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01-27-2012, 07:35 AM
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The animals were all part of the food chain, why did they not eat each other?
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Since seven of many of the animals went in then it wouldn't have been a problem if a few of them got eaten.
Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
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01-27-2012, 09:00 AM
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Since seven of many of the animals went in then it wouldn't have been a problem if a few of them got eaten.
Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
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Uh... "by sevens" means that fourteen of each clean animal went in, doesn't it? The male and his female by sevens.
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01-28-2012, 02:41 AM
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So Jesus stopped them from eating each other? Thought as much.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-28-2012, 06:07 AM
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So Jesus stopped them from eating each other? Thought as much.
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The point is, God had a way to repopulate the earth after the flood and the proof has been found. Proof of God's mercy is undeniable: After killing every man, woman, child, donkey, puppy, and butterfly, along with all the other animals, plants, and people of the earth save who were on the Ark, God provided them with dry land to live and repopulate the earth! His mercy knows no bounds!
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-28-2012, 06:55 AM
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So Jesus stopped them from eating each other? Thought as much.
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Have you ever been to a zoo?
How do they keep the lions and tigers from eating the kangaroos and the penguins?
What's that you say, they keep them separate?
Did you think all these animals were just dumped into the bottom of a boat to smush together for an entire year? Noah and his sons had 100 years to build the ark. They were able to build multiple floors, with pens, and ways to handle feeding and removing manure, and places to stockpile food.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-28-2012, 07:11 AM
We're losing sight of the trump card that blows all of this secular whining out of the (ahem) water. The whole thing was under the direct supervision of God. As we all know, God can do anything.
I really can't see why we need to keep explaining that sorting out problems like food for a year and poop removal for millions of animals and stopping them eating each other or catching diseases or going insane from close confinement or the mice and rabbits breeding like crazy or the birds escaping and flying off to be lost forever or the termites eating the ark itself and so on are simply minor matters for God.
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01-28-2012, 09:11 AM
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We're losing sight of the trump card that blows all of this secular whining out of the (ahem) water. The whole thing was under the direct supervision of God. As we all know, God can do anything.
I really can't see why we need to keep explaining that sorting out problems like food for a year and poop removal for millions of animals and stopping them eating each other or catching diseases or going insane from close confinement or the mice and rabbits breeding like crazy or the birds escaping and flying off to be lost forever or the termites eating the ark itself and so on are simply minor matters for God.
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Atheists will find problems with anything. They are just blind to the truth. I was talking to some fool the other day who couldn't accept that penguins may have walked up Africa and across the Sahara to get to the Ark. If it is God's will then of course it is possible. Food wouldn't have been a problem.
If God could drop manna bread from the sky to feed the Israelites in the desert I can't see why dropping a few fish should be a problem for Him.
Genesis 16:4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you;
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
10-08-2012, 06:34 AM
Genesis 6:16 A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower, second, and third stories shalt thou make it.
As a former backslider, there was actually a time I doubted how this could float myself.
And then I started to ask myself how one small window above could adequately ventilate and
provide enough light to all three stories The dinosaurs logically would have been on the lower story creating an enormous amount of waste which was below the waterline, thus needing to be removed manually(pulleys, friendly dinosaurs helping maybe). I guess Noah could have left the waste down there for compost to grow a garden for sustenance but that would be a lot of weight-oh yeah, the weight was already on board in the form of food. But then getting light down there would be tricky considering how dark it was outside of the ark. The one small window in the ark could not have afforded much light even if it was open which is unlikely considering the amount of water falling from above.
I guess they could have had candles for light, but the vast amount of methane in the air from all of the dung seems like an explosive combo! Breathing would have been tough tending to their daily chores with all of the stench and water vapor in the air.
After wisely rededicating my life to the Lord I laid aside my foolish questions, no more doubting and worrying about the details-I finally realized the true meaning of the term "the devils in the details". After praying forgiveness for foolishly questioning God, he graciously revealed to me that since he was so busy doing miracles on the ark, his presence was so strong that he naturally emitted light that helped all the animals, 8 human passengers and plants not only meagerly survive,but flourish amidst the tumultuous situation that God so lovingly presented to them, by sparing their lives! Wow-praise Jesus for his provisions of bestowing knowledge on our true, actual history
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
10-08-2012, 02:47 PM
Good points all, Mark--When ever I go to another nearby city for meetings, someone wants to start arguing about the Bible. One of their favorite topics is Noah's Ark.
One guy said, "Not only did it have to be big enough to house giraffes and dinosaurs, it had to be twice that big so the males could hump the females."
Then, another wise-acre said, "What did the vegetarian animals eat after the ark landed, all the vegetation had been downed?"
It takes all my patience to explain Noah kept the males and females separate, at least during their breeding time. And, Noah put grass seed on board and sewed it right after landing. Those animals needing grass lived off what was left over on the ark until the new growth was ready.
I don't know why people can't just do a little basic reasoning and conclude the ark story is factual history. If they had doubts, they need to get over it.
Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
10-08-2012, 03:56 PM
I just don't understand why so many people seem to think a wooden boat wouldn't float.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-03-2013, 07:54 AM
I had some atheist preacher start going on at me the other day about beaches as if this disproves the story. Apparently beaches are full of stuff living just under the sand that needs it to be wet and dry twice a day with seawater and for that seawater to wash food onto the beach for them to eat. This is the tides. Tides come in, tides go out; we all know that. They say that all of them would have drowned and Noah would have had to go to all the beaches in all the world personally to collect these creatures that are unique to the beaches they live on then go back and replace them because they can't walk, fly or swim.
Well I went down onto a beach with him and there wasn't a critter to be seen. He went quite red and started spluttering when I told him this and started muttering under his breath. I think it might have been a prayer to the Devil.
Anyways, he then said that they live under the sand, so I started to dig. The sand got wetter as I went down, but no critters! You know what he said next? "They can sense you digging and move away from you. It's an adaptation to avoid predators." Yeah, that's right folks. Beach wolves exist according to this loon. All sounds a bit too convenient and like he's making it up as he goes along then coming up with excuse after excuse when there's no evidence? Yup, did to me, too.
So, friends, non-existent creatures living in dead sand prove the Bible is a lie.
I just left him on the beach holding a handful of sea shells and yelling about them being proof. They wash up on beaches all the time, any fool knows that...
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-03-2013, 12:58 PM
Here's all the proof you need. The ark has been found exactly where the Qur'an said it would be. As you would expect, the Bible was wrong about it's location being Mt Ararat.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-04-2013, 04:23 AM
The kooran is of satan. Everyone knows it. I wouldn't believe the kooran if it said the sky was blue.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-04-2013, 11:31 AM
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The kooran is of satan. Everyone knows it. I wouldn't believe the kooran if it said the sky was blue.
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There are no errors in the Qur’an. There is always an explanation. That video asks, “Who was the first Muslim – Moses (pigs be upon him) or Muhammad (pigs be upon him)?” If you mean the first Muslim ever, it was Adam. But Moses (pigs be upon him) was the first Israelite to believe, as Muhammad (pigs be upon him) was the first among his own people to believe. No contradiction there. The Bible however is full of errors.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-04-2013, 12:35 PM
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There are no errors in the Qur’an. There is always an explanation. That video asks, “Who was the first Muslim – Moses (pigs be upon him) or Muhammad (pigs be upon him)?” If you mean the first Muslim ever, it was Adam. But Moses (pigs be upon him) was the first Israelite to believe, as Muhammad (pigs be upon him) was the first among his own people to believe. No contradiction there. The Bible however is full of errors.
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Get lost, Abdul. You can't just go around saying that there are errors in the Bible and expect people to just suck it up and agree, then run away to worship your moon god. I notice you haven't exactly shown these "errors" anywhere.
Meanwhile your precious kooran is full of stupidity.
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71:1 Lo! We sent Noah unto his people (saying): Warn thy people ere the painful doom come unto them. 71:2 He said: O my people! Lo! I am a plain warner unto you 71:3 (Bidding you): Serve Allah and keep your duty unto Him and obey me, 71:4 That He may forgive you somewhat of your sins and respite you to an appointed term. Lo! the term of Allah, when it cometh, cannot be delayed, if ye but knew. 71:5 He said: My Lord! Lo! I have called unto my people night and day 71:6 But all my calling doth but add to their repugnance; 71:7 And lo! whenever I call unto them that Thou mayst pardon them they thrust their fingers in their ears and cover themselves with their garments and persist (in their refusal) and magnify themselves in pride. 71:8 And lo! I have called unto them aloud, 71:9 And lo! I have made public proclamation unto them, and I have appealed to them in private. 71:10 And I have said: Seek pardon of your Lord. Lo! He was ever Forgiving.
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Yet a careful look at the facts shows that Noah did not at any time warn any of the people to seek safety or to try to repent. He just got on with building the Ark as God commanded and that God never ever had any intention of leaving anyone alive except Noah and his family.
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01-05-2013, 02:27 PM
How did Noah fit all of amimals of world on ship
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01-05-2013, 02:53 PM
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How did Noah fit all of amimals of world on ship
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Read the Bible. He did it in twos.
Are you really so stupid as to not know that a man, instructed by God, would not build a large enough ship? How big do you think a baby elephant is? An ant?
Genesis 7:9
There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
Biblical Passages: Gen. 6-8; Matt. 24:37,38; Lk. 17:26,27; I Pet. 3:20;II Pet. 2:5.
The instructions for design are given in Gen. 6:14ff
With the shorter cubit the Ark would have an internal volume of 1,518,750 cubic feet, or the equivalent of 569 standard railroad boxcars. If the average sized animal was the size of a sheep it means the Ark could hold over 125,000 sheep. (Assuming the shape of the Ark to be rectangular there would have been over 100,000 sq. ft of floor space!)
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-05-2013, 10:45 PM
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Read the Bible. He did it in twos.
Are you really so stupid as to not know that a man, instructed by God, would not build a large enough ship? How big do you think a baby elephant is? An ant?
Genesis 7:9
There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
Biblical Passages: Gen. 6-8; Matt. 24:37,38; Lk. 17:26,27; I Pet. 3:20;II Pet. 2:5.
The instructions for design are given in Gen. 6:14ff
With the shorter cubit the Ark would have an internal volume of 1,518,750 cubic feet, or the equivalent of 569 standard railroad boxcars. If the average sized animal was the size of a sheep it means the Ark could hold over 125,000 sheep. (Assuming the shape of the Ark to be rectangular there would have been over 100,000 sq. ft of floor space!)
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Stil:
what did animals eat(anpesaly carnivores)?
How did some species senzitive to temperature temperature changes survived?
How did he get al the got two of each animal fro all of world?
What abaut fish?
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-05-2013, 10:53 PM
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Stil:
what did animals eat(anpesaly carnivores)?
How did some species senzitive to temperature temperature changes survived?
How did he get al the got two of each animal fro all of world?
What abaut fish?
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Don't be fooled of apparent flaws the Ark might of had.: John 7:24
God must've made it work, with some kind of divine technique we perhaps might not understand: Psalm 147:5
Noah's Ark was a reality.
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Re: PROOF: Noah's Ark Existed! -
01-05-2013, 10:54 PM
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Stil:
what did animals eat(anpesaly carnivores)?
How did some species senzitive to temperature temperature changes survived?
How did he get al the got two of each animal fro all of world?
What abaut fish?
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Fish swim in water, silly.
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