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I overheard some of the Professional Career Women talking in the office today. Apparently one of them is getting married and refuses to take her future husband's last name. Some of these other non-homeschoolled women suggested that she combines her last name with her husband's using a hyphen. One even suggested that they combined certain syllables and invent an entirely new last name!

I hate for this young lady to begin her marriage in such a non-subservient disrespectful manner. I would not be at all shocked if she even wear pants to her own wedding.

I also wonder what kind of man she is marrying. Is he some kind weak kneed sissy himself?

Both of their parents must be shamed!

I can hardly contain my concern but I'm not sure who bares the blame for this.

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Before a woman marries, she belongs to her father, and therefore carries his name.
Jeremiah 29:6 Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished
When she marries, she becomes the property of her husband, and must therefore carry his name.
Ephesians 5:22-23 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

A woman is no self-sufficient legal entity by herself, and therefore has no right to her own surname. That right belongs entirely to the man who owns her. For a man to allow her father's name to continue to be part of her name once they wed, is giving in to feminazi demands, and shows what a weak man he is.
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I think that her father should sue her for intellectual property theft.

It is HIS name, when she marries she loses the right to use it, furthermore it presents to the world false claims that she is still HIS responsibility. That femnazi must have some scam in mind....

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A woman should listen to her husband and do as he says. The Bible tells us so.

No where does the Bible tell us for a female to retain any connection to her life as an unwanted spinster.

Could you imagine a man telling his wife that he only wants to be a part time owner of her and he wants to share her with her old family?
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Could you imagine a man telling his wife that he only wants to be a part time owner of her and he wants to share her with her old family?
Time-sharing leads to bigamy.

Real property is the only TRUE CHRISTIAN approach to property.

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I pray any illegitimate children they may bear do not try to marry other illegitimate hyphenated kids.

Ecclesiastes 7 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.


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The way I see it, the ONLY time this might be acceptable is if the wife's father is enormously wealthy, has no son to carry on his name (either through having had an UnGodly wife who bore him only daughters, or through his sons dying in war or by accident) and if he is unreasonably making this a condition of leaving his wealth to his son-in-law.

In this case, Colossians 3:20 applies:

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

So a hyphenated surname might be acceptable here - although of course, once the wife's father is dead and the funds have been transferred, the couple should revert to the husband's name.

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The way I see it, the ONLY time this might be acceptable is if the wife's father is enormously wealthy, has no son to carry on his name (either through having had an UnGodly wife who bore him only daughters, or through his sons dying in war or by accident) and if he is unreasonably making this a condition of leaving his wealth to his son-in-law.

In this case, Colossians 3:20 applies:

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

So a hyphenated surname might be acceptable here - although of course, once the wife's father is dead and the funds have been transferred, the couple should revert to the husband's name.

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The monetary transaction is obviously Biblical but I do not see any justification of a unisexual hyphen.

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But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
I am sure you did not mean to contradict me, Frednekk, and so on this occasion I will forgive you. Had I wished to refer to Matthew 18:25, you may be sure that I would have done so.

Up until the completion of the marriage ceremony, a Godly woman owes obedience to her father and not her future husband. Colossians 3:20 is clear on this point. If her father wishes her to carry on his name - with or without one of these abominable hyphens - then she is bound to agree and to renege on that agreement during her father's lifetime would surely be not merely a sin, but economically foolhardy?

However, I feel that in these cases the solution is to combine the surnames, with the woman's father's name first, without the vile hyphen, as in Fotheringay Featherstonehaugh rather than the (frankly ludicrous) Fotheringay-Featherstonehaugh. The Fotheringay part can then be quietly dropped in everyday use, and take its rightful place as a middle name for the children.

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One of my own sisters (whom I talk to very little anymore, I avoid it) hyphenated her last name. Her wedding came before I saught out to be saved. How could a woman be so selfish and keep a name that no longer is hers?
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The world seems to be overpopulated with weak boys having no gumption towards actually being men. No wonder women have no idea how to behave.
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I fail to see why women need last names at all. A short simple name should be enough since her husband will have to scream it a lot to make clear to her what she did wrong this time. For some reason my wife's parents named her Bathsheba Jemimah Zipporah. While those are solid Christian names as they are mentioned in 2 Samuel 11:3, Job 42:14 and Exodus 2:21, it takes too much time to repeat that over and over again until that woman finally completes a chore to my satisfaction. So instead I decided to call her zero. It took some beatings before she learned this was to be her new name, but now she responds very well to it. It's a short name that also reminds her over and over again that we are all worthless in the eyes of God. Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
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The way I see it, the ONLY time this might be acceptable is if the wife's father is enormously wealthy, has no son to carry on his name (either through having had an UnGodly wife who bore him only daughters, or through his sons dying in war or by accident) and if he is unreasonably making this a condition of leaving his wealth to his son-in-law.

In this case, Colossians 3:20 applies:

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

So a hyphenated surname might be acceptable here - although of course, once the wife's father is dead and the funds have been transferred, the couple should revert to the husband's name.

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I am sure you did not mean to contradict me, Frednekk, and so on this occasion I will forgive you. Had I wished to refer to Matthew 18:25, you may be sure that I would have done so.

Up until the completion of the marriage ceremony, a Godly woman owes obedience to her father and not her future husband. Colossians 3:20 is clear on this point. If her father wishes her to carry on his name - with or without one of these abominable hyphens - then she is bound to agree and to renege on that agreement during her father's lifetime would surely be not merely a sin, but economically foolhardy?

However, I feel that in these cases the solution is to combine the surnames, with the woman's father's name first, without the vile hyphen, as in Fotheringay Featherstonehaugh rather than the (frankly ludicrous) Fotheringay-Featherstonehaugh. The Fotheringay part can then be quietly dropped in everyday use, and take its rightful place as a middle name for the children.

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My husband strongly enforces we only give our children first and middle names upon their last. But he often puts numbers upon the kids to keep them in a more civil order.
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My husband strongly enforces we only give our children first and middle names upon their last. But he often puts numbers upon the kids to keep them in a more civil order.
This is shrewd unless you have more than 665 kids.
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Default Re: Marriage: Are Hyphenated Last Names Godly?

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Originally Posted by Attila's Wife View Post
The way I see it, the ONLY time this might be acceptable is if the wife's father is enormously wealthy, has no son to carry on his name (either through having had an UnGodly wife who bore him only daughters, or through his sons dying in war or by accident) and if he is unreasonably making this a condition of leaving his wealth to his son-in-law.

In this case, Colossians 3:20 applies:

Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

So a hyphenated surname might be acceptable here - although of course, once the wife's father is dead and the funds have been transferred, the couple should revert to the husband's name.

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There is a precedent. Queen Victoria was not in penury as far as I'm aware owning a goodly chunk of the world and milking it for all she was worth. Well, that is what she was worth. Yet when she married she took her husband's name: in that capacity she was Mrs Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

Admittedly that is a triple-barrelled name but a far cry from O'Shannessy-Mbongo.

What happened next? Well, things chugged along OK, Edward VII kept his father's name, married a Danish princess, dressed modestly (for an Anglican), enjoyed manly sporting activities and stuff. Until for some reason it was decided to drop that moniker and switch to Mountbatten-Windsor.

Now admittedly this is better than Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg but regardless of whether subsequent progeny adopted their father's or mother's surname there seems to have been a migration away from horse racing, cigars and other associated activities, towards communication with daffodils, petunias and for all I know nasturtiums (which do make a rather zippy soufflé, excellent served with gin).

I think we all know what I'm referring to.

At once we realize that dashing princes nevertheless are possible. Out there in Afghanistan fighting the dreadful musselman, yomping o'er hill and dale, wearing his father's name with pride nasturtiums notwithstanding. Harry Windsor is good enough for him and didn't he do well in Jamaica recently? Excellent historical sensibilities in fancy dress, manly activities well to fore.

I'm not offering any sort of opinion here you understand, but moving from the quadruple-barrelled to the triple-barrelled (her husband's) surnames, then on to the double-barrelled (with some intrusion of the female line) replete with floral dialogue and back to the simple patrilineal does seem to track quite specific behaviours. And on the plus side I must point out that none of these greenhouse flowers seem risk averse.

We do need an elite, after all.
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