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Dr. Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. (or MLK for short) made a very famous speech in Washington D.C. in 1963. It is known as the "I Have a Dream" speech. Considering today is MLK Day, I thought it would be appropriate if I analyzed the speech from a True Christian™ perspective, thus giving the reader the Truth behind King's words.





MLK: I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.


Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.


Rev. Jim: So what King is joyously celebrating here is breaking God's Law. He relishes in the fact that negroes are no longer slaves, even though they are demanded by God to serve our race. (Gen. 9:25-26) Furthermore, the Bible makes it clear that slavery is condoned, if not outright advocated, and never, ever portrayed as something negative.




MLK: But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

Rev. Jim: I at least applaud King for honestly admitting that negroes can't get anywhere in life. Over 100 years (a whole century!) of being free, they still can't pull up their bootstraps and get anything done. They can't work hard to achieve material prosperity. Of course, he plays the race card here, whining about alleged "segregation" and "chains of discrimination". Ok, Mr. King, if negroes are so held back by those things, then how did Obama get elected president? Case closed.


MLK:In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check — a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

Rev. Jim: Here we have another poor negro whining about government checks. They receive their welfare checks and when they go to cash them, they find their account has insufficient funds. Not due to any racism of course, but by their own irresponsibility. Negroes are spend-happy with their money, splurging on malt liquor, illegal firearms, expensive designer clothes, spinners for their cars, drugs, and paternity tests. It's their fault they have insufficient funds, not us!


MLK: We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

Rev. Jim: Here King is talking about two things negroes like to do: Cool off when it is hot outside and take tranquilizing drugs. Watermelon and Weed. As for the second part, I agree that we should make justice a reality for all of God's children. But who is God's children? Only those who have accepted Christ as their savior! I hope King isn't saying everyone is God's children!

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


MLK: It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

Rev. Jim: What is it about negroes always complaining about the heat? Ever try to get them to work outside during the summer? It's impossible. That's why I only hire Mexicans because they never complain. They know if they start yapping to me in their spicspeak, that I'll have them deported.

Also, what King is saying here is that negroes will riot, murder, and rape, which are in his words, "neither rest nor tranquility in America". That part is actually true. The negro crime rate still leads the nation and King was either a prophet, or just displaying common sense when he knew how violent and crazy negroes would be in the future.


MLK: But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.
We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. They have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone.


Rev. Jim: To his credit, King is doing his best to advocate non-violence from negroes, but that's about as effective as herding cats. In his previous paragraph he admitted to how violent they are, now he's trying to control it. You can't have it both ways. I also notice this is another example, again, of negroes can't doing things on their own. King begs white people for help, just like negroes beg white people everyday for spare change on the street.



MLK: As we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied, as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating "For Whites Only". We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.


Rev. Jim: Whine, whine, whine! That's all negroes do is complain. Maybe if negroes stopped stealing pies and raping white women then running from police, then they would stop being "victims" of police "brutality"? Maybe if they stopped being pimps and bringing crack whores to motel rooms, then motel owners would let them stay? See, King is playing the race card yet again and refusing to take credit for his own race's problems! Despicable!




MLK: I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality.


Rev. Jim: "Some" of them? I would imagine pretty much all the negroes in the crowd are fresh out of jail or being picked up by the cops.



MLK: You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.


Rev. Jim: WRONG! Only the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is redemptive!


John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



MLK: Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair.


Rev. Jim: Yes, go back! Stay out of Iowa!




MLK: I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."


Rev. Jim: King should be quoting the AV1611 KJV Bible, and not the Constitution. The Bible is true, the Constitution is false. Look at the blatant lies in that statement: "all men are created equal". No they are not. God created negroes to be our servants (Gen. 9:25-26) and he has purposely made some people born with handicaps (Ex. 4:11), so obviously the Bible says men aren't created equal. Therefore the Constitution is contradicting the Bible and is invalid.



MLK: I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.


Rev. Jim: But this is a direct challenge against the Biblical commandment not to eat with unbelievers! MLK is trying to turn Christians away from Jesus! Don't listen to him!



1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


MLK: I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

Rev. Jim: Again, negroes complaining about the heat.




MLK: I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Rev. Jim: First off, King has way more than four children. Those are just the ones he is acknowledging. He probably had a dozen or more with various mistresses, prostitutes, and quick one-night stands. But anyways, we at Landover Baptist don't judge people based on their skin color. We judge them on their character. If we judged by skin color, we wouldn't have an Ex-Negro program now would we?




MLK: I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right there in Alabama, little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.


Rev. Jim: It sounds like he is describing the Second Coming, but I would like to ask King where in Scripture does it say "mountains will be made low" and all that other stuff. I know the seas will boil and the sky will fall, but I hadn't read that about the mountains. Book, chapter, verse, please!




MLK: This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.


Rev. Jim: So far all they've accomplished is "going to jail together".




MLK: This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania! Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado! Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California! But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia! Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee! Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.


Rev. Jim: I think King is doing what negroes call "shout outs". Often times you will hear a rapper say things like "Wassup to mah homiez in Compton, representin' da 213. I wanna say word up to P-Dawg in Oakland, Lil' Nate in Houston, and Smokey livin' it up in ATL! Peace, word to your mother!" I think King was one of the first negroes to utilize shout-outs.




MLK: And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"


Rev. Jim: Obviously, for a "reverend" he has never read the Bible. Why should we join up with unsaved trash like Jews or Catholics? The Bible tells us to steer clear from their vile ways!


2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?




So, in conclusion, we can see that this speech is really nothing spectacular. A lot of it runs contradictory to the Bible, and it revolves around playing the race card and "blame Whitey". I hope this analysis has bettered your knowledge about who Martin Luther King really was....a race-baiting false Christian who fornicated with white women in motels.


I leave you with some final quotes form Martin Luther King that you may find quite enlightening.


That night King retired to his room at the Willard Hotel. There FBI bugs reportedly picked up 14 hours of party chatter, the clinking of glasses and the sounds of illicit sex--including King's cries of "I'm f--ing for God" and "I'm not a Negro tonight!" (Newsweek 1/19/1998)


These quotes were said while he was fornicating with three white women at once and also beating them. King would use church money to hire prostitutes, according to his close friend, Rev. Ralph Abernathy. Can you believe how shameless that is? An actual reverend using church money to pay for prostitutes? That man is a false Christian, a sinner, and will burn in Hell for eternity.
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It was about time someone says it like it is! Praise our Savior Jesus Christ!
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So much truth Rev. Jim Osborne, I aspire to be a True Christian like you!
But Il never be, because I am not american...
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Thank you, Rev. Jim, for that truly anointed preaching. I just had to comment on the following:
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MLK: You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.
No wonder he wanted to work with the Romanists. That line has nothing to do with Biblically correct Christianity and everything to do with the papist myth of purgatory.
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so your telling me since im black im your slave by gods word?
point this out to me in the bible and save my soul, from eternal damnation.

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so your telling me since im black im your slave by gods word?
point this out to me in the bible and save my soul, from eternal damnation.
It's the curse of Ham.

Genesis 9:20-27
And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


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ps: can i still date my boy friend hes white
No! The Bible forbids miscegenation.

Exodus 34:10-16
And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee. Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite.
Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.


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When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
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MLK should have done some research on what the Bible says about race.
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MLK should have done some research on what the Bible says about race.
To invade and exterminate all blacks in Africa sounds a bit drastic. Wouldn't it be better to enslave them? I sure could use a slave about the house to take some pressure off my baby-producing wife.
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More hate speech from Fartin' Loser Dink:

On Ronald Reagan:
...When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events... -Martin Luther King Jr.
On Barry Goldwater, who recently said he's to the left of today's Republican Party:

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
It was both unfortunate and disastrous that the Republican Party nominated Barry Goldwater as its candidate for President of the United States. In foreign policy Mr. Goldwater advocated a narrow nationalism, a crippling isolationism, and a trigger-happy attitude that could plunge the whole world into the dark abyss of annihilation. On social and economic issues, Mr. Goldwater represented an unrealistic conservatism that was totally out of touch with the realities of the twentieth century. The issue of poverty compelled the attention of all citizens of our country. Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

While I had followed a policy of not endorsing political candidates, I felt that the prospect of Senator Goldwater being President of the United States so threatened the health, morality, and survival of our nation, that I could not in good conscience fail to take a stand against what he represented.
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Hello Rev. Jim Osbourne. I do not believe in luck but as luck would have it I was in Washington, D.C. when Dr. King gave this speech. I was in college at the time but this was not part of my studies because I did not study theology or civil disobedience or race music or basketball. When Dr. King gave his speech I was in a bar that was mostly filled with Irish people although I am not Irish.

This is what God says about luck and it is from Proverbs 16:33 in the Old Testament:

The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD.

They say the Irish are lucky but they were not lucky that day because the toilets backed up at the bar.

Thank you.

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The blacks have no excuse for their underachieving. If persecution and racism were something to keep people down how does the Left explain the success of Christians (as in white, male, Republican)? We Christians (as in white, male, Republican) are the most persecuted people in history, even today we are pretty much second class citizens in our own country, yet we have manged to make it to the top.

The face is the blacks are were they are at because God Himself in His perfect and flawless wisdom has put them there. That's why blacks should turn away from communism, hip hop music and embrace TRUE Christianity.
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If that motel owner had not rented MLK that room, King would not of been shot that day.
Obviously, the motel owner was Not A Christian!


This all goes back to what I have said. No nigra will respect anyones property. I am sure Coretta did not clean up her husbands mess either. MLK was said to of 'taken it on the chin' but all I can tell is he was rather uppity.

No where in the KJV Bible is any of the horrific behavior byMLK condoned by God. I guess no one will ever know what King was thinking.
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