[iLOVEgeorgebush]

You people are so certain that god exists and you claim you know everything. I say claim because you have no evidence to back anything up. You have no physical evidence to prove god exists or that he even likes your church. If anything, he hates your church. You say read the bible or that the bible is proof enough. Well the bible could easily have been written by some random dude. For all we know christianity could have been a very successful cult. But that is just a hypothesis. There is NO proof to prove that christianity is a cult or that the bible was written by just some random dude. And there is no proof that proves god doesnt exist. But, neither is there proof that god exists or that anything you say is true. But of course if you can give me PHYSICAL PROOF OF GODS EXISTANCE, I will change my ideas and side with you.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by ih8georgebush

You people are so certain that god exists and you claim you know everything. I say claim because you have no evidence to back anything up. You have no physical evidence to prove god exists or that he even likes your church. If anything, he hates your church. You say read the bible or that the bible is proof enough. Well the bible could easily have been written by some random dude. For all we know christianity could have been a very successful cult. But that is just a hypothesis. There is NO proof to prove that christianity is a cult or that the bible was written by just some random dude. And there is no proof that proves god doesnt exist. But, neither is there proof that god exists or that anything you say is true. But of course if you can give me PHYSICAL PROOF OF GODS EXISTANCE, I will change my ideas and side with you.

The existence of the Universe is proof of God’s existence. After all how can something exist without a creator?

I wish you atheists would try to be more logical.

[iLOVEgeorgebush]

did you ever hear of the big bang theory? Thats a possibility also. The universe isnt physical proof god exists. A creator isnt the only way the universe is created, but it is possible. The big bang theory does seem likely but as i said before it cant be proven, same with god, it cant be proven he exists. And for the record, Im not an atheist. I didnt say i didnt believe in god, I just said there is no real Physical evidence to his existance.

[iLOVEgeorgebush]

sorry, using the universe as attempted proof for gods existance doesnt prove that he is real. I still dont side with you just yet. And for you saying that there must be a creator. Wouldnt that mean that something would have to have created god. Hey, what your saying is everything needed a divine creator so Im thinking if god needed some kind of creation. just a thought.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by iLovegeorgebush

Yif you can give me PHYSICAL PROOF OF GODS EXISTANCE, I will change my ideas and side with you.

OK - I think I can offer you proof but I think that you are a liar when you say you would change your mind in the face of that proof.

I think that you would just keep saying "No, that's not proof." like the idiot child you are.

You have to tell me what sort of proof would make you post on this forum in red in size 72 Font, "I was Wrong - God Exists." Your post must contain no other words than that and your name.

The proof cannot involve God appearing to you or a miracle of your choosing - God hates you already and would not hear your prayer and we here at Landover do not claim miraculous powers (although we do some pretty good work.)

So Listen Up JohnnyNoStars - what proof do you want so that you'll post as I ask?

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by ih8georgebush

did you ever hear of the big bang theory? Thats a possibility also. The universe isnt physical proof god exists. A creator isnt the only way the universe is created, but it is possible. The big bang theory does seem likely but as i said before it cant be proven,

Are you talking about the theory that the Universe came from a singularity? Well friend, caused The Big Bang? You still need a creator.

Originally Posted by ih8georgebush

same with god, it cant be proven he exists. And for the record, Im not an atheist. I didnt say i didnt believe in god, I just said there is no real Physical evidence to his existance.

Then you believe God exists, that would make you a Christian. We Christian have long known all atheist secretly believe in God in their hearts. You are just another example friend.

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

sorry, using the universe as attempted proof for gods existance doesnt prove that he is real. I still dont side with you just yet. And for you saying that there must be a creator. Wouldnt that mean that something would have to have created god. Hey, what your saying is everything needed a divine creator so Im thinking if god needed some kind of creation. just a thought.

As The Bible explains friend God is perfect and eternal. As you and atheist science even admit the Universe is not eternal. God was there before the Universe.

Now friend I would like to you to prove God doesn't exist.

[Unfalsifiable]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

A creator isnt the only way the universe is created.

Listen to yourself!

I think it's time someone sat down and accepted God into his life, before things get out of control... Satan is salivating at the sight of your disorientation.

[StarrKingGrad]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

You say read the bible or that the bible is proof enough. Well the bible could easily have been written by some random dude.

Random, maybe, but just one dude? No way. There are way too many inconsistencies and stylistic differences in the Bible for it to have been written by any one author.

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Are you talking about the theory that the Universe came from a singularity? Well friend, caused The Big Bang? You still need a creator.

Interesting, I didn't realize that Landover doctrine accepted the Big Bang theory. How can you square that with the doctrine that God created the Earth before he created light? Doesn't 1 Timothy 6:20 instruct you to reject any science that doesn't agree with the Bible?

Now friend I would like to you to prove God doesn't exist.

Well, at least I agree with Landover on this point. It is incomprehensible to me how we could have a universe so orderly as to permit the evolution of life without a creative intellect behind it.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by StarrKingGrad

Interesting, I didn't realize that Landover doctrine accepted the Big Bang theory. How can you square that with the doctrine that God created the Earth before he created light? Doesn't 1 Timothy 6:20 instruct you to reject any science that doesn't agree with the Bible?

The earth existed in a potential state in the singularity. When the Big Bang happened it merely inflated like a balloon to it's current size at the center of the Universe.

[iLOVEgeorgebush]

ok, you calling me a liar isnt physical proof to gods existance. Some physical proof i was thinking would be for example the shroud of turin. Im sure you know what that is. Or there was a special on TV about religious artifacts. Since I am interested in christianity i decided to tune in. Apparently someone found a burial box saying, Here lies James, son of Joseph, Brother of Jesus or something along the lines of that. Im surprised none of you have brought those things up. If you could bring up some more info about those I would believe you. And for the record I have never once said god exists. None of my posts have I said god doesnt exist. But I have said that there is no proof to say god doesnt, because there isnt. No one can prove to me that god doesnt exist. But vice versa. No one can really prove with Physical evidence he exists either. Objects like the shroud of Turin do point more towards that Jesus did really exist. Or the fact that the Universe is to diverse to just be created by the big bang, because it seems alot more likely that divine right was behind the creation of the universe, but as I was saying before there is nothing that can prove or disprove that. Ive enjoyed having this debate with you and hope that this will benefit my outlook on religion.

[iLOVEgeorgebush]

for the record, I never once said without a doubt god doesnt exist. Im not going to prove to you god doesnt exist because I cant. No one can. And im not challenging you to see who can prove/disprove gods existance. Im just wondering if you can show physical evidence ex. shroud of turin that would prove that god exists. See, i have shown physical evidence pointing to gods existance.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

for the record, I never once said without a doubt god doesnt exist. Im not going to prove to you god doesnt exist because I cant. No one can. And im not challenging you to see who can prove/disprove gods existance. Im just wondering if you can show physical evidence ex. shroud of turin that would prove that god exists. See, i have shown physical evidence pointing to gods existance.

So if you admit that there's physical proof that God exists, why are you asking us to provide some? Don't you have anything better to do with you time than pester Christians?

[Don the Baptist]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

for the record, I never once said without a doubt god doesnt exist. Im not going to prove to you god doesnt exist because I cant. No one can. And im not challenging you to see who can prove/disprove gods existance. Im just wondering if you can show physical evidence ex. shroud of turin that would prove that god exists. See, i have shown physical evidence pointing to gods existance.

I'm not so sure about these shrubs and turbins you keep mentioning but we don't need much proof beyond the blessed KJV Bible, see Genesis 1.1: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and earth", did you catch that sport right towards the middle, it says GOD created. What more do you need you retard? HERE it is for ya in pictures in case your book learnins are coming up short.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

for the record, I never once said without a doubt god doesnt exist. Im not going to prove to you god doesnt exist because I cant. No one can. And im not challenging you to see who can prove/disprove gods existance. Im just wondering if you can show physical evidence ex. shroud of turin that would prove that god exists. See, i have shown physical evidence pointing to gods existance.

The Shroud of Turin is a catlick thing - they hold it and they worship it. The link between it and Christ is tenuous. The papists of the church of Rome says, "Look, this is what we think Christ looked like, therefore it must be Christ, therefore it is proof - isn't it amazing? Please put lots of your money on this plate so the pope can buy some more expensive clothes."

I was expecting that you would ask for greater proof than this, and I have already prepared a post to place in this thread.

But, if you are satisfied with that then fair enough, it is not for me to question your faith other than to tell you that if you are not a True Christian, you're damned.

[ilovegod.com]

just because you christian say that god made everything doesnt make it true. theres more evidence pointing the creation of the universe was a giant explosion not some bearded guy wearing white overalls. and wheres the proof that the bible is not a load of lies.

[Deaner]

Originally Posted by ilovegod.com

...theres more evidence pointing the creation of the universe was a giant explosion

Yeah, I've heard that. All of a sudden out of nowhere there was this giant explosion and whammo...here we sit. Makes a lot of sense.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by iLOVEgeorgebush

for the record, I never once said without a doubt god doesnt exist. Im not going to prove to you god doesnt exist because I cant. No one can. And im not challenging you to see who can prove/disprove gods existance. Im just wondering if you can show physical evidence ex. shroud of turin that would prove that god exists. See, i have shown physical evidence pointing to gods existance.

Friend,

Either God exists or He doesn’t, there is no such thing as a maybe state for reality outside the sub-atomic level. Since you can’t prove God doesn’t exist then that only means He dose. Trust me friend, I looked long and hard at the proof of God’s no existence before I became a TRUE Christian™ (Republican).

You just need to look at the facts friend.

[ilovegod.com]

Originally Posted by Deaner

Yeah, I've heard that. All of a sudden out of nowhere there was this giant explosion and whammo...here we sit. Makes a lot of sense.

makes more sense than the earth being made is six days. you just can't think for yourself so you use the god theory to try and fill the void of a question you can't answer.

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Originally Posted by ilovegod.com

makes more sense than the earth being made is six days. you just can't think for yourself so you use the god theory to try and fill the void of a question you can't answer.

Oh, Lord, look who says he cannot think, Give it up man, you are not a worthy adversary to this Blessed® Church's Pastors, and again, TROLL!

[ilovegod.com]

what the hell why can't i think for myself? I choose to believe that the big bang started the universe because i feel that god making the universe and humanity is bullshit mate and also i have my own theories that your minds could not comprehend.