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Old 04-15-2012, 03:00 AM
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Default After Death, Is There a Final Chance to be Saved.

I'm not a theologian, so I was pleased to see liberal Pastor John Piper step forward to answer this question.

His answer is NO, absolutely not.

Frankly, I don't know who would ever think to ask such a rediculous queston. I mean, if you are not a member of Landover Baptist Church, you can't even be saved when you are alive.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/af...e-saved-73242/
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Old 04-15-2012, 03:36 AM
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Accept Jesus today. After life, there is only JUDGMENT.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

II Corinthians 6:1-2
We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
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Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power


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Amen because this is the most important message we True Christians™ are getting out today! It is already too late for so many. Because God is a killer. Jesus will return as a warrior. Look at the Book of Revelations and you'll find out that Jesus is going to come back as a killer. And don't you forget that. God will kill a third of the population, a third of the earth. Hell will be filled to the brim.

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...Frankly, I don't know who would ever think to ask such a ridiculous question...
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I'm not a theologian, so I was pleased to see liberal Pastor John Piper step forward to answer this question.

His answer is NO, absolutely not.

Frankly, I don't know who would ever think to ask such a rediculous queston. I mean, if you are not a member of Landover Baptist Church, you can't even be saved when you are alive.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/af...e-saved-73242/
Did you read the rest of the article?

He starts off OK, but quickly descends into ridiculous twaddle!

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I can think of one exception, and it's only an exception if you conceive of it a certain way-namely, infants. I believe that infants are saved, that they don't go to hell who die.

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It's a long argument. But when people ask me, "So, are they already saved? Are they born again? Have they believed? You believe that regeneration happens through faith. They haven't believed yet, because they're little babies. So how are they saved, if they're not regenerate since they haven't believed? Where do they get saved if you say they're saved?"

And I back away from those questions because my answer to why I think they're saved isn't based on how they get saved.

I speculate about God instantaneously causing little babies to come into their maturity when they die-I don't know what that would be, a 35 year-old mentality or something-and that immediately they are believers. But all that is speculation, and that's another issue.

I think God's justice in Romans 1:18-21 implies that babies who do not have the resources to construe revelation will not be held accountable for their fallenness. They will be saved by Jesus.

But for everybody else, there is only one opportunity to be saved. And that is: Believe on the Lord Jesus now, and you will be saved.
This then opens up all manner of "exceptions". "Oh, that child was too young to understand." "No, no, he was slow-witted, and didn't understand either." "That person never heard of Jesus." "He was raped by a priest and never met a True Christian™." And on and on it goes.

Lest you think this ignorant pandering twat has "really hit on something" in Scripture, here's where he gets his idea that infants (and retards, and stupid people, and ignorant people) are auto-Saved:

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Romans 1:18-21


18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Why is he lying? To keep the butts in the seats at his false church, of course.
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If you just think about it, it makes a lot of sense. God has gone to a lot of trouble, first the problems that arose in the Garden of Eden where He had to shut it down, then there was the flood that was necessary to clean house (so to speak), and rescues from the Pharos – it just went on almost interminably. And finally He had to send Jesus to temporarily die for all the sins of mankind – you just have to draw the line somewhere. Jesus is coming back one last time to wrap it up, and it's not going to be pretty. Sure, you can live a life of sin and debauchery but why chance it – you just might not be able to make that so-called "death bead" conversion to turn to Jesus at the last moment. Jesus' one time offer expires when you expire – and there is no time like the present to get your affairs in order.

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Old 04-16-2012, 02:36 AM
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Actually my Protestant friends, the answer is YES. And there is Scriptural evidence to back that up!

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/purgatory.html

Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” The word “opponent” (antidiko) is likely a reference to the devil (see the same word for devil in 1 Pet. 5:8) who is an accuser against man (c.f. Job 1.6-12; Zech. 3.1; Rev. 12.10), and God is the judge. If we have not adequately dealt with satan and sin in this life, we will be held in a temporary state called a prison, and we won’t get out until we have satisfied our entire debt to God. This “prison” is purgatory where we will not get out until the last penny is paid.


Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase “in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti”) generally refers to the afterlife (see, for example, Mark 10.30; Luke 18.30; 20.34-35; Eph. 1.21 for similar language). Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and there is no forgiveness in hell. This proves that there is another state after death, and the Church for 2,000 years has called this state purgatory.



1 Cor. 15:29-30 - Paul mentions people being baptized on behalf of the dead, in the context of atoning for their sins (people are baptized on the dead’s behalf so the dead can be raised). These people cannot be in heaven because they are still with sin, but they also cannot be in hell because their sins can no longer be atoned for. They are in purgatory. These verses directly correspond to 2 Macc. 12:44-45 which also shows specific prayers for the dead, so that they may be forgiven of their sin.



Heb. 12:14 - without holiness no one will see the Lord. We need final sanctification to attain true holiness before God, and this process occurs during our lives and, if not completed during our lives, in the transitional state of purgatory.



Rev. 21:27 - nothing unclean shall enter heaven. The word “unclean” comes from the Greek word “koinon” which refers to a spiritual corruption. Even the propensity to sin is spiritually corrupt, or considered unclean, and must be purified before entering heaven. It is amazing how many Protestants do not want to believe in purgatory. Purgatory exists because of the mercy of God. If there were no purgatory, this would also likely mean no salvation for most people. God is merciful indeed.



Zech. 9:11 - God, through the blood of His covenant, will set those free from the waterless pit, a spiritual abode of suffering which the Church calls purgatory.



1 Cor. 3:15 – “if any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” The phrase for "suffer loss" in the Greek is "zemiothesetai." The root word is "zemioo" which also refers to punishment. The construction “zemiothesetai” is used in Ex. 21:22 and Prov. 19:19 which refers to punishment (from the Hebrew “anash” meaning “punish” or “penalty”). Hence, this verse proves that there is an expiation of temporal punishment after our death, but the person is still saved. This cannot mean heaven (there is no punishment in heaven) and this cannot mean hell (the possibility of expiation no longer exists and the person is not saved).



Jude 1:23 - the people who are saved are being snatched out of the fire. People are already saved if they are in heaven, and there is no possibility of salvation if they are in hell. These people are being led to heaven from purgatory.



Zech. 13:8-9 - God says 2/3 shall perish, and 1/3 shall be left alive, put into the fire, and refined like silver and tested like gold. The ones that perish go to hell, and there is no need for refinement in heaven, so those being refined are in purgatory
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
Papist claptrap.
Pastor, his title says "Papist Spooge". Isn't that what priests leave on altar boys?

And why did you all let him choose that as his title? I think I'm going to be sick.
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