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Old 02-08-2014, 07:43 PM
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That is a shame, dear. Do you have any older brothers, uncles, or a trusted preacher who could administer a Biblical correction as needed?

Thank you for the kind welcome and sadly, I am the eldest child and my parents don't go to church, if only there was a way I could punish myself for my wrong doings
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...if only there was a way I could punish myself for my wrong doings
Oh, but there is! It's called "guilt". It's not physical, just emotional, pain, self-inflicted (mothers can help start it, but you have to take it from there yourself), and you can do it whenever you think you've done something that makes you feel good (or not as awful as you really should feel for offending God by simply breathing His air without praising His name constantly).
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Thank you for the kind welcome and sadly, I am the eldest child and my parents don't go to church, if only there was a way I could punish myself for my wrong doings
Ew, then you would be just like the papists who believe if they administer suffering to themselves, they will spend less time in purgatory.

The LORD will correct the penitent sinner, dear. You may find yourself late for class because of bad weather, a shoelace that breaks, or perhaps impregnated against your will. If that is the case, rejoice for the LORD rebukes those He loves!

My son, do not despise the chastening of the LORD, nor detest His correction;
For whom the LORD loves He corrects, just as a father the son in whom he delights.
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Default Re: Hitting children... "Abuse"? No. Encouragement? Yes.

You all beat your kids? Are you out of your minds?! That's abuse! That's disgusting behavior, shame on all of you!
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...shame on all of you!
Oh, no, some heathen disapproves. Whatever shall they do?

Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."

Great job reinforcing their delusion.
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You all beat discipline your kids? Are you out of your minds?! That's abuse! That's disgusting behavior, shame on all of you!
I know, how awful for a liberal lesbian to understand: children need loving instruction so they don't get hurt, hurt others, or become a giant pain in the neck to civil society.
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Beat? No
Interact in a loving and physical manner, yes.

Learning is achieved after a single mistake. Twice means a child is ornery and does not have its' mind right so correct measures must be applied. Any parent that does not do this does not love their child.

Never abandon a child, no matter the level of demon infestation. Show them you care, get involved.
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Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
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I know there is an ultimate creator.

I know that this entity of immeasurable power has a great affection for his creation.

God says in this book you're reading through one of the apostles that we should obey the law of our government, as long as it does not break his laws.

I read something on the top of this thread. It greatly disturbed me.

Anyway you say it, what you (you know who you are) have done is defined by the word MURDER.

An infant human being cries because it is the absolute only method they have to communicate to their caretakers. I am in disbelief.

Another thing... beating your son into submission to make him godly?

I understand and implement rudimentary discipline with my precious daughter, but I'll be absolutely honest. I am a skilled individual and if anyone were to lay a hand on my daughter, it would be multiplied back upon them one hundred fold.

I know it won't change how you all categorize and brandish me on here, but I will say this. I respect and acknowledge your right to follow whatever you think or have been told will save you from hell.

Because that's what this is all about.
Don't lie to yourselves.
Fear is effective for manifesting control.

It is impossible to follow both covenants, old and new. Read your King James Bibles. Read where Jesus came and changed everything. Read ALL OF IT, NOT JUST THE PARTS YOU LIKE.

At the end of Revelation. Read that one again.

My daughter and I have a phenomenal relationship and she is very perceptive to me as her father and provider. She has a good temperament and is obedient and sweet. She knows there is a God who loves her.

It is not anyone's job to tell others how to live. Read your bibles. Look for it. It's there.

God is focused on what YOU do with his son Jesus Christ.

Now; throw your labels on me. Cast your insults and judgements. I've seen them on here. But there is no glory in persecution if you return it. Jesus turned his cheek.

I'm done here.

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*** blah blah blah *** Read where Jesus came and changed everything. *** blah blah blah ***
Oh, this part?

(Matthew 5:17) "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

That's Jesus talking. Don't you even think about coming in here and telling me about the Bible, boy.



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Oh LOOK, another fluffy bunny liberal "Christian" who tells us the Old Testament is no longer valid. Nonsense. Even the hellbound Jehovah Witless's know the OT is still valid.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

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Show me where in the bible it says that insulting others is glorifying to God.
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(Psalms 2:1-5) "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure."

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(Psalms 2:1-5) "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure."

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Yes, but you are not THE LORD.
We are commanded to be like unto Him.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

What is you problem with Christians?

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Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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My problem is the murder of children.
Justify it.

Banning me will not stop me from contacting your local law enforcement and taking it so far as to destroy your website by use of the authorities.

I am simply asking questions.
As a master of this particular topic, I am being educated.
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Banning me will not stop me from contacting your local law enforcement and taking it so far as to destroy your website by use of the authorities.
Do you realize this surveillance of this site is provided by the Freehold City Police? My staff is, "your local law inforcement".

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For ages evil lieberals have used their twisted satanic logic to persuade good people from hitting their kids. They have used all manner of evil propaganda, everything from movies, to newspaper articles, to public service announcements. I'm here to tell you that this is not true. Beating your kids is perhaps one of the only ways to get a message across to a small child. You see, what scientists won't tell you is that a child's brain is not as developed, and therefore will not understand if you "ask them nicely" not to do something. For example, let's say your child breaks your favorite crucifix. While you could probably just get a new one, and if you are a real Christian you no doubt have more, you need your child to know that he/she has done you wrong. What would a lieberal do? Give them a prissy, politically correct "talking to"... This does nothing. Your kid is most likely too stupid to understand what you are saying, and even if they did, they probably wouldn't remember. However, no matter how old you are, you've got to understand a physical punishment. Even Godless animals understand that they have done wrong when you hurt them. Also, your kids will ALWAYS remember NOT to do it again, because they have scars and bruises to remind them of it.

Most of you probably know how beneficial it can be to beat your children. However there can be enormous side affects from NOT BEATING YOUR KIDS! The following are just a few side effects that lieberals won't tell you

1. Neglecting to beat your kid will make him gay.
It is a known fact that homersexuality is a choice. Of course you will meet godless mormons who say different, but who needs them. So why would your kid decide to be a dirty homer? It could be because you never enforced discipline onto him. See, if your father beats you as a child, you will always be afraid of him, the way God intended. However, if you give him the impression that you accept him and that you love him either way, he will get all kinds of sick ideas into his head. I have seen it happen over and over again. I know my children will never turn to Satan, because they know I will beat the life out of them if they do.

2. Not being beaten can lead to being a criminal.
Why do you think people do criminal things? Why do they steal? Why do they rape? Why do they murder? It's because when they were a child, they would misbehave and not be corrected. You see, not being beaten can scar kids for life. They will forever think you don't care enough to hit them. They will also grow up thinking that they can do whatever their little sinning hearts desire and not face the back of your hand.

2. Children who are not beaten grow up weak.
Let's say that your kid grows up and joins the army. Fortunately, you beat him often, giving him only enough time between beatings for his blood to dry. When he ships off into Iraq, he will be ready for anything. Having been raised on pain, he will be ready to deal with the cruelty of the non-believers. Now let us say that another child was raised by a lieberal, and was not beaten. Pain will be a NEW THING to him, and he will be killed in the first minute. Do you really want this happening to your offspring?

Not sure how to get started? Here's a helpful guide

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat

^This is a good article to read if you are a beginner at beating your kids. For those of you too lazy to click the link, here are the highlights of the page.

"-Five across the eyes: This is a very basic maneuver and usually enough to cover most situations when your child is out of line. Simply put four fingers tightly together and either leave the thumb off to the side or fold it behind the other four fingers. Then smack your kid across the face with the back of your hand. Now this is the tricky part: make sure to snap your wrist just before contact otherwise you won't get a stinging effect. Very important because you don't want to risk letting your kid think you're a pussy.

-The sucker punch: Just ask the question "hey, what's that on your shirt?" and when they look down, bust their lip. You need to do this every now and then to keep them guessing. Don't ever let them off the hook. Just because they're not doing anything wrong doesn't mean that they didn't do something wrong earlier that you weren't aware of.

-The yard stick: Or for those of you who don't use the arbitrary American system, this is also known as "the meter stick." This is a good general purpose beating because the stick usually doesn't last beyond three or four good whacks--usually enough to send the message.

-The one-two shut-the-hell-up: This is priceless when you're shopping and your kid won't shut the hell up: "I'm hungry, I want toys, I need my Insulin..." etc. First smack your kid (the 5 across the eyes technique works). Wait a few seconds for your kid to start crying, then smack your kid again to let him know that you mean business. This usually shuts them up because they see that the amount of crying is proportional to the amount of beatings.

-The 2 x 4 / PVC pipe: If you do your job as a parent, this should never have to be administered. This is for heavy duty jobs only (ie. any time your kid comes home and begins a sentence with "she might be pregnant..." or "I can if I want to..." where the blank can be any of the following: smoke, have sex, experiment with drugs, watch Oprah, etc). Usually the threat of this beating is enough to keep your kid from screwing up.

-The Dragon Kick: If you're interested in a permanent solution to your child giving you lip about washing the dishes, cleaning his or her room or filing your tax return, then the Dragon kick might be the technique for you. I guarantee that you will only have to ask once after the Dragon kick has been administered.

-The skull thump: A quick blow usually dealt to the side or back of the head. Simply flick them in the head with your finger. An alternative is to smack your child up side the head with your palm. Very useful for teaching your child to read when he or she makes a mistake. Hitting your child when he or she is learning builds confidence, or undermines confidence--I can't remember which.

-The one-handed chauffeur reach around: A quick reach around while you're driving to smack your kid and his friends too if they disrespect. Swerve the car back and forth for the full effect.

-The cane intercept: If you're too old to chase your kid around the house, use the handle of your cane to trip him if he tries to get away. When he gets up, poke him in the head a few times to let him know who's boss."

But what does the Bible have to say about all this?
It's on my side!

Proverbs 13:24
- He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes

Proverbs 23:13
- Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 29:15
- The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.

Sirach 30:1
- He that loveth his son causeth him oft to feel the rod, that
he may have joy of him in the end.

The Bible has a very clear guide to parenting. A father can benefit from the word of the Lord on this subject especially

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