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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 02:35 AM

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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 02:49 AM

Q: Oh, and who do you think the Wiccan "Horned God" really is?

A: The Sun God, not Satan. That is where Christians got Satan from.


Q: Am I on a Wiccan forum judging you, or are you on a Christian forum judging us?

A: I am on a Christian forum. It does not matter judging something is still judging, no matter where it is.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 02:56 AM

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Am I on a Wiccan forum judging you, or are you on a Christian forum judging us?


It doesn't matter if you believe in him. He believes in you.

Oh, and who do you think the Wiccan "Horned God" really is?


No, they don't. Catholicism was invented by a Roman emperor who slapped a thin veneer of Christianity over Roman paganism to create a new state religion, then proceeded to persecute all of the real Christians (Baptists).

Catholics worship Ashtoreth, the Queen of Heaven, but they call her "Mary". Their god isn't the Christian God (the REAL God) -- their God is Baal. Baal and Ashtoreth were the main deities of the Canaanites. Baal means "Lord" and Ashtoreth means "Lady". Today, Wiccans refer to them as the "Lord" and "Lady".

I've got a surprise for you, but you never left Catholicism. You just refer to the gods by different names now.

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Ge:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Now just how is anything going to come before that?

Well I believe in evolution created the universe. Not your god.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:00 AM

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My dear, Satan doesn't need you to believe in him.

Any soul tempted away from Jesus becomes Satan's to torment at death. It doesn't matter if you call yourself Wiccan, or Catholic, or Buddhist, or Hare Krishna, or Scientologist, or Quaker. If you're not following the entire Bible, you're Hellbound and may as well be worshipping Satan.

Ah, so you DID read Teen Witch!

Pastors, can we change her name to Wiccabunny Ravenfluff?

Your vulgarity is not appropriate. This is a Christian church forum. You came here voluntarily; why are you here, if not to learn about Jesus? Are you here to try to convince us to abandon our faith?

I'd very much like to hear your response to this, as well.

Hitoshi?!

No I did not read Teen Witch. I do not want you to abandon your faith, just to learn to have tolerance and be understanding. No you cannot change my name to that. You can change it back to Wolfspirit1989. I said to that guy that I hate pornos and that he is perverted. I also told him that there is no way I will ever like him. Someone changed what I said.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:01 AM

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Q: Oh, and who do you think the Wiccan "Horned God" really is?

A: The Sun God, not Satan.
Since when does the sun have horns?


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A: I am on a Christian forum. It does not matter judging something is still judging, no matter where it is.
So it's OK for you to judge our faith, but not OK for us to judge yours?

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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:05 AM

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Do you know how to change your name back to the way it was? These immature people had to change my name because they think it is funny and have nothing else better to do. Thanks.
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Do you know how to change your name back to the way it was? These immature people had to change my name because they think it is funny and have nothing else better to do. Thanks.
He can't even find the "v" on his keyboard. What makes you think he can help you change your name? Why do you keep wanting to change it anyway?


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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:08 AM

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Since when does the sun have horns?



So it's OK for you to judge our faith, but not OK for us to judge yours?

Pastor Billy-Reuben

Never said it was ok for me to judge yours. You people think it is ok to judge mine. I was not here to judge. I was here to help you people learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society. It does not matter that the sun does not have horns, it is still the sun god.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:12 AM

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Do you know how to change your name back to the way it was? These immature people had to change my name because they think it is funny and have nothing else better to do. Thanks.
I'm afraid it's out of our hands. Brown-nosing the moderators might do the trick, but you probably have too much dignitie for that.

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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:12 AM

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He can't even find the "v" on his keyboard. What makes you think he can help you change your name? Why do you keep wanting to change it anyway?
These people are changing my name. When I signed up my name was WolfCrap1989. He is a friend and I am sure he can help me. If not then I have other friends that can.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:15 AM

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I'm afraid it's out of our hands. Brown-nosing the moderators might do the trick, but you probably have too much dignitie for that.

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You mean they can do whatever they want to! That is not right. Yes I do have more dignity than that. I will never bow down to these moderators and people.


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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:16 AM

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Never said it was ok for me to judge yours. You people think it is ok to judge mine. I was not here to judge. I was here to help you people learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society. It does not matter that the sun does not have horns, it is still the sun god.
Do you not comprehend that God commands us to KILL WITCHES?

Being "tolerant", as you put it, IS abandoning God.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for you to answer Brother Bathfire's request to "sell" us on Wicca. Why would you choose it over Jesus?


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Never said it was ok for me to judge yours. You people think it is ok to judge mine. I was not here to judge. I was here to help you people learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society.
Then aren't you are judging us to be intolerant and non-understanding?

Our religious faith requires us to be intolerant of other religions. If you are wanting to change that, then you must have judged our faith to be in error. How is that different from us judging your faith to be in error?

Do you also go to Muslim forums and try to help them "learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society", or do you just pick on Christians?

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Sister Jenny, I'm afraid this young lady is interested in wicka because she wants to be "hip" and "with it", as they say on the streets. Unfortunately for her and her friends, the very things that make her "cool" here on earth will make her burning hot when she finds herself in Hell for all of Eternity.


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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:22 AM

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Do you not comprehend that God commands us to KILL WITCHES?

Being "tolerant", as you put it, IS abandoning God.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for you to answer Brother Bathfire's request to "sell" us on Wicca. Why would you choose it over Jesus?

Because my religion is not strict and I am allowed to speak my mind instead of letting a man control everything I do. Plus my religion is a earth/nature based religion. Everyone else in society is tolerant and understanding. No being tolerant is not abandoning your god. You cannot let any religion control your life which is what you are letting yours do, you are taking it too far and too seriously.
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Then aren't you are judging us to be intolerant and non-understanding?

Our religious faith requires us to be intolerant of other religions. If you are wanting to change that, then you must have judged our faith to be in error. How is that different from us judging your faith to be in error?

Do you also go to Muslim forums and try to help them "learn to be tolerant and understanding like the rest of this society", or do you just pick on Christians?

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Because my religion is not strict and I am allowed to speak my mind instead of letting a man control everything I do. Plus my religion is a earth/nature based religion. Everyone else in society is tolerant and understanding. No being tolerant is not abandoning your god. You cannot let any religion control your life which is what you are letting yours do, you are taking it too far and too seriously.
How can one take following the laws specifically given to Man by his Creator "too far"?

If your goal is simply praising the earth and maybe humans, then why not be a secular humanist, instead of all this magic nonsense? After all, if you think one can take obeying one's God "too far", then I must only imagine that you do not take Wicca very seriously. After all, you chose it because it was convenient, rather than because you believe it to be Truth.


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You mean they can do whatever they want to! That is not right.
It's OUR Christian moderators on OUR Christian forum you stupid stupid stupid sssssssssssstupid, b*tch.


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Sister Jenny, I'm afraid this young lady is interested in wicka because she wants to be "hip" and "with it", as they say on the streets. Unfortunately for her and her friends, the very things that make her "cool" here on earth will make her burning hot when she finds herself in Hell for all of Eternity.
Yeah I do not give a shit about being hip or cool. That is not why I am Wiccan, so little do you know. Oh yes I am going to hell for believing in what I want to believe in and for being who I am. Sorry in my religion there is no hell, there is something called the spirit world which is where everyone goes. To people like you it would be heaven. By the way there is a law that we abide by too if you did not know that. Here I will show you:


The Wiccan Rede
Bide the Wiccan Laws ye must

In perfect love and perfect trust.
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fufill,
An ye harm none, do what ye will.
Lest in thy self-defense it be,
Ever mind the rule of three.
Follow this in mind and heart,
And Merry Meet and Merry Part!


AND HERE IS THE ORIGIN OF IT:


The original source for at least part of the Wiccan Rede appears to be by a 16th century novelist, François Rabelais.
"DO AS THOU WILT because men that are free, of gentle birth, well bred and at home in civilized company possess a natural instinct that inclines them to virtue and saves them from vice. This instinct they name their honor." 8
This concept appears to have been adopted by Aleister Crowley (1875-1947) in his Law of Thelema which is contained in his 1904 book Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law). Many believe that Crowley received the text of the Law from an angelic entity named Aiwass:
"Who calls us Thelemites will do no wrong, if he look but close into the word. For there are therein Three Grades, the Hermit, and the Lover, and the man of Earth. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." 9
Later in the Book of the Law is a verse which states: "Invoke me under my stars! Love is the law, love under will. Nor let the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove, and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen, knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of God." 10
Excerpts from these two verses are sometimes quoted together as two commandments: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." "Love is the law, love under will."
Ellie Crystal writes: "Most Thelemites hold that every person possesses a True Will, a single overall motivation for their existence. The Law of Thelema mandates that each person follow their True Will to attain fulfillment in life and freedom from restriction of their nature. Because no two True Wills can be in real conflict ...this Law also prohibits one from interfering with the True Will of any other person." 11
Crowley initiated Gerald Gardiner into the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) in 1946. Gardner may have taken the phrase from Rabelais and Crowley: "do what thou wilt," grafted it onto a clear, unambiguous expression to do no harm, and produced the Wiccan Rede as we know it today.
An alternative explanation is that the Rede was extracted directly from the Wiccan Credo which some Wiccans believe was written circa 1910 CE by Adriana Porter.
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Default Re: Why Wicca is nonsense - 05-12-2008, 03:36 AM

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It's OUR Christian moderators on OUR Christian forum you stupid stupid stupid sssssssssssstupid, b*tch.


And to top it off you worship a f*cking ball of fire in the sky and the dirt you tread on. PURE STUPIDITY!! I don't know why I'm even surprised you think moderators shouldn't be able to moderate!!!

That is not moderating when you change someones name. That is called being immature and being a**holes.
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