[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by SaviorSeeker

Well, I'd like to truly understand the bible. that is why i am here.

You could try reading the A1611KJV Bible, It's available at Walmart right now for under $5 or free from most Independent Baptist Churches.

However, I really do not see logic in some of gods deeds. Or Christians thoughts.

So you think you know better than God? Maybe a touch of humility would help you there bucko. As for Christian thoughts, if they're not based in the KJV Bible, they're not anything.

An example is that Charlemagne in ancient Rome gave the Edict of Milan. This allowed Christianity to spread to anyone who chose to believe in it. However, the Edict of Milan caused Romes downfall: The people of Rome started to believe in god over their emperors, and did not obey their leaders. this caused the downfall of Rome. So Rome allowed Christianity, so they were defeated. I see no logic in this. Rome gave the Lord more followers, yet they were punished for this. This is one of MANY cases.

Rome was never Christian, they just put Christian robes on their pagan message and it turned into the Catholic church. Hence all the lesser gods that are now called "saints" and other ritualistic garbage.

[Bible+Science]

Originally Posted by SaviorSeeker

I'd give a thorough explanation disproving every single piece of argument you have there, but then I realized it would be a waste of time, because you people don't listen. There is hard-core proof evidence behind every science. It explains the world around us. The bible is just a set of rules to follow. It's not all that you should believe. No need to hate on the truth. There are many loopholes in the bible.

EXCESSIVE BLOCKQUOTING BY RUBE POSTER DELETED! -- BAB

I completely agree with you in every way shape or form =) In order for the Bible to be valid it has to match up with the facts. Denying Scientific fact is just plain mormonic, I think some people here may need to sit through basic school again. I believe that the Bible does harmonize completely with Science, some people will tell you otherwise though.

[Born Again Bob]

Originally Posted by Bible+Science

I completely agree with you in every way shape or form =) In order for the Bible to be valid it has to match up with the facts. Denying Scientific fact is just plain mormonic, I think some people here may need to sit through basic school again. I believe that the Bible does harmonize completely with Science, some people will tell you otherwise though.

Dear Friend,

You're worshipping science as a false idol. See 2+2=5 under my post.

Helpfully,
bab

[Bible+Science]

Originally Posted by Born Again Bob

Dear Friend,

You're worshipping science as a false idol. See 2+2=5 under my post.

Helpfully,
bab

Perhaps, but are you misinterpreting the Bible to mean 2+2=5?

If the Bible contradicted something we knew as 100% fact (for example that man had three hearts, eight stomaches and 5 legs) then the Bible would lose credibility. This is not the case however, the Bible & Science DO harmonize.

If the Bible did say the things I mentioned formerly (which we know to be false) and we were to believe it then (and please don't take this offensively because it is a genuine question) what makes us any different to those who Believe the Quran, The Zoroasters, The Talmud or the Toa Te Ching?

God Bless, BIS

[Born Again Bob]

Originally Posted by Bible+Science

If the Bible contradicted something we knew as 100% fact (for example that man had three hearts, eight stomaches and 5 legs) then the Bible would lose credibility. This is not the case however, the Bible & Science DO harmonize.

Did you even read my post? I cited a dozen examples of Biblical truths that are contradictory, illogical, or mocked by science. Show me how those harmonize.

bab

[Deathtotheheathen]

Originally Posted by Bible+Science

Perhaps, but are you misinterpreting the Bible to mean 2+2=5?

If the Bible contradicted something we knew as 100% fact (for example that man had three hearts, eight stomaches and 5 legs) then the Bible would lose credibility. This is not the case however, the Bible & Science DO harmonize.

If the Bible did say the things I mentioned formerly (which we know to be false) and we were to believe it then (and please don't take this offensively because it is a genuine question) what makes us any different to those who Believe the Quran, The Zoroasters, The Talmud or the Toa Te Ching?

God Bless, BIS

If the Bible said it, it is right son! I don't know why your speculating about things that aren't in there! Don't add words to the Bible boy, it is the holy Bible! Science is unholy! Therefore Science is of the devil! You believe in Science therefore you are of the devil!

[splattyluke]

its funny, because a BIRD is classified as feathered, winged, bipedal, warm-blooded, egg-laying, vertebrate. a bat is NOT THAT. its like saying an emu is a mammal because it lives on land. or a penguin is a fish because it lives in the sea.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by splatty05

its funny, because a BIRD is classified as feathered, winged, bipedal, warm-blooded, egg-laying, vertebrate. a bat is NOT THAT. its like saying an emu is a mammal because it lives on land. or a penguin is a fish because it lives in the sea.

We only speak God's word, if you hate us then you hate God and you hate Jesus. Why do you hate Jesus so much?

YiC

Jack

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by splatty05

its funny, because a BIRD is classified as feathered, winged, bipedal, warm-blooded, egg-laying, vertebrate. a bat is NOT THAT. its like saying an emu is a mammal because it lives on land. or a penguin is a fish because it lives in the sea.

Classified by who? A bunch of pencil-necked, monkey worshiping joo scientists? Who cares what they think?! WE follow God around here.

[MentalHaze]

Birds lay eggs
Bats give birth like mammals. Thats why they are mammals and eagles
are birds.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by MetalHaze

Birds lay eggs
Bats give birth like mammals. Thats why they are mammals and eagles
are birds.

So what is a platypus?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Scientistic Fool]

Did you graduate from the second grade, you obviously know absolutly nothing about science. You can't claim scientist are lying or don't know what they're doing because scientist made the very technology that allows you to be on a computer. You can see micro organisms i have SEEN them through a mircoscoope there is nothing to beleive or not they are there end of story. Same goes for DNA. Also stars distances can be very acturatly measured with techniques you know nothing about. Nuclear decay of the nuclius of atoms is how geologist use date rock and it WORKS! Take a science class before you make ridiculous accusations. Dumbass!

[New Creation (Recalcitrant)]

Originally Posted by Scientist173

Did you graduate from the second grade, you obviously know absolutly nothing about science. You can't claim scientist are lying or don't know what they're doing because scientist made the very technology that allows you to be on a computer. You can see micro organisms i have SEEN them through a mircoscoope there is nothing to beleive or not they are there end of story. Same goes for DNA. Also stars distances can be very acturatly measured with techniques you know nothing about. Nuclear decay of the nuclius of atoms is how geologist use date rock and it WORKS! Take a science class before you make ridiculous accusations. Dumbass!

You obviously know nothing about Jesus, the Bible, or respect!

If you had once, just once picked up a Bible you'd know that the whole evilutionist conspiracy is nothing more than an attempt by atheistic scum like yourself to tell our precious Christian children that they're animals and then you wonder why they shoot up schools.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Scientist173

Did you graduate from the second grade, you obviously know absolutly nothing about science. You can't claim scientist are lying or don't know what they're doing because scientist made the very technology that allows you to be on a computer. You can see micro organisms i have SEEN them through a mircoscoope there is nothing to beleive or not they are there end of story. Same goes for DNA. Also stars distances can be very acturatly measured with techniques you know nothing about. Nuclear decay of the nuclius of atoms is how geologist use date rock and it WORKS! Take a science class before you make ridiculous accusations. Dumbass!

Interesting you are so confident in your 'theories' (not facts mind you) that you feel compelled to resort to insults. I have to assume from quality of writing in your post that you failed to graduate from the second grade.

Tell me, why do you hate baby Jesus? He gave you life.

[Scientistic Fool]

I'm sorry to resort to insults but i am a high school student who works the summer at a high energy particle physics lab at a university. You guys are simply uneducated(no offense) on these topics. I mean honestly I has raised a Christian but i learned the ways of science and am not an atheist. You people use your minds and open your eyes the bible is written in metaphors it's not atext book so stop taking it to such extremes. You people are racist, prejiduce against almost every group other than your own, and it makes be sick. If there is a god i'm sure he loves all people. I think that a very kind reasonable and pasinote atheist like my self is more likly to get into heaven than you people because of all the hate you express.

[James Hutchins]

Uneducated? I have two masters degrees from Princeton. You are a child sweeping the floors for the summer at some death lab. I do not know why you continue with the insults. Do you even read what you wrote? You should of spent the summer being schooled on reading and writing (probably arithmetic too) though finding a career early in life is important too.

Have you ever actually read the Bible and not just look at the pictures? We do not hate. We follow the Bible. God's Book. I do as God instructs. If you have a problem with that, it is not with us, rather it is with God. I suggest to two start a dialog.

I'd love to have you explain how an atheist will go to Heaven. This will be good.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Scientist173

I'm sorry to resort to insults but i am a high school student who works the summer at a high energy particle physics lab at a university. You guys are simply uneducated(no offense) on these topics. I mean honestly I has raised a Christian but i learned the ways of science and am not an atheist. You people use your minds and open your eyes the bible is written in metaphors it's not atext book so stop taking it to such extremes. You people are racist, prejiduce against almost every group other than your own, and it makes be sick. If there is a god i'm sure he loves all people. I think that a very kind reasonable and pasinote atheist like my self is more likly to get into heaven than you people because of all the hate you express.

Friend,

We are opened mined and we do follow the Christian scientific method. Now if you can show us Biblical proof of evolution we will consider it. But face it, the Christian consensus is the earth is only 6,000 years odl.

[Scientistic Fool]

I'm sorry for my insults they were not called for but the fact remains that some of the imformation on this website is simply false. For exapmle the movie reviews not every kids ever made has homosexual refrences, i would be more worried about movies that actually send a bad message. Also there is no evidence that the earth is flat. The earth is round end of story, the earth rotates around the sun and the moon around the earth and the sun around the center of the galaxy. These are facts alls you have to do is a little reaserch. Also i have read a majority of the bible because i was raised a christian, however some of the rules were simply costumes of the time that no longer apply so stop taking it so literaly. I am once again sorry for my insults you are entiled to your own opinion but most of these things aren't opinions they are facts so deal with it.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Scientist173

I'm sorry for my insults they were not called for but the fact remains that some of the imformation on this website is simply false. For exapmle the movie reviews not every kids ever made has homosexual refrences, i would be more worried about movies that actually send a bad message. Also there is no evidence that the earth is flat. The earth is round end of story, the earth rotates around the sun and the moon around the earth and the sun around the center of the galaxy. These are facts alls you have to do is a little reaserch. Also i have read a majority of the bible because i was raised a christian, however some of the rules were simply costumes of the time that no longer apply so stop taking it so literaly. I am once again sorry for my insults you are entiled to your own opinion but most of these things aren't opinions they are facts so deal with it.

No, I am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. The Homer stuff is all to real a menace. Save yourself while you still can. Protect your rectum.
No, the Bible clearly states and Biblical works all verify the Earth is flat. There are those that hate God and therefore they have their 'theories' regarding a spherical Earth, but it simply is not possible. If the Earth were round, tables would be tilted, going to Florida would be downhill all the way. All the water in the oceans would engulf Australia.
No, the Bible is the True Word of God®. I am glad you are at least honest enough to admit you have not read the complete Book. Yet I am amazed you profess to be a master of it. If God did not want the Bible to be followed EXACTLY as written, He would of had it updated. LOL, just like you 'scientists' do all the time regarding your 'theories'. But God has not done so. Why? Because the Bible is perfect and True. Now, if you disagree with that, your problem is not with us but with God. You should go into the Church there and pray that God agrees with you. This is not an opinion (like a 'theory') it is a cold, hard fact.

[Scientistic Fool]

You don't understand gravity at all it doesn't just pull down it pulls objects together so no matter where you are the pull of gravity is the same on a spherical earth. Also you are not a scientist so you don't know how we opperate, we seek the truth about the universe not matter how much it distorts our orginal predictions. You howeer simply scrape the bottum of the barrel for evidence that proves that you are right. Scientist hypothesis are not always riht so they prefect them into theories. Finally kicking me off will simply prove by prediction that you guys are not open to new ideas so do it if you want, then we'll see whos right.