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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 07:55 AM
Practically all of you are the most retarded people on here....you are all hate mongerers. Why would some one choose to retarded....like REALLY. And anyone who says that being gay and being retarded are lifestyle choices, is also piffleing retarded. Being a vegan or a vegetarian or even a christian is a lifestyle choice. Next you people are going to say that being black is lifestyle choice. I am a gay man and I am proud to be such. My question to you guys, if sexuality was a choice, when did you choose to be straight, or for all of you, when did you choose to not be retarded? You all need to listen to Christ's teaching, you know, from when he was ALIVE, you know, like in the New Testiment. You guys pick and choose your scriptures, but how many of you women wear blue jeans, or how many of you wear polyester or nylon cloths, or eat catfish/bottom-dwelling fish, or eat animals without cloven hoves, and also how many of you married a woman who wasn't a virgin? You can't cherry pick your views. You either live by Christ's teachings as a whole.
The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.
Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).
Now all of you, from a Wiccan to Hatemongering Christians, May the Gods have mercy on your souls. *Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt not put any other GODS before me. Proving there that the big G acknowledges the existence of other beings like himself.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 08:08 AM
wow....I have two cousins who are autistic. The can't understand normal social and societial cues and standards. Most don't speak. They play with technology because it's something their brain understands. The brain is likened to the memory/hard drive of a computer. Their brains are the equivalent of what IBM's used to be, so it understands what is like itself. They aren't selfish, they are degenerate because of birth defects, not by choice. Maybe some of you do deserve to be shot, and maybe they are in a way god's messengers, sent to send scum like yourselves to the place you fear most. You mock those who are different than you. Judge those who's lifestyles are different from yours. You all go against what your God and your Savior taught you. They taught love, and all you do is hate.
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05-24-2013, 08:13 AM
So please, do tell me where in the hell Jesus said this in the New Testament, since that's what the piffle we're all supposed to live by.
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05-24-2013, 08:23 AM
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So please, do tell me where in the hell Jesus said this in the New Testament, since that's what the piffle we're all supposed to live by.
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What is it Jesus did not say? I'm having difficulty following your argument.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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05-24-2013, 08:25 AM
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What makes you say that children don't make lifestyle choices?
Are you seriously suggesting that this behavior is not a choice!?
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Old man, this is the result of bad *** potty language removed *** parenting.
Last edited by Zechariah Smyth; 05-24-2013 at 08:49 AM.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 08:47 AM
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If she is the sinner who brought about the LORD's message, then yes. If she is the child, grandchild, or great-grandchild of the sinner, then the LORD's curse is upon her for His glory (Numbers 14:18).
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This is what my argument is....Where in the bible did Jesus himself, the one who's teachings we are supposedly supposed to follow, say this?
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05-24-2013, 08:51 AM
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Old man, this is the result of bad *** potty language removed *** parenting.
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If you can't make your points without using potty language, you will be asked to leave.
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This is what my argument is....Where in the bible did Jesus himself, the one who's teachings we are supposedly supposed to follow, say this?
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Mrs. Etheldreda thougtfully provided the relevent Scripture for you.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 08:53 AM
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This is what my argument is....Where in the bible did Jesus himself, the one who's teachings we are supposedly supposed to follow, say this?
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The Bible is inspired and sanctioned by God who is Jesus.
What kind of Christian are you if you don't believe Jesus is God?
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 09:09 AM
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The Bible is inspired and sanctioned by God who is Jesus.
What kind of Christian are you if you don't believe Jesus is God?
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Point number one...My username is Homo Witch...not a christian here. >_>
Point number two...How can the son, be the father at the same time? Are you your own father?
Point number three...I wanted to know, where JESUS spoke the same words that were spoke in Numbers. Then and only then will your arguement be valid. Saying that Jesus is God is like saying your brother is your sister, it just doesn't work that way.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 09:20 AM
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Practically all of you are the most retarded people on here....you are all hate mongerers. Why would some one choose to retarded....like REALLY. And anyone who says that being gay and being retarded are lifestyle choices, is also piffleing retarded. Being a vegan or a vegetarian or even a christian is a lifestyle choice. Next you people are going to say that being black is lifestyle choice. I am a gay man and I am proud to be such. My question to you guys, if sexuality was a choice, when did you choose to be straight, or for all of you, when did you choose to not be retarded? You all need to listen to Christ's teaching, you know, from when he was ALIVE, you know, like in the New Testiment. You guys pick and choose your scriptures, but how many of you women wear blue jeans, or how many of you wear polyester or nylon cloths, or eat catfish/bottom-dwelling fish, or eat animals without cloven hoves, and also how many of you married a woman who wasn't a virgin? You can't cherry pick your views. You either live by Christ's teachings as a whole.
The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.
Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).
Now all of you, from a Wiccan to Hatemongering Christians, May the Gods have mercy on your souls. *Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt not put any other GODS before me. Proving there that the big G acknowledges the existence of other beings like himself.
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Lolz what is homersexuality? and how was a forcing my lifestyle on anyone. By saying that I'm proud to be a gay man?
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 09:23 AM
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Point number one...My username is Homo Witch...not a christian here. >_>
Point number two...How can the son, be the father at the same time? Are you your own father?
Point number three...I wanted to know, where JESUS spoke the same words that were spoke in Numbers. Then and only then will your arguement be valid. Saying that Jesus is God is like saying your brother is your sister, it just doesn't work that way.
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John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Words from the Big Man himself. Jesus says He and His Father are one. I don't know what more evidence you can ask for without moving the goalposts.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 09:25 AM
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Lolz what is homersexuality? and how was a forcing my lifestyle on anyone. By saying that I'm proud to be a gay man?
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So you're proud that you are going to Hell and by flaming this forum with your gaysexualism you may fool young impressionable young youths into sin?
That stinks.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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05-24-2013, 09:49 AM
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If you can't make your points without using potty language, you will be asked to leave.
Mrs. Etheldreda thougtfully provided the relevent Scripture for you.
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Lolz so where exactly do you go when you get hard-up for some male attention...you know ex-gays always revert....
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05-24-2013, 09:55 AM
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So you're proud that you are going to Hell and by flaming this forum with your gaysexualism you may fool young impressionable young youths into sin?
That stinks.
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Oh yeah...watch out I'm coming to turn all the kids into fags. lolz Clever use of the word flaming by the way. Btw, young youths is redundant. And yes I am so proud to be going to be going to your non-existant christian hell because guess what, I will let you in on a little secret bro. *whispers* We are already in hell....
I mean, look at the state the earth is in. No harmony, no unity, no love, no respect, no trust. All there is, is nothing but hate, fear, and greed. And if I do go to "Hell" well at least I'll have fun with all my friends and all my favourite bands. It'll be an awesome party...now you got me looking forward to it. I'm all giddy with anticipation.
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05-24-2013, 10:11 AM
Awwww...did I scare everyone away???
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 10:16 AM
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John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Words from the Big Man himself. Jesus says He and His Father are one. I don't know what more evidence you can ask for without moving the goalposts.
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I counter your rebuttal with this. To what respect did Jesus mean that he and the father are one. If the bible is interpreted in many ways, who's to say that you are right? It could mean that they are one in moral beliefs? They are one person? They are at one with the force? etc. It's all how you look at it sir.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 12:21 PM
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I counter your rebuttal with this. To what respect did Jesus mean that he and the father are one. If the bible is interpreted in many ways, who's to say that you are right? It could mean that they are one in moral beliefs? They are one person? They are at one with the force? etc. It's all how you look at it sir.
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Having to rely on post modernist constructive revisionism to make your point is the mark of a poor thinker.
Jesus and God are one. What other meaning could it have? And talking about the force from Star Wars is the logical fallacy of 'muddying the waters'.
If you cannot use non fallacious points in your assertions you fail logic 101.
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1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 02:43 PM
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Old man, this is the result of bad *** potty language removed *** parenting.
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So we can clearly agree it is by choice, in this case the parent's choice!
Freedom means voting for Donald Trump!
To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 03:09 PM
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I counter your rebuttal with this. To what respect did Jesus mean that he and the father are one. If the bible is interpreted in many ways, who's to say that you are right? It could mean that they are one in moral beliefs? They are one person? They are at one with the force? etc. It's all how you look at it sir.
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Friend, only a fool who thinks he knows better than God would ever even consider 'interpreting' the Holy Bible.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.
Proverbs 18:6
A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes.
Proverbs 26:3-12
3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.
4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.
7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.
8 As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.
9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools.
10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.
12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
Proverbs 28:26
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
05-24-2013, 07:37 PM
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So we can clearly agree it is by choice, in this case the parent's choice!
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I agree that there are some people that do choose to live a certain way, honey-boo-boo though is an example of poor parenting skills. Down's on the other hand, is a genetic disorder, not a lifestyle choice. Being a hippie, a vegan, or a vegetarian are lifestyle choices.
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