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Old 05-07-2012, 03:52 AM
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Hey I'm here for basically the same reason you are. I do believe in God but not because it says so in the Bible. A religion teacher of mine told me that there are to many beautiful and kind things in the world and none of this can be explained completely with science, so I decided there must be a God. However, my version of God is not the same as everyone else on this site
You're damned right it isn't. You have made up some kind of false "god" that just happens to agree with all the nonsense in that thick skull of yours.

True Christians™ believe in God.

(Isaiah 44:6) "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God."

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...A religion teacher of mine told me that there are to many beautiful and kind things in the world and none of this can be explained completely with science, so I decided there must be a God...
A religion teacher doesn't understand science, therefore God exists. Logic fail.

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Of course it isn't. Nobody else inhabits your brain, which is the only place your god exists.

Or I could be wrong, and God did create the universe ~15 billion years ago just so you could have a place to put your stuff. Too bad He also created 7 billion other people who just keep getting in your way, giving you failing grades on your term papers, making you a grande mocha at Starbucks when you specifically asked for a venti, and calling you an idiot when you say stupid things on the internet, eh?
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Hey I'm here for basically the same reason you are. I do believe in God but not because it says so in the Bible. A religion teacher of mine told me that there are to many beautiful and kind things in the world and none of this can be explained completely with science, so I decided there must be a God. However, my version of God is not the same as everyone else on this site
So you just pull some vague, fuzzy-bunny concept of "god" out of your ass and expect us to take you seriously?

Listen, nancy: The only way to know God (the one TRUE God, not your imaginary skydaddy) is to study the Holy Bible. Without God's guidebook, how can you know about morality? How can you know WHY to hate queers? How can you know whether to round the corners of your beard or not? How can you know what to eat or not eat? How can you know what enrages or enraptures Jesus?

You can't just make God up.
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Old 05-07-2012, 04:22 AM
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Hey I'm here for basically the same reason you are. I do believe in God but not because it says so in the Bible. A religion teacher of mine told me that there are to many beautiful and kind things in the world and none of this can be explained completely with science, so I decided there must be a God. However, my version of God is not the same as everyone else on this site
Your teacher is an idiot. What he/she described to you is a god to fill gaps in their own understanding. Any creation god would fill these gaps. I bet they said that the world is pretty therefore the Christian God exists and therefore Jesus rose from the dead. What kind of lazy thinking is that?

There IS only one God and Jesus Christ is my personal savior. I know this because the Bible tells me. There is NO other source of this knowledge therefore you must take the Bible very seriously indeed. You can't just make God into what you want Him to be.

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Pliny and Tacitus don't even mention Jesus himself, only "Christians".
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I must say I admire your strength of character, but don't you think your coming on a little strong by jumping onto a 'christian' message board and denouncing their faith?

I think I'll welcome you now and say that it's nice to meet you, before I get caught up in the conflagration between you and the pastors.

But am I incorrect in this, but isn't Tacitus a real book by Voltaire?

Also weren't there true surviving accounts of Jesus of Nazareth's existence from ancient Roman army accounts?

Thanks for sharing, my world history is rusty.
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I must say I admire your strength of character, but don't you think your coming on a little strong by jumping onto a 'christian' message board and denouncing their faith?...
I denounce anything not backed by evidence. As the Bible is counted as "evidence" on this forum, I only denounce non-Biblical Christians as the hypocrites they are. True Christians™, on the other hand, walk the walk as well as they talk the talk, so I admire their honesty, if not (what I view as) their delusions.

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And I you, though you will have to lose any pagan leanings before your thoughts get any respect from me.

As far as the pastors here go, they've allowed me to stay for near two years and 3,000 posts. I can live with a few unflattering "awards" (I've been called worse by better ).

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Nope. If such existed, the Vatican would be shouting it from the rooftops, instead of letting doubts linger.

The area was under heavy Roman occupation at the time. A gathering of 5,000+ (which Jesus allegedly fed with a few loaves and a couple of fish) would have been noticed and recorded, don't you think?

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Wikipedia's awesome to start off (just be sure to double-check anything contentious or otherwise "iffy", their edit policy is getting rather "clique-y" recently).
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Sorry, I meant to ask, wasn't Tacitus a real book by Voltaire? A satire?
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Sorry, I meant to ask, wasn't Tacitus a real book by Voltaire? A satire?
We don't deal in satire here, son: we deal in FACTS.


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Sorry, I meant to ask, wasn't Tacitus a real book by Voltaire? A satire?
Google comes up empty for Voltaire-Tacitus links, aside from a short passage comparing the two as historians in "Amusements in retirement; or, The influence of science, literature, and the liberal arts, on the manners and happiness of private life, by the author of The philosophy of nature" by Charles Bucke (p. 63, pub. 1816), available as a Google ebook.

"Publius (or Gaius) Cornelius Tacitus (AD 56 – AD 117) was a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus
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Hey I'm here for basically the same reason you are. I do believe in God but not because it says so in the Bible. A religion teacher of mine told me that there are to many beautiful and kind things in the world and none of this can be explained completely with science, so I decided there must be a God. However, my version of God is not the same as everyone else on this site
I'm sorry you got banned, Miss. I was so looking forward to hearing how your religion teacher explains parasitic wasps.

You know, the ones that sneak up on an innocent caterpillar, then lay eggs in its back. The caterpillar goes on eating afterward, trying to live down the shame of this painful and likely confusing violation, until the eggs hatch and the larvae eat the caterpillar alive from the inside.

How does your religion teacher explain such beauty as that?

Guess I'll never know.
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Oh, yes we are robots, my friend. The human mind is just a very advanced computer.
Not according to Susan Greenfield [Professor of neuropharmacology (Oxford)], who specialises in brain physiology








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Oh, yes we are robots, my friend. The human mind is just a very advanced computer. It uses electrical impulses to generate ideas and movement. We are just carbon based while the ones we create are based off of differing metals. Why dont your read the argument first, and dispute it point-counterpoint style rather than use blanket statements like it's stupid.
Second, I discovered this idea long before I read Hume. He wrote it first, so of course it is only fair he get the credit, but I came to the same conclusion he did before I read his work. I made it up, I just was not the first.
You have no basis for making such a sweeping assertion and generalization. Ignoring for the moment that there is both chemical and electrical activity in the human brain, the anthropomorphic metaphor that the human brain is "just like" a computer is pure scientific bullshit – along with the fantasy theories of Alan Turing (and his so-called "Turning Test"). Aside from the problem of imperfect knowledge that would drive your "deterministic" system – much like Freud, you are relying on outmoded 19th Century reductionism to arrive at your unsupported conclusion. For a dose of enlightenment you need to read the works of physicist Sir Roger Penrose, or explore the mathematics behind game theory.
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1) I dont use the Bible itself to prove the existence of Christ. Its an indisputable historical fact that he did live.
Hate to break it to you but the only account we have that's accepted as reliable by any large group of people for who Jesus was, what He did and what He said is the four gospels.

Luckily for us these four pieces of God-inspired writing agree utterly on how Jesus lived His life and what He had to say, His death and resurrection. So they are totally authentic and beyond question.

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Hate to break it to you but the only account we have that's accepted as reliable by any large group of people for who Jesus was, what He did and what He said is the four gospels.

Luckily for us these four pieces of God-inspired writing agree utterly on how Jesus lived His life and what He had to say, His death and resurrection. So they are totally authentic and beyond question.

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Mark, Luke an Matthew are so similar that you can tell that the guys were stood side by side as they were recording the events . Reliable eye witness testimony approved by God.

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I am a bleeding-heart liberal, as i like to believe Christ was (who is an inarguable historic figure).
But if you believe Jesus was a historical figure, why not embrace Jesus as your saviour? That would follow logically since he's the son of God.

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