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Friends, there are a lot of crazies out there who claim there are contradictions in the Bible. However, we all know this is not true. The only problem is that people do not have as big of an imagination as God does. ANY Bible contradiction can be logically explained away if you think about it enough. This is a thread where we can all discuss these in detail. I'll start.

So-Called Contradiction:

Who was Jesus' paternal grandfather?

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Joseph's father was named Jacob and in another place that his name was Heli?


No, because obviously, in Luke, this is actually a genealogy of Mary, and not of Joseph. DUH! Problem solved.
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Friends, there are a lot of crazies out there who claim there are contradictions in the Bible. However, we all know this is not true. The only problem is that people do not have as big of an imagination as God does. ANY Bible contradiction can be logically explained away if you think about it enough. This is a thread where we can all discuss these in detail. I'll start.

So-Called Contradiction:

Who was Jesus' paternal grandfather?

Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Joseph's father was named Jacob and in another place that his name was Heli?


No, because obviously, in Luke, this is actually a genealogy of Mary, and not of Joseph. DUH! Problem solved.
Well thank-you brother, that was preying on my mind. I will sleep soundly tonight.

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Here's another one.

Was John the Baptist Elijah?

Matthew 11:13-14 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. (also Matthew 17:12-13, Mark 9:13)John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias [Elijah]? And he saith, I am not. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one part that John is Elijah and in another that he's not?


No, because obviously John was Elijah in spirit but wasn't physically Elijah. DUH! Problem solved.
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Brother, it always amazes me how readily these so-called "contradictions" are laid to rest when one actually reads the Holy Word of God!
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Was Abraham justified by faith or works?

Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory.

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

So what's up? Does the Bible say in one part that Abraham was not justified by works, but in another part that he was.


No, because obviously Abraham was justified by faith alone, but faith without works is dead.
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Brother, it always amazes me how readily these so-called "contradictions" are laid to rest when one actually reads the Holy Word of God!
Indeed, Sister. These problems go away when you stop trying to "interpret" God's Word and let it interpret itself.
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The average feeble minded God hater sees contridictions where they just don't exist. One of these is how Judas died,

Matthew 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.


Acts 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.


Obviously both are correct. Judas threw the money down into the temple and then picked it up again when Luke wasn't looking. He then left and bought a field, hung himself from a tree in the middle of the field but then the branch broke so he fell down, twisted in the air and landed so he exploded and all his bowels gushed out.


Simple.


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Indeed, Sister. These problems go away when you stop trying to "interpret" God's Word and let it interpret itself.
So true, Brother. Whatever bit of the Bible I'm reading right then and there is obviously the word of God and that's good enough for me.
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Jesus was a readily recognized figure. Any place He went, people thronged about Him, and His disciples.

Mark 3:9

And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should
throng him.

Mark 5:24

And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and
thronged him.

Mark 9:14

And when he came to his disciples, he saw a great
multitude about them, and the scribes questioning with them.

Luke 3:7

Then said he to the
multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

And many more. Remember when He fed 5,000 people with a few loaves and fishes?

Yet Judas had to betray Him with a kiss!

Matthew 26:48

Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall
kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.

You might ask, "Wait, why would Judas have to go up and kiss Jesus to show the Jewish leaders who He was? He was in the garden with only three of His disciples! Shouldn't someone have been able to figure it out? After all their quizzing of Him and His disciples, wouldn't they know Him themselves?"

Obviously, it was dark, and Judas wanted to be sure the priests and the multitude of Christ-killing Jews didn't accidentally grab one of the "heretical" disciples instead of Jesus in the confusion. Duh!
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A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,
It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
- John 19:30

So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?

They all were, duh!

If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
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A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46

When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said,
It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
- John 19:30

So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?

They all were, duh!

If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
I'm guessing that the secretary who took Christ's dictation just wrote it down wrong.
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If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
Indeed, Brother. With God, all things are possible (Matt. 19:26); otherwise, He wouldn't be omnipotent.
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This one is a classic:

Exodus 20:13 vs. 1 Samuel 15:3

Atheists say that killing and genocide are the same thing, verily that genocide is just a whole lot of killing. But this is just stupid. Really certain instances of genocide are encouraged by the Bible while killing is outright forbidden. Atheists are just playing semantic games when they say that genocide involves killing. Like most atheistic theories, this is just a word game.

Besides, anyone who notices this is violating Philippians 4:8
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The census of David. In this so-called contradiction in 2 Sam 24 God tells David to conduct a census. In 1 Chron. 21 it is Satan who tempts David into the census.

2 Samuel 24:1
And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

This one is so easy to explain away. Clearly God and Satan were working together again like they did in the book of Job.
Many times God gives people up, so they'll no longer do the right thing. He leaves them as easy pickings for Satan. That is clearly what has happened here.

God didn't actually tempt David, since we know that God cannot tempt people to do evil.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

God simply withdraws His presence and that naturally causes them to be evil, since we all know that no one cannot be good without God's presence. Without God we would all be running around sodomizing everyone we see. This is evidenced by Romans 1.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Once again, DUH God haters!
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And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. - Genesis 8:4

And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
- Genesis 8:5

A lot of people who are weak in faith wonder how the Ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month of its voyage if the tops of mountains didn't emerge from the flood until the tenth month.

How do we know the Ark wasn't a submersible vessel?
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Who was Abijam's mother?

1 Kings 15:1-2 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam the son of Nebat reigned Abijam over Judah. Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Maachah, the daughter of Abishalom.

2 Chronicles 13:1-2 Now in the eighteenth year of king Jeroboam began Abijah to reign over Judah. Three years reigned he in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Michaiah the daughter of Uriel.

So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place tht Abijam's mother was Maachah and in another place that his mother was Michaiah?


No, because obviously Maachah/Michaiah was known by two different names, and Abishalom is her grandfather while Uriel is her father.
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Sometimes, people misunderstand GOD's intentions for the saved and the damned.

Does GOD want everyone to be saved, or does He want to send some to Hell?

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
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These two verses do not contradict each other.

GOD does want everyone to be saved, but He created Hell specifically for the purpose of torturing the damned. He has to have someone to put in Hell, or else Hell would be a big waste!

I am glad to have gotten that settled once and for all.
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And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. - Genesis 8:4

And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen. - Genesis 8:5

A lot of people who are weak in faith wonder how the Ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month of its voyage if the tops of mountains didn't emerge from the flood until the tenth month.

How do we know the Ark wasn't a submersible vessel?
Brother, remember, the underside of the Ark was under water.

It could rest on the top of Mt. Ararat while the mountain was still submerged, much as a modern boat might be caught on a sandbar which is invisible beneath the waves.
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These two verses from Exodus 33 are frequently used as an example of the Bible contradicting itself within a short space of time:

11 And the Lord spake vnto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh vnto his friend.

20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see mee, and liue.


So, the atheist scum would ask, how could the Lord speak to Moses face to face and yet the Lord says 'Thou canst not see my face'.

Easy - when the Lord was speaking Moses had his eyes shut in awe and veneration!.
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In whose name is baptism to be performed?

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.


Acts 2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ. (also Acts 8:16, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5)


No, because obviously the Trinity is God and Jesus is God, and since there is only one God you're really saying the same thing in either case.
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