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Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 02:37 PM
In the 60's some pregnant women were given a drug containing thalidomide to help them with their pregnancy pains/discomfort. (Why a woman would not embrace her pain is confounding)
http://www.acpoc.org/library/1992_01_003.asp
This drug sometimes caused severe defects in the babies.
Since then, some of those who survived and managed to get married and have children of their own have seen their defect genetically passed down to their children. This is one of the first documented cases of a drug causing defects in a baby that can be passed down to a third generation.
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Glenn Harrison feels a pang of recognition when he gazes at his 3-year-old daughter, Georgina. Unlike her able-bodied brothers, Jason, 9, and Bobby, 6, she was born with deformities strikingly similar to her father's: abnormally short legs and pincerlike hands, with two fingers on each. Reportedly, 10 of the 325 offspring of thalidomide children have impairments resembling their parents', though no genetic link has been clearly established. Harrison, 36, will make no excuses to his russet-haired daughter. "I can't apologize," he says. "You have to learn to take it on the chin."
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Can this be viewed as proof of evolution or creationism? Surely the parents DNA has been altered by the drug his mother took. Just as his child had a small chance of being a ginger (red hair), so did he have the small chance of inheriting his father's own birth defect.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 02:43 PM
We don't ever get Flid babies in Freehold.
I guess Jesus loves True Christians™ too much.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 02:51 PM
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 02:59 PM
I had a john way back when who was one of those flipper kids. It was a little creepy, but at least I knew he was never gonna smack me around.
I kinda liked the guy. He was always polite and he was really quick. I mean like 30 seconds quick. I guess since he didn't have real arms I was his only outlet.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:01 PM
It's just another cripple that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for. All of those thlids should be sterilized and their offspring, too, to save the rest of us from having to pay for them the rest of their lives.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:09 PM
Oh and thank the US government for not approving of the drug. Thankfully no thalidomide drugs were available in the USA
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:13 PM
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It's just another cripple that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for. All of those thlids should be sterilized and their offspring, too, to save the rest of us from having to pay for them the rest of their lives.
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So you want them sterilized because their DNA has been altered?
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:16 PM
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Oh and thank the US government for not approving of the drug. Thankfully no thalidomide drugs were available in the USA
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Unsurprisingly, as Eisenhower, Republican, was in charge during the Thalidomide episode. He too would have known that women are to suffer in child-bearing.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:24 PM
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So you want them sterilized because their DNA has been altered?
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Ahh DNA, my favorite subject.
A relatively current theory is tha Thalidomide intercalates iteslf into the embryonic DNA, it is particularly compatible with the purine sites in DNA. This intercalation has impacts upon the promoter regions of the genes controlling the development of limbs, ears, and eyes. There is no evidence however, that this defect is passed on, it is localized and caused by this side effect of the drug.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:28 PM
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There is no evidence however, that this defect is passed on, it is localized and caused by this side effect of the drug.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:32 PM
As a Scientheist, I am skeptical about this whole incident. As we all know, the Lord punishes sinning parents by afflicting their offspring with various righteous punishments. And while I have no actual data or studies I can sight, I am positive that drugs had nothing to do with these deformed children.
The fact that most of these supposed "Thalidomide Babies" were missing proper arms points to chronic self abuse by one or both parents. God smited the children of these habitual masturbators in a way that learned Christians, like the True Christians™ here at Landover, would understand His lesson.
It does not surprise me at all that this happened in Godless countries like Germany and Japan. Onanism is endemic to these hotbeds of heathenism.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 03:41 PM
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As a Scientheist, I am skeptical about this whole incident.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Doesn't this pretty much disprove evolution?
According to wiki
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Natural selection is the process by which heritable traits that make it more likely for an organism to survive and successfully reproduce become more common in a population over successive generations. It is a key mechanism of evolution.
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So, if that's the case, then flipper armed kids must possess some sort of trait that would make them more desirable to mate with.
Evolution would state that only people with desirable traits would have those traits passed down to future generations. Natural Selection would have you believe that only pretty people should mate, unfortunately, natural selection doesn't take "settling" into account.
How does settling affect natural selection/evolution? Would that eventually produce a species of pretty people and a species of ugly fat people? Why are humans the only species that has pity sex?
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 04:37 PM
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...I guess since he didn't have real arms I was his only outlet.
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I think you mean inlet.
Interestingly enough... thalidomide is being re-introduced into the medical market as it has therapeutic value for sufferers of certain dire conditions. There are many mysteries to the beautiful world our Lord has given us and it is important we study them with a good dollop of the common sense he gave many of us... remembering that we were created in his image.
As for the victims of thalidomide, it is our duty as Christians to treat them with the utmost love and dignity and not as if they were circus freaks in some corn-husker bumpkin village.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 04:47 PM
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Doesn't this pretty much disprove evolution?
According to wiki
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wiki?
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So, if that's the case, then flipper armed kids must possess some sort of trait that would make them more desirable to mate with.
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The point is that a trait, desirable or not, has been introduced into the hereditary lines of the parent by an external variable (his mother taking thalidomide) and made its way to the next generation.
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Evolution would state that only people with desirable traits would have those traits passed down to future generations.
Natural Selection would have you believe that only pretty people should mate, unfortunately, natural selection doesn't take "settling" into account.
How does settling affect natural selection/evolution? Would that eventually produce a species of pretty people and a species of ugly fat people? Why are humans the only species that has pity sex?
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evolution has nothing to do with pretty or ugly people, since those genes dont really give anyone a survival advantage.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 05:21 PM
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In the 60's some pregnant women were given a drug containing thalidomide to help them with their pregnancy pains/discomfort.
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Yes, friend, that's what they were TOLD. But the truth is that these so-called thalidomide trials were actually tests conducted by Satanists, Wiccans, and Devil Worshippers, using perverted science, black magic voodoo medicines, Nazi medical experiments, and alchemy - in a bid to mutate children's DNA to that of Demons. They succeeded, thus the thalidomide children were born. Half-demon children with severe spastic retardations, and ugly deformed limbs.
Many Christians, I being one, firmly believe that the Anti-Christ will be borne to this Earth by mating a Thalidomide spastic, and a filthy Downs Syndrome retard. (Please see my forthcoming Publication - "Conclusive Proof - Retard's aren't even human" for more information)
These are what these so-called thalidomite drug trials were REALLY intended to produce - vessels for Lucifer - which was the TRUE reason these Satanic funded Masonic scientist's drugged pregnant women. I have seen a few Christian documentaries on this subject, and I can see no other plausable reason why these tests happened.
These creatures are truly Satanic. If any Christian has ever met one of these flipper-kids in person, they'll know what I mean.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 05:26 PM
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Yes, friend, that's what they were TOLD. But the truth is that these so-called thalidomide trials were actually tests conducted by Satanists, Wiccans, and Devil Worshippers, using perverted science, black magic voodoo medicines, Nazi medical experiments, and alchemy - in a bid to mutate children's DNA to that of Demons. They succeeded, thus the thalidomide children were born. Half-demon children with severe spastic retardations, and ugly deformed limbs.
Many Christians, I being one, firmly believe that the Anti-Christ will be borne to this Earth by mating an ugly deformed Thalidomide spastic, and a filthy Downs Syndrome retard. (Please see my forthcoming Publication - "Conclusive Proof - Retard's aren't even human" for more information)
These are what these so-called thalidomite drug trials were REALLY intended to produce - vessels for Lucifer - which was the TRUE reason these Satanic funded Masonic scientist's drugged pregnant women. I have seen a few Christian documentaries on this subject, and I can see no other plausable reason why these tests happened.
These creatures are truly Satanic. If any Christian has ever met one of these flipper-kids in person, they'll know what I mean.
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you counter documented facts with wack job conspiracy theories and no supporting evidence, except that you've "seen a few Christian documentaries on this subject." Please establish credibility.
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09-28-2009, 05:41 PM
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you counter documented facts with wack job conspiracy theories and no supporting evidence, except that you've "seen a few Christian documentaries on this subject." Please establish credibility.
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You know, I am highly offended by this post. People who know me, know I am an expert on Retards, and often ask me to speak on the subject. As part of my work for my Church, I used to work as a volunteer at a retard care home, observing these vile instruments of Satan in the flesh. And more repuslive pieces of garbage you could not imagine.
They stink of urine and excrement, and soil themselves, touch themselves sexually in public, drool like wild animals, and many of them speak in grunts and make grotesque demonic noises. If you have ever witnessed one being violent to it's carers, you'll know what I mean. You just need to look into the eyes of a 'tard to know what it really is. The seed of Satan. The offspring of the Nephilim, the product of Satanic science experiments, and the result of women being raped by succubi. These creatures are truly demonic. Don't take my word for it, even scientists know these creatures aren't completely human. They are hybrids of humans and demons. You would be foolish to deny this.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 05:47 PM
If you were an expert, you'd know that down syndrome occurs when there is a set of the 21st chromosome, instead of just one.
Of course its only our primitive human instincts to fear and hate what you dont understand. Your credentials might give you more knowledge on the matter, but your personal opinion is surely shunting science for an easier to grasp explanation.
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Re: Thalidomide Children -
09-28-2009, 05:53 PM
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If you were an expert, you'd know that down syndrome occurs when there is a set of the 21st chromosome, instead of just one.
Of course its only our primitive human instincts to fear and hate what you dont understand. Your credentials might give you more knowledge on the matter, but your personal opinion is surely shunting science for an easier to grasp explanation.
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If you were a Christian, you'd know that God put that set of 21st chromosomes in the tard to punish its parents for being sinning heathens.
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