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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-12-2011, 04:59 AM

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Seriously, you're making the rest of us Christians look bad.
God doesn't love everybody:

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Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

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[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-28-2011, 07:12 PM

I know this is not a debating forum but I think for this topic we atheists have the right to express our disagreements, right.
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-29-2011, 04:15 AM

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I know this is not a debating forum but I think for this topic we atheists have the right to express our disagreements, right.
Wrong. You are not welcome here. Now shoo!

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"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

2 Chronicles 15:13
Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.




Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-29-2011, 06:45 AM

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Well I'm sorry that you had to go trought all the trouble of deleting my original comment. This forum isn't debating forum and I'm not here to debate. Anyhow, this topic is for debating quite obviouisly (the starter statet his facts and asked atheists to explain how they see this subject. I did that, that's called a debate). I haven't been mocking God by any means. I respect you and your God but He's not something I've yet experienced. Maybe someday I and then I'm more than happy to start a new life as a devoted Chrtisian. I find Christianity interesting and I think I've been behaving pretty good here for an atheist. I mean some of the comments made by other atheists are really hurtful and bad. And I know that since I'm not Christian I'm not really very desired here but I wish to continue chatting here because I want to learn more about your religion and Google really doesn't do it for me. And I've tried my best to be respectful towards you all. Hope the same in return.
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Well I'm sorry that you had to go trought all the trouble of deleting my original comment. This forum isn't debating forum and I'm not here to debate. Anyhow, this topic is for debating quite obviouisly (the starter statet his facts and asked atheists to explain how they see this subject. I did that, that's called a debate). I haven't been mocking God by any means. I respect you and your God but He's not something I've yet experienced. Maybe someday I and then I'm more than happy to start a new life as a devoted Chrtisian. I find Christianity interesting and I think I've been behaving pretty good here for an atheist. I mean some of the comments made by other atheists are really hurtful and bad. And I know that since I'm not Christian I'm not really very desired here but I wish to continue chatting here because I want to learn more about your religion and Google really doesn't do it for me. And I've tried my best to be respectful towards you all. Hope the same in return.
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Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-29-2011, 06:17 PM

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Question Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 03-31-2011, 05:31 AM

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#7 Throughout human history there have never been any other gods but God.
God is the only God humanity ever had. Sure various confused pagans called God by different names like Thor, Zeus, Angra Mainyu and Kali but that has always been God. The past was not atheists, it Was Christian.


I'm only familiar with Norse and Greek Mythology out of all those, but I'd like to point out that Thor and Zeus were just one of the multiple gods in the stories. What about the others? Were they your God too? Including the Goddesses? If Zeus is just god called by a different name, then you are saying your God repeatedly committed adultry against his wife, as Zeus did? And Odin (whom I'm assuming you meant instead of Thor, because Odin was the head god of the Norse stories) was interested sexually in Freyja [a Norse Goddess, NOT his wife {his wife being Frigg}] which means he was NOT your God, because your God does not approve such thoughts.

AND why do you not believe in Odin, Thor, Zeus, etc? It's been said that they are gods, and their stories have been around for awhile, so why do you choose to believe in YOUR god? What makes him any different than them? And blindly saying "because he IS God" is not a valid point, because I could say Zebras ARE pink, but that does not make it true. I'm actually curious, so please don't cop out and use that line?

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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-07-2011, 09:36 PM

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They were both atheists. Many millions of people have been killed because of wars started in the name of atheism.
Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Lol Millions have been killed by athiests? What about god himself?
Just type in how many people god killed and you'll get around 2,200,000+.

But this isn't a complete list since the bible leaves out alot of figures aka flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the firstborn Egyptian children, and women...so I'd say add on another 10 million....also a funny thing about the bible is that satan only killed 10 people...which god himself gave him permission to do...sooooo yea just add ten more to god's total

Now don't get me started with the crusades...spanish inquisition, every holy war in mankind since you think all those other gods were just jesus and his dad lol...let alone every person the Church had put to death for not being a christian...so yeaaaaa ill give you the millions and ill also give you the billions upon billions that Christians (i.e. since point #7 says all the other gods were actually god himself)...you know just writing this makes me wonder how a civilized person can actually take the bible serisouly...oh well
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Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Lol Millions have been killed by athiests? What about god himself?
Just type in how many people god killed and you'll get around 2,200,000+.

But this isn't a complete list since the bible leaves out alot of figures aka flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the firstborn Egyptian children, and women...so I'd say add on another 10 million....also a funny thing about the bible is that satan only killed 10 people...which god himself gave him permission to do...sooooo yea just add ten more to god's total

Now don't get me started with the crusades...spanish inquisition, every holy war in mankind since you think all those other gods were just jesus and his dad lol...let alone every person the Church had put to death for not being a christian...so yeaaaaa ill give you the millions and ill also give you the billions upon billions that Christians (i.e. since point #7 says all the other gods were actually god himself)...you know just writing this makes me wonder how a civilized person can actually take the bible serisouly...oh well
oops forgot to end that sentence properly, *ahem* Ill give you the millions that athiests have caused but then ill also give you the billions upon billions that christians have caused
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Hmm yea Hitler was a christian not an athiest...heres a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
In his public persona. In private he said things like this.

  • "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
    "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
    "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday

  • "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday

  • "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
    "Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
    "...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
    "Christianity <is> the liar....
    "We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State." (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night

  • "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

21st October, 1941, midday

  • "Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer....
    "The decisive falsification of Jesus' <who he asserts many times was never a Jew> doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation....
    "Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea." (p 63-65)

13th December, 1941, midnight

  • "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... <here insults people who believe transubstantiation>....
    "When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease." (p 118-119)

14th December, 1941, midday

  • "Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself....
    "Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics." (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner

  • "There is something very unhealthy about Christianity." (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday

  • "It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."
    "Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold <its demise>." (p 278)
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Hmm yea Hitler was a christian
Wasn't he a catlyk, and that is almost even worse... (I think...)


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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-07-2011, 10:06 PM

hmm ok ill give you the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt a christian but athiests still have done so much less harm than christians lol
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-08-2011, 07:58 AM

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hmm ok ill give you the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt a christian but athiests still have done so much less harm than christians lol
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-08-2011, 01:47 PM

um, well my source is actually you guys so there you go!
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-08-2011, 02:10 PM

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um, well my source is actually you guys so there you go!
Have you ever seen a True Christian suicidebomber? Have you ever seen a True Christian flying an airplane into a building? Have you ever seen a True Christian kill thousands of people because he was not accepted into Art School?

No, you have not. So your source is not valid.

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Thumbs down Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-10-2011, 02:59 PM

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Did you not learn to count? He starts with 1 and he ends with 10 you know.
Gosh, becasue 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 is OBVIOUSLY TEN .
By your logic:
Scenario:
Let's say I would list 5 reasons why it is good to eat hamburgers.
Say I put Reason 1, then Reason 2 and then Reason 5. By your logic old man, I would have listed 5 reasons. But guess what? I only listed 3. Who's the idiot now?
Now say you made a simple mistake. That's excusable. But this . . . doesn't seem like a . . . simple mistake.
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Have you ever seen a True Christian suicidebomber? Have you ever seen a True Christian flying an airplane into a building? Have you ever seen a True Christian kill thousands of people because he was not accepted into Art School?

No, you have not. So your source is not valid.

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Have you seen Christians kill innocents? Yes. The crusades and also the Native Americans.
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Have you seen Christians attempt to kill innocents? Yes. The Hutaree Militia of Christian warriors.
Where did you see them doing this? Besides, they are false Christians. They don't follow all of the Bible and are way too liberal.

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Have you seen Christians kill innocents? Yes. The crusades and also the Native Americans.
Crusades were done by catlicks, and catlicks are not Christians. Besides we were talking about innocents, not Injuns or Sand-nigras. In America was matter of only taking back the lands Injuns had pre-stolen. Injuns had been fighting among themselves destroying countless tribes in their power struggles anyway. Finally they had peace.


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Where did you see them doing this? Besides, they are false Christians. They don't follow all of the Bible and are way too liberal.
Um, how about every time someone spoke out against the church all throughout history...ohh and if you read the bible and believe in the christian god...well guess what. Your christian you idiot.


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Crusades were done by catlicks, and catlicks are not Christians. Besides we were talking about innocents, not Injuns or Sand-nigras. In America was matter of only taking back the lands Injuns had pre-stolen. Injuns had been fighting among themselves destroying countless tribes in their power struggles anyway. Finally they had peace.
Um once again...catholics(learn to spell) ARE christians...read statement above. And just so you know...we didn't take back america you dope...I don't know what drugs your on but it's pretty hilarious. How can you say native american's pre-stole...that word "pre-stole" is not even a word, so no one can take you seriously.

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You should not listen to some crazy person.
HAHAHAHA You guys sure love contradicting yourselves!
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Obama worshipers have been busy for years and years now destroying our once proud American Christian family values. One of the unfounded myths they have been spreading is that you are not allowed to impregnate your own daughter.

This is of course utter nonsense. The Holy Bible is very clear about impregnating your own daughter being fully allowed!

Lot was a just and righteous man. (2nd Peter 2:7-8) He was the only man that God saved from the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 19:15) So clearly Lot is the kind of man we should all aspire to be. In Genesis 19:32-36 we can read that Lot impregnated both his virgin daughters. The Bible raises no objections against this. Both had male children who were identified as progenitors of the Moab and Ammon people.

Not all forms of "incest", as hippies like to call it, are allowed though. A mother having sex with her son is, of course, punishable by death (Leviticus 20:11). Just the thought of this is enough to make me puke. Having sex with your daugther in law is not allowed either (Leviticus 20:12) as is having sex with both a mother and her daughter (Leviticus 20:14). But clearly there are no objections whatsoever to having sex with your own daughter.

There are some mistranslated versions of the Bible where Leviticus 18:6 is twisted into forbidding sex with relatives. Effectively forbidding you to impregnate even your own wife. Fortunately the only true version of God's word, the King James 1611, has no such objections. It just mentions you should not undress your daughter, simply a matter of commanding her to undress herself instead.
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Default Re: Ten points that CRUSH Atheism - 04-11-2011, 03:20 PM

Catlicks are NOT Christians!
Everyone who does not follow every word of the KJV 1611 are not Christians.
Of course secular law for now sets few limits, but time will come.

There was nothing contradictory there. He was talking about some Crazy Old Man. No idea who that might be, but certainly some crazy person has nothing to do with this thread.

Even Injuns admitted that they had pre-stolen the land. When they realized the superiority of God, they voluntarily gave the land back and went to reservations to fade away. Noble heathens.
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