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Default Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-14-2010, 03:54 AM

Well look at THIS pile of malarkey being passed off as "fact" by the monkey-worshiping scientists now. And notice how they keep changing their story? Once we were told that we all had gorillas for grandparents. Now they want us to believe that every single form of life hatched from the same egg bazillions of years ago!

That must have been one big egg!

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Creationism called "absolutely horrible hypothesis"—statistically speaking

All life on Earth evolved from a single-celled organism that lived roughly 3.5 billion years ago, a new study seems to confirm.

The study supports the widely held "universal common ancestor" theory first proposed by Charles Darwin more than 150 years ago.

Using computer models and statistical methods, biochemist Douglas Theobald calculated the odds that all species from the three main groups, or "domains," of life evolved from a common ancestor—versus, say, descending from several different life-forms or arising in their present form, Adam and Eve style.

The domains are bacteria, bacteria-like microbes called Archaea, and eukaryotes, the group that includes plants and other multicellular species, such as humans.

The "best competing multiple ancestry hypothesis" has one species giving rise to bacteria and one giving rise to Archaea and eukaryotes, said Theobald, a biochemist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts.

But, based on the new analysis, the odds of that are "just astronomically enormous," he said. "The number's so big, it's kind of silly to say it"—1 in 10 to the 2,680th power, or 10 followed by 2,680 zeros.

Theobald also tested the creationist idea that humans arose in their current form and have no evolutionary ancestors.

The statistical analysis showed that the independent origin of humans is "an absolutely horrible hypothesis," Theobald said, adding that the probability that humans were created separately from everything else is 1 in 10 to the 6,000th power.

Putting Darwin to the Test

All species in all three domains share 23 universal proteins, though the proteins' DNA sequences—instructions written in the As, Cs, Gs, and Ts of DNA bases—differ slightly among the three domains (quick genetics overview).

The 23 universal proteins perform fundamental cellular activities, such as DNA replication and the translation of DNA into proteins, and are crucial to the survival of all known life-forms—from the smallest microbes to blue whales.

A universal common ancestor is generally assumed to be the reason the 23 proteins are as similar as they are, Theobald said.

That's because, if the original protein set was the same for all creatures, a relatively small number of mutations would have been needed to arrive at the modern proteins, he said. If life arose from multiple species—each with a different set of proteins—many more mutations would have been required.

But Theobald hoped to go beyond conventional wisdom.

"What I wanted to do was not make the assumption that similar traits imply a shared ancestry ... because we know that's not always true," Theobald said.

"For instance, you could get similarities that are not due to common ancestry but that are due to natural selection"—that is, when environmental forces, such as predators or climate, result in certain mutations taking hold, such as claws or thicker fur.

Biologists call the independent development of similar traits in different lineages "convergent evolution." The wings of bats, birds, and insects are prime examples: They perform similar functions but evolved independently of one another.

But it's highly unlikely that the protein groups would have independently evolved into such similar DNA sequences, according to the new study, to be published tomorrow in the journal Nature.

"I asked, What's the probability that I would see a human DNA polymerase [protein] sequence and another protein with an E. coli DNA polymerase sequence?" he explained.

"It turns out that probability is much higher if you use the hypothesis that [humans and E. coli] are actually related."

No Special Treatment for Evolutionary Theory?

David Penny, an evolutionary biologist at Massey University in New Zealand, called the grand scope of Theobald's study "bold."

Penny had been part of a similar, but more narrowly focused, study in the 1980s. His team had looked at shared proteins in mammals and concluded that different mammalian species are likely descended from a common ancestor.

Testing the theory of universal common ancestry is important, because biologists should question their major tenets just as scientists in other fields do, said Penny, who wasn't part of the new study.

"Evolution," he said, "should not be given any special status."
I beg to differ. Evolution should be given a very special status: Satanic LIES!


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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-14-2010, 04:47 AM

I'm going to ask this question again because it has never been answered.

We have single celled and billion celled creatures. We have single celled and billion celled fossils. Where are the creatures and the fossils of the in betweens? Did a billion cells just decide to get together and become a mushroom one day? When did the cells decide to get together and become a T-rex or a human being?

And once again, where did that first cell come from?


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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-14-2010, 05:04 AM

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All life on Earth evolved from a single-celled organism that lived roughly 3.5 billion years ago, a new study seems to confirm.

The study supports the widely held "universal common ancestor" theory first proposed by Charles Darwin more than 150 years ago.

Using computer models and statistical methods, biochemist Douglas Theobald calculated the odds that all species from the three main groups, or "domains," of life evolved from a common ancestor—versus, say, descending from several different life-forms or arising in their present form, Adam and Eve style.
Okay, now the atheist scientists are going too far. It's one thing to say that we descended from chimpanzees, because even though that theory is false, we do share many physical features, so I can see why the scientists would get confused...but they're saying we're descended from plants and bacteria? So the banana and cereal I had for breakfast this morning are my cousins? And when my maid washed out the bowl afterwards with anti-bacterial soap, she was committing mass murder against her uncles and aunts?



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The domains are bacteria, bacteria-like microbes called Archaea, and eukaryotes, the group that includes plants and other multicellular species, such as humans.

The "best competing multiple ancestry hypothesis" has one species giving rise to bacteria and one giving rise to Archaea and eukaryotes, said Theobald, a biochemist at Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts.
Brandeis University was founded by a Jew so I claim bias. If they were to interview someone from a good Christian foundation like the Discovery Institute, everyone would be up in arms about bias and non-objectivity. Well, it works both ways here doesn't it?

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But, based on the new analysis, the odds of that are "just astronomically enormous," he said. "The number's so big, it's kind of silly to say it"—1 in 10 to the 2,680th power, or 10 followed by 2,680 zeros.

Theobald also tested the creationist idea that humans arose in their current form and have no evolutionary ancestors.

The statistical analysis showed that the independent origin of humans is "an absolutely horrible hypothesis," Theobald said, adding that the probability that humans were created separately from everything else is 1 in 10 to the 6,000th power.
First off, I don't know where they are getting their numbers from. They don't explain how they arrived at that exact amount or what their methods were. This is just pseudoscience, plain and simple.

And, even if the odds that humans were created by God were 1 in 10^6000, that doesn't make it not true! If so, we truly are indeed a miracle. God is not limited by statistics. He didn't sit down with scientists and consult with them if it was stastically feasible -- He simply made it happen.

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Putting Darwin to the Test

All species in all three domains share 23 universal proteins, though the proteins' DNA sequences—instructions written in the As, Cs, Gs, and Ts of DNA bases—differ slightly among the three domains (quick genetics overview).

The 23 universal proteins perform fundamental cellular activities, such as DNA replication and the translation of DNA into proteins, and are crucial to the survival of all known life-forms—from the smallest microbes to blue whales.
So just because we share 23 (out of the millions) of proteins with simple life forms, they conclude we had the same ancestor? Ever stop to think that it's just a coincidence? Or maybe God had a good design going and put it on multiple species instead of making a new protein for each one?

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A universal common ancestor is generally assumed to be the reason the 23 proteins are as similar as they are, Theobald said.
When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me. This is the difference between atheist scientists and Bible-believing Christians. They assume what they know is true. We know what we know is true!

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Biologists call the independent development of similar traits in different lineages "convergent evolution." The wings of bats, birds, and insects are prime examples: They perform similar functions but evolved independently of one another.

But it's highly unlikely that the protein groups would have independently evolved into such similar DNA sequences, according to the new study, to be published tomorrow in the journal Nature.
Massive logical failure right here! Ok so the scientists admit that highly complex organs like wings can be created by convergent evolution. But a simple protein cannot? What are they thinking?

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"Evolution," he said, "should not be given any special status."
The only statement I agree with. It should not be given special status and become the sole theory for the creation of life in school classrooms.



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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-14-2010, 05:17 AM

Next thing they gonna say we evolve from dust.. Which is partly correct, God made Adam out of dust and with His breathe. We descended from Adam.

Funny to think that they have to change things like their "evidences" around jsut to fit their godless theory. The thought of God the Creator never NEVER come across their mind.

Or they are willingly ignorant, which like what Bro. Kent Hovind said "dumb on purpose"..
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That's all I can say about this egg subject.
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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-15-2010, 06:43 PM

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Okay, now the atheist scientists are going too far. It's one thing to say that we descended from chimpanzees, because even though that theory is false, we do share many physical features, so I can see why the scientists would get confused....
I agree Reverend! At least we have chimpanzees around for the comparison... I wanna know where this egg is! If they had a gigantic egg to show everybody, some fools might actually believe these lies.


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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-15-2010, 10:23 PM

Think about it: If they didn't keep changing their lie, then they wouldn't get paid. It's all about the arch-atheists trying to reap financial gain from their brain dead followers, nothing more then smoke and mirrors.

Could you imagine how much better the world would be if this money went to the baptist church? It would certainly please God...


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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 05-19-2010, 03:41 PM

As usual, secular science fails miserably, because of their structural misapplication of statistical analysis, and their stubborn ignorance of True Science™.

In this research, a third hypothesis should be considered: what would be the odds of a particular species arising as a result of God saying "Let there be <that particular species>?"

Let's take a look at God's track record, according to True Science™:

Genesis 1:3:
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Genesis 1:6-7:
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Genesis 1:11:
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Genesis 1:14-15:
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Genesis 1:24:
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

We can see here five examples of God saying "let there be <something>," and He has a success rate of 100%, much bigger than the probability of all life "creating itself" from some common ancestor. This clearly proves that God created everything seperately.


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And once again, where did that first cell come from?
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I agree Reverend! At least we have chimpanzees around for the comparison... I wanna know where this egg is! If they had a gigantic egg to show everybody, some fools might actually believe these lies.
There isn't an egg, it's cells.
You know, the basic unit that makes up life on this planet?
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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 01-16-2016, 10:39 PM

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Well look at THIS pile of malarkey being passed off as "fact" by the monkey-worshiping scientists now. And notice how they keep changing their story? Once we were told that we all had gorillas for grandparents. Now they want us to believe that every single form of life hatched from the same egg bazillions of years ago!

That must have been one big egg!
True to form, pastor, these evolutionists are at it again! They've changed their minds once again to pronounce that we all came from worms! Just like you can't change a leopard's spots, you can't expect an evolutionist to be consistent.

Notice how they find the most phallic looking specimin to decide is their great-great-great grandfather.







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True to form, pastor, these evolutionists are at it again! They've changed their minds once again to pronounce that we all came from worms! Just like you can't change a leopard's spots, you can't expect an evolutionist to be consistent.

Notice how they find the most phallic looking specimin to decide is their great-great-great grandfather.



Exciting observations, Sister Mary. Our research team had unfortunately (Psalms 38:18) missed this piece of news and - I am sorry to say - it caused initially some alarm among our junior Creation Scientists who are not yet as well-versed in Biblical Studies as we more established scholars are.

Actually, they made a point about worms that may change forever our ideas about the two God-Created sexes of Mankind. The question that was raised is as follows:
  • Are there any data that seem to support the evolutionists' view of the worm-man connection?
Actually, there SEEMS to be. My young eager scholars did a magnificent job (pun intended; you'll understand it in due course) in searching the Bible for evidence in only a few hours. This is what they discovered:

Job 17:14
I have said to corruption, Thou art my father: to the worm, Thou art my mother, and my sister.


It is evident that the first part of the verse should be read metaphorically, as "corruption" is an abstract noun that cannot really produce semen. However, the second part seems to suggest that worms indeed are deeply embedded within our ancestry? Especially from our mothers' side! I can relate to this personally, as my mother at almost 80 is still "dating" and fornicating like the harlot she is (Leviticus 21:14).

Fortunately, the story continues.

Job 25:6
How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?


Here, in contrast to the previous verse, it is revealed that the men who are referred to as worms are actually worms. There is no more talk about ancestry. This refers to the corruption of the previous verse. These men have lost their human characteristics and are thus no longer men heading for Salvation but lowly automatons, animals that have no soul. No wonder there is only a 70% similarity between the DNA of these degenerated life-forms and the actual Men Created by God (Genesis 1:26). This is an example of genetic entropy, devolution that is caused by sin (Genesis 3:6). Who committed it? The WOMAN (Genesis 3:6). The woman, who was Created SEPARATELY from the man.

Genesis 2:22
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


Only one rib was taken. I am sure that one day the atheist scientists will discover that the difference between the DNA of men and woman is actually quite large. It must be, as only some portion of a man's DNA would fit into a rib. Thus, a woman would not receive the whole manly genome. I'd say that she would receive about 70%. Let us compare this to your reference, Sister Mary:

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A study published Wednesday in Nature reports that the common ancestor of today's slimy marine worms shared some 70 percent of our genes.
Taken together, the data show with absolute certainty that men and worms were Created separately. Confirmation is obviously in the Bible:

Psalms 22:6
But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.


Those who are worms are the result of sin and degeneration, not Creation. This is True™ of mankind, the male humans. How about women? By now we know that only those portions of DNA that code for the general bipedal outward appearance of men were transmitted to the women and the 30% that was excluded must have coded for the higher intellectual functions and the Godly tallywhacker that allows us to fulfill God's Commands (Genesis 1:28). What does all this tell about women? We'll we saw that above, didn't we?

Job 17:14
I have said to corruption, Thou art my father: to the worm, Thou art my mother, and my sister.


Similar DNA does not indicate common descent, it indicates a Common Designer, Jesus. The 70% similarity means that as men degenerate due to sin they lose the same portions of DNA that were excluded when Women were Created. The verse of Job rings True™ regarding women. By God's miracle, boy children receive the DNA of their fathers, as well, to produce a new generation of full humans. Men and women are thus separate Creations. Women have DNAs that are practically identical with these worms and this explains why they have very different positions in the ladder of life (1 Corinthians 11:8) that strives to be united with Jesus once more and gain the backstage pass into Heaven by the Throne of Jesus!


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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 01-17-2016, 10:20 PM

Sounds like a crazy theory to me considering that chickens are still around.
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Default Re: Latest Evolutionist Lies: We All Hatched From The Same Egg - 01-18-2016, 08:04 PM

Scientists keep making the exact same mistake time and time again.

Similarity is an indication of non-randomness rather than randomness. Imagine if you had to create a car, would you first reinvent the wheel? Or would you reuse an existing design of a wheel?

If a worm and a fish have gill slits then a very smart being managed to reuse existing components in very disimilar situations. If humans and bacteria have the same proteins, then there must've been some incredible foresight to be able to use the same proteins in such distinct creatures.

All this is proof of an intelligent, guided Creation, while it disproves utterly the "theory" that randomness and evolution could've led to life in all it's diversity.

For further reading I suggest Genesis 1 and 2, which treat this subject in exquisite detail and accuracy.


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