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Old 12-28-2012, 10:35 AM
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It's great to live in our world where science shows us how all the things we found weird or odd in God's word do make sense.

take Gen. 1 ——> what does "day" mean? some say [I]this[/I, some say that but when science looks at the stars we gain INSIGHT and know that DAY ONE was in fact BILLIONS of years.

We know that once there was no rain. There was a mist. When all that CONDENSED there was a FLOOD and so we could date NOAH from that.

But there was not a man on Earth then
Gen. 2 5,6 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
How did God know there were no men on Earth when there was a mist? or that light from the sun could not be seen on Earth until that mist had cleared? THEN there could be a bow in the cloud but NOT BEFORE. So that gives us a date.
Gen. 9 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

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It's great to live in our world where science shows us how all the things we found weird or odd in God's word do make sense.
You ignorant, closed-minded, uneducated, home-schooled, bigoted, ultra-conservative, fundamentalist Christian! Science does not prove the Bible! Stop trying to twist science to fit the Bible. The Genesis creation myth is purely allegorical, based on the Babylonian creation story, the Enuma Elish. The science class is not the place for religion. Religion is in the heart. We can still learn a lot from the creation myth, of course. But the Bible should be interpreted subjectively; it cannot withstand objective scrutiny.
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1. Grandma is in heaven now with Jesus.
2. God hates the sin but loves the sinner.
3. It's OK to be gay because Jesus never said one word about homosexuality.
4. My divorce is none of your business.
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4. My divorce is none of your business.
Of course. Why would a loving God want two people who no longer loved each other to remain together for life? That doesn't feel right to me, so it can't be what God meant. Also, you have to read the relevant Bible passages in the context of the way things were back then, when divorce could mean economic ruin for the wife. Today, women have more options.
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God is cool with that one think I want to do because I have really good reasons for doing it, and God understands that, under the circumstances, an exception should be made for me. I'll still get to heaven.
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"Jesus was an early socialist, He taught that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. He said "Blessed are the poor" and overturned the tables of the money changers. Today, Jesus would occupy wall street, fight for the poor and support Obama!"
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Yes, they own their own boats, run their own businesses, are employers (not employees) and Jesus is a successful woodworker and builder managing his own company (after the death of Joseph)
Jn 19 26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he kept loving standing there, he told his mother, "Dear lady, here is your son."
By this time He's taken over the family firm leaving Mary with no visible means of support
Matt. 13 55 This is the builder's son, isn't it? His mother is named Mary, isn't she? His brothers are James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas, aren't they?
The Magdalene inherits His wealth
Mk 16 9 After Jesus had risen early on the first day of that week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had driven out seven demons.
then He shape-shifts into the form we know today
Mk 16 12 After this, Jesus appeared in a different form to two disciples as they were walking into the country.
to babies He's a baby, to women He's a woman, to me He's a man - but He doesn't insist on that you just find Him where you are whether as our mother in heaven or our father or even as the child we create according to our daily needs
Mtt. 6 33,34 first be concerned about God's kingdom and his/her righteousness, and all of these things will be provided for you as well. So never worry about tomorrow, because tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
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That may be what the Bible says, but what it really means is...
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That may be what the Bible says, but what it really means is...
What the Pope says it does. End of.
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That may be what the Bible says, but what it really means is...
by pure coincidence, whatever I wanted to believe anyway.
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Yes, of course I've read the whole Bible. Well, actually, I just half-remember a few bits from the Sunday school that I attended for a few years, but that's essentially the same thing as having read the whole Bible, right?
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Yes, of course I've read the whole Bible. Well, actually, I just half-remember a few bits from the Sunday school that I attended for a few years, but that's essentially the same thing as having read the whole Bible, right?
We'd moved beyond Sunday "school" at our inclusive fellowship. The junior group explored contemporary issues and found the words to outline solutions we felt would be appropriate. Often we'd dress in costumes to enact out a story, one of the parables in a modern setting perhaps. That way we'd get to understand what Jesus really meant, or would have meant if he'd been alive today. Sometimes one of us would find a Bible passage that supported what we'd felt in the drama circle. But that wasn't encouraged - God directs our journey through feelings.
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Well when God said gays were an abomination... in fact was that what He really said... well as I remember it he didn't really say abomination as such, it was more like an advisory thing... No, the God I think of wouldn't have people killed for having gay sex, I mean, where's the harm? He really said they should be killed? Well I don't remember that bit and it doesn't sound like what I think Jesus is...
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Men and women are interchangeable. It says so in Galatians 3:28. What is this thing you call "context"?
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I'm right about what Christianity actually is, just because I say I am. Stop bullying me by asking me to prove it.
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I'm interested in morality. The bible reflect standards of the time by which light God's inner voice directed decisions in ancient times. Now we still have God's inner voice but the social standard has evolved into something even more beautiful. Cain was wrong to kill Abel and even though those archetypes are no longer appropriate, today we still know that it's wrong to kill people. God is also there for persons of different sexual identity and guides everyone's decisions by that same inner voice.

That is how divine reassurance reaches everyone, according to the mores of their respective societies. Alternative value systems are not "alternative" for God, whose love is universal and complete. If morality does not come from God where does it come from?

We should therefore be complete too.
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Hitting (punishing) your child is abuse!
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That example is evidence for God's inner voice. Without morality there would be no God. But we do have morality, and so we know the truth of God.
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I'm a Christian but I find great joy in attending my local Jewish temple. They focus on tikkun olam (heal the world), equality for women and justice for all people. Just like me!
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The Lord forgives everybody, homosexuality is not a sin, we can "change" the Bible to our heart's content and keep the parts we want and shove the rest down the drain! And all those destructions are totally not God's doing, it's just because of those bad, bad republicans! Praise Obama!
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