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Love Jesus Earning God's love through FEAR: Exodus 3:14 - 09-24-2014, 10:32 AM

In the Bible every verse counts, every verse is Crystal Clear and precious. Yet some verses are also magnificent in isolation. The reader holds his breath, his heart is pounding and suddenly, a Glorious verse emerges that is life-changing, devastating, shattering.

For me, that verse is Exodus 3:14.



Let us examine this in detail.

Moses is questioning God. What is your name? How shall I address my brethren? Perhaps they will have suspicions of me, of you? I'm gonna need to tell them your name, you know!? This is bad, do they trust me? Come on - gimme something! God responds with power and might. "I AM that I AM!" A shattering exclamation. Moses probably wets his pants and loses all bowel control. I almost do so every time I read this verse. It is undoubtedly one of the key verses in the Bible.

This verse teaches us many pivotal things especially to our time of widespread opposition to Biblical truths. Nothing has changed since Moses. False Christians, atheist scholars and heathen are doing it all over again. Always questioning. Even worse, lieberal denominations are discarding all that this verse encompasses in favor of a lukewarm caricature of God. It is all about "love" nowadays. "God loves everybody". "A loving God would not do that". Still negotiating with God, giving God attributes that are not totally fallacious but forgetting what God is all about.

FEAR. TOTAL SUBMISSION. NO QUESTIONS!

I AM THAT I AM. God cannot be described by a name in the same manner as we can. He is beyond simplifications. I AM THAT I AM. God is WHAT HE IS. He does what he does. Our only way to influence His wrath is to pray and obey and follow His Word.
Deuteronomy 6:2
That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
Deuteronomy 6:13

Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
Deuteronomy 6:24
And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
Deuteronomy 8:6

Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.
I AM THAT I AM. A fearsome roar from the Heavens. Fear. The key to God's Grace. God does what He pleases and we keep His commandments. Then love can also make an entrance. FEAR is primary. Love is only possible trough extreme ultimate fear. Total submission. Doing what God demands.
John 8:23
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
We are lowly creatures compared to Jesus, God. He is that He is.
Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
I AM THAT I AM. None is like God. Why should we even attempt to judge His doings and commands. God may do whatever He considers necessary. And He's gonna do it regardless of what we might have to say.
Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
I AM THAT I AM. If God decides to butcher, torture and destroy whole nations, their temples, women and children (e.g., Exodus 23:27, Exodus 34:13, 1 Samuel 15:3) is is for the GOOD. We may not understand it but so what?! We are perhaps not supposed to understand this violent nature of God. We are supposed to FOLLOW THE COMMANDMENTS and OBEY. So a child dies of leukemia (i.e., sin) despite fervent prayer and another is saved without. So what? God commands. It is ultimately all for the best. A sodomist gives millions to charity, gets the AIDS contagion is dies to find himself in Hell. So what? All he ever did was nauseatingly disgusting in the eyes of God.


Fear.



Enough fear to lose bowel control. It is necessary to soil oneself physically and spiritually and vomit and tremble when one first realizes the nature of God.



HE IS THAT HE IS. No names necessary, no questions asked. Realization of this -> FEAR -> habit of following commandments -> automatism in obedience -> Grace -> Salvation.

Then it is possible to get a glimpse of the other side of "I AM".




Atheists have the habit of trying to discover Biblical passages that show God as merciless, violent and destructive. Of course they find them. God is merciless, violent and destructive and loving and caring and protecting. He is that He is. In fact, these God-mockers have realized something that fluffy bunny false Christians never understand: God does not need our acceptance before He does what He does. He does not need our acceptance at all. He does what He does anyway.We need acceptance. We need to accept that God is that He is. That way He may give us His grace. When atheists ask me this question, I can now answer.

Yes, Mr./Mrs./Ms Atheist.
You are right. God is all that.
He is violent.
You should fear Him.
Shouldn't you take that into account when you mock Him?
As He is capable of all those things you find gross and fearsome, should you not be
veeeeery
careful and actually start following Him.


I AM THAT I AM.



Yours in Christ,

Elmer



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Default Re: Earning God's love through FEAR: Exodus 3:14 - 09-24-2014, 12:31 PM

How true that is, Mr White.
We are born sinners, because of sin. It is only the fear of the wrath of God that keeps us from continuinf to sin. Without this fear we would all run around performing gross acts of sodomy and treating women as equals. God has told us that these things are wrong, and it is only for this reason that we aren't all a bunch of poofs or feminazis.
Atheists think they can ignore God's wrath and perform abominable acts, but their past will catch up with them. God forgets no vile deed, and will punish the perpetrators in the end.
Knowing what inflames His Wrath, tells us what to do to make it to Heaven. How would we even know what is wrong and what is right, if the Bible wasn't there to tell us?
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Default Re: Earning God's love through FEAR: Exodus 3:14 - 09-25-2014, 09:40 AM

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How would we even know what is wrong and what is right, if the Bible wasn't there to tell us?
I totally agree. If we follow the voice of our emotions, we inevitably refuse to perform many tasks that GOD considers necessary. I, for instance, would not accept the decimation of Fallen heathen nations (exemplified in my opening post) including women and children unless it was ordered by Jesus. There is necessary winnowing of sinners but I would be much to empathetic to support tasks like that if I were left to my own devices. But - thank Jesus - I am not. I can look at the Good Book and perceive that it is all for the Greater Good.

Take this:
Psalm 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Or this:
Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

No, I would never consider following the orders of those verses if I didn't know better. But I know. God is about EVERYTHING. HE IS THAT HE IS.
Joshua 24:24 And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.

I AM THAT I AM

Morality is too complex for a man to comprehend. We need a guiding voice to obey. Then it becomes simple and straightforward. Oh, happy day, when I finally realized this!


Yours in Christ,


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Ephesians 5:1-7 tells us that we are but children. Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; It goes on: Ephesians 5:3-7 3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.


Children have no concept of morality. They need to be told what is acceptable and what is not. This is why the judicial system treats children differently to adults. Children do not know right from wrong. And nor would we, if the Lord did not tell us, as he does for example, in the passage from Ephesians above.
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Default Re: Earning God's love through FEAR: Exodus 3:14 - 09-25-2014, 10:34 PM

Amen! Amen! Shout GLORY!! Because the existence of hell PROVES how much God loves us!


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Rom. 9:22-24: [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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