in Christ that we are assured of Scripture's accuracy. Many prophecies are being fulfilled in the world right now. Christianity is under attack. But Jesus' promise is our hope and we do not need to examine life for it to be worth living. Hallelujah!


How do you know that he rose? Huh?

Your "evidence" is literally a 2000 year-old book that says "And he died, but came back to life. Believe me, this is the 100% truth."
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God is NOT real, you evil Christians! How could you say that such a crazy thing like God could actually exist! If he exists, where does he live, huh? In the sky? Dummy, only birds live up there! And even farther than that? In space? You guys are actually idiots if you believe that God can live in the sky or in space. When I die, I'm just going to rot in the ground like everybody should, as opposed to going to live some more with some old dude that's probably fat. You guys are absolute idiots. It's also wrong for you to push your ideas on people like you do, daily. Richard Dawkins would be ashamed.
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God is NOT real, you evil Christians! How could you say that such a crazy thing like God could actually exist! If he exists, where does he live, huh? In the sky? Dummy, only birds live up there! And even farther than that? In space?
God is everywhere -- in heaven, in hell, over the sea and in the darkness.

Ps 139:7-12
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.


But He is invisible.

Col 1:15 [Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

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We rejoice when you vilify us. You have blessed us greatly. Jesus promises that one day, because of your cruel words, we will have a great reward in heaven.

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10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


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They're not our ideas; they're God's. All our ideas come from the Bible.

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Probably, but why should we care what some English atheist thinks of us? Now why don't you introduce yourself properly?
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God is NOT real, you evil Christians! How could you say that such a crazy thing like God could actually exist! If he exists, where does he live, huh? In the sky? Dummy, only birds live up there! And even farther than that? In space? You guys are actually idiots if you believe that God can live in the sky or in space. When I die, I'm just going to rot in the ground like everybody should, as opposed to going to live some more with some old dude that's probably fat. You guys are absolute idiots. It's also wrong for you to push your ideas on people like you do, daily. Richard Dawkins would be ashamed.
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So what's your favoured perversion? Homosexuality, masturbation? What is it? The evidence for god is EVERYWHERE. All atheists know God exists, you just deny it so you can carry on with your perversion.

The Earth is perfectly designed for us. Humans have a 24 hour body clock, the Sun rotates around the Earth to match it perfectly. If the Sun took 30 hours to travel the firmament then after a while we would be going to bed at sunrise. It would be an utter mess. Perfect design from the perfect designer.

As Paul has told us, we can all see the wonder of His creation and you will be judged. Give up your masturbation and accept the gift of the blood of Jesus.

Romans 1:20 for the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

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The Earth is perfectly designed for us. Humans have a 24 hour body clock, the Sun rotates around the Earth to match it perfectly. If the Sun took 30 hours to travel the firmament then after a while we would be going to bed at sunrise. It would be an utter mess. Perfect design from the perfect designer.
Interesting assertion. Did humans exist before the Earth? Even in the Bible, that isn't the case. Humans have a 24 hour body clock because the Earth does. They evolved to do so. And so did every other animal that has a body clock at all. Plus, "the Sun rotates around the Earth"? Were you taught the fact that the Sun is the center of our SOLAR system?
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Interesting assertion. Did humans exist before the Earth? Even in the Bible, that isn't the case. Humans have a 24 hour body clock because the Earth does. They evolved to do so.
Don't be silly. You're trying to convince us humans evolved a 24 hour clock in two days! If humans can evolve that quickly, why don't busy mothers have three arms yet?



And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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So the basis of proof here is "the bible said so."

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If you really want to confuse atheists, give some proof from OUTSIDE the bible.
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So the basis of proof here is "the bible said so."
Friend, if you cannot believe God, who can you believe, the Easter Bunny?

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Just quoting you, sorry.

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Can I quote you on that?
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Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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So the basis of proof here is "the bible said so."

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If you really want to confuse atheists, give some proof from OUTSIDE the bible.

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So the basis of proof here is "the bible said so."...
Uh, yeah. It took you this long to notice?

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Is this your first time encountering religion?

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But then you'd have knowledge. God doesn't want that. He want you to have faith. If you can't accept that (or any other of God's 630+ commands and conditions), it's your choice to go to Hell.
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"Facts" always change. 200 years ago it was a "fact" that Man couldn't fly. Now it's a "fact" that we can.


God never changes.
Aaaand busted!!!!! You just conclusively proofed that the existence of god does not exhibit the same properties as a fact. Therefore existence of god is not a fact.
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