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Old 10-03-2012, 09:53 PM
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Adam and Eve were the special, chosen people created in Eden. The first Jews.
Jews hadn't come through until later generations because of Adam's sin, although Adam is, as you have shared Rev. M. Rodimer "chosen." Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Abraham recognized as the first Jew being referred to as "Hebrew?" The Covenant at Mount Sinai had not yet taken place, so there wasn't yet a Jewish People. Besides being anyone who descends from Abraham and/or following his teaching, "Jews" as by definition are also from Judah, the twelve sons of Jacob, the twelve tribes of Israel.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:19 AM
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Jews hadn't come through until later generations because of Adam's sin, although Adam is, as you have shared Rev. M. Rodimer "chosen." Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Abraham recognized as the first Jew being referred to as "Hebrew?" The Covenant at Mount Sinai had not yet taken place, so there wasn't yet a Jewish People. Besides being anyone who descends from Abraham and/or following his teaching, "Jews" as by definition are also from Judah, the twelve sons of Jacob, the twelve tribes of Israel.
So by your argument, Abraham wasn't Jewish, because he was descended from Adam.



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Old 11-20-2012, 10:31 AM
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So by your argument, Abraham wasn't Jewish, because he was descended from Adam.



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Actually, it is the mother's side I would look towards. Descendants from a Jewish mother are Jews, and are obligated in the Jewish commandments of the Torah. Likewise anyone born to a Gentile mother are Gentiles (one of the Children of Noah), and are obligated in the Noahide commandments of the Torah. At Mount Sinai, the approx. 3 million assembled Israelites entered into a Divine Covenant with God and became the Jewish People, and they received the Torah Law from God through Moses.

This was said to me by a Rabbi, and something I wrote down years ago. Correct me if wrong, I wouldn't be able to expound more on this without consulting him, was this information he shared wrong?
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:37 AM
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Actually, it is the mother's side I would look towards. Descendants from a Jewish mother are Jews, and are obligated in the Jewish commandments of the Torah. Likewise anyone born to a Gentile mother are Gentiles (one of the Children of Noah), and are obligated in the Noahide commandments of the Torah. At Mount Sinai, the approx. 3 million assembled Israelites entered into a Divine Covenant with God and became the Jewish People, and they received the Torah Law from God through Moses.

This was said to me by a Rabbi, and something I wrote down years ago. Correct me if wrong, I wouldn't be able to expound more on this without consulting him, was this information he shared wrong?
So you need to establish Abraham's mother's Jewish credentials in order to prove Abraham's Judaism? 'Oy gevalt', as they say.

For some reason I'm wondering which came first, the kosher chicken or the egg in salt water?

Well, pilgrim, off you go to that rabbi and fetch me the relevant ketubah. Chop chop. And I need one for Abraham's maternal grandmother, and her mother, and her mother, and her mother, etc.

Or alternatively, just accept Jesus Christ as your savior.

Did you know that rabbis are required by Jewish law to have sexual intercourse on the sabbath? That's the way Jewish priests spend their 'holy' day. That sums up Jewishism, to me. It's full of holes: holes for the rabbi to fill in, through holes in the sheet, to holes in the bagels. It all just seems to go on forever.

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So you need to establish Abraham's mother's Jewish credentials in order to prove Abraham's Judaism? 'Oy gevalt', as they say.

For some reason I'm wondering which came first, the kosher chicken or the egg in salt water?

Well, pilgrim, off you go to that rabbi and fetch me the relevant ketubah. Chop chop. And I need one for Abraham's maternal grandmother, and her mother, and her mother, and her mother, etc.

Or alternatively, just accept Jesus Christ as your savior.

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I'd much rather just accept Jesus Christ as my savior. Have a great evening everyone!
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:19 AM
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I'd much rather just accept Jesus Christ as my savior. Have a great evening everyone!
That's good, young Mrs Shampoo. Now kneel and get ready to receive Him! I guarantee that you will never have a better evening than this.

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