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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 05:22 PM

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What benefit does prohibition give to society?

I put it to you that the ONLY people that benefit from prohibition are the criminal elements behind the manufacture and distribution of prohibited substances.

The cost to society on the other hand is HUGE.
What about all the jobs created in fighting drug-related crime, and all the prisons? Hmmm? You want all those people to lose their jobs?


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 07:51 PM

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Weed is not addictive.
Jesus turned water into wine. Drank wine his whole life. Alcool is addictive and more dangerous than marijuana, kills people while weed doesn't.

Everything in moderation
But the wine back then was more like water so there wasn't any alcohol in it. Its not the same as the wine drunkards drink today.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 07:53 PM

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But the wine back then was more like water so there wasn't any alcohol in it. Its not the same as the wine drunkards drink today.
The grapes have more alcohol, now?


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:01 PM

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The grapes have more alcohol, now?
Grapes don't have no alcohol Brother King. It's when sinners and drunkards ferment the grapes is where the alcohol comes from. Back then wine was just like grape juice.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:02 PM

Why am I not surprised that Pasta brain supports smoking pot. Having a baked brain explains so much.

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What about all the jobs created in fighting drug-related crime, and all the prisons? Hmmm? You want all those people to lose their jobs?
Of course he wants them to lose their jobs. What pirate isn't into anarchy and lawlessness?


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:04 PM

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But the wine back then was more like water so there wasn't any alcohol in it. Its not the same as the wine drunkards drink today.
Really?

You may want to read this.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=44154

We're Bible literalists around here, we don't make up stuff to support our own personal views.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:07 PM

I'm sure there were some idiots around that time like you who didn't know the difference between wine and grape juice.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:12 PM

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Really?

You may want to read this.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=44154

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Thank you for showing me the Truth Brother Campbell. I was just repeating what they always told me in Sunday School. I should have read for myself.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:27 PM

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Thank you for showing me the Truth Brother Campbell. I was just repeating what they always told me in Sunday School. I should have read for myself.
I think that lie was started by the Temperance movement started by Benjamin Rush, a Universalist of all things! A man that hated the Godly George Washington. This was then taken over by uppity women who should of been home cooking and cleaning (in the 19th century, no less!) These women decided that they could read the Bible better than their husbands. Mary Hunt was their leader, the only mention I have ever seen of her husband is that his name was Leander, so I'm going to assume that he was a milquetoast whipped coward.

This is the garbage that happens when we don't keep our women in line.


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 08:35 PM

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I put it to you that the ONLY people that benefit from prohibition are the criminal elements behind the manufacture and distribution of prohibited substances.
You are neglecting:

- the politicians who got elected with a "tough on (some) crime" platform

- the prison owners (yes, there are PRIVATELY run prisons in the States, because there are too many "offenders" for the regular system to handle). They'd go out of business if drug laws were reformed

- the equipment and infrastructure suppliers to the drug "warriors" (cops need BIG guns, and helicopters with FLIR, and...)

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The cost to society on the other hand is HUGE.
I've seen an economic study that estimated a 23% loss of potential GDP for the States since the "War on (some) Drugs" started, and 9% for Canada. So go ahead. Blame that one on Obama somehow.

And then there's the point that the "War on (some) Drugs" started just as the Soviet Bloc was beginning to disintegrate, and the Republicans were desperate to find a new "enemy" to fight to justify continuing the ludicrous military expenditures, and keep their friends in the military-industrial complex happy, and the campaign contributions flowing...Aren't US taxpayers ever curious what happened to the much-vaunted "peace dividend" at the end of the Cold War? It got re-invested in the new "War".

And what ever happened to the "War on Poverty"? Remember? LBJ, 1964 or thereabouts? Or are Americans actually so morally bereft as to not give a piffling crap for each other, as the rest of the world thinks? [/rant]


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 09:10 PM

Why don't we legalize everything just to make you two liberals half wits happy. Joe-freddie and Didymus will that make you happy? We can just sell heroin, crack cocaine, marijuana and hashish in the school yards. Hey why don't we give beer and wine to the grade school kids too? Ya know every thing is ok in moderation. That is what the fool said at the start of this thread. You seem to agree with him.
Will it be OK with you two if expectant mother inject heroin every day, how about doctors and judges is that ok with you two?
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 09:24 PM

This will be my last post on this matter as these liebral communist druggies won't see the error in their "logic"

God is against this demon herb.. so therefore.. CASE CLOSED.

In MY Book (and yes that IS the KJV1611) , there is only one type of stoner..The ones being God's instrument here on earth, and anyone who GETS STONED, is against God! Interesting to note too that the stoned(Naboth) also just happened to be a friend of Jezebel!

1 Kings 21:

10 And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And [then] carry him out, and stone him, that he may die.

11 And the men of his city, [even] the elders and the nobles who were the inhabitants in his city, did as Jezebel had sent unto them, [and] as it [was] written in the letters which she had sent unto them.

12 They proclaimed a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people.

13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, [even] against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died.

14 Then they sent to Jezebel, saying, Naboth is stoned, and is dead.

15 And it came to pass, when Jezebel heard that Naboth was stoned, and was dead, that Jezebel said to Ahab, Arise, take possession of the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite, which he refused to give thee for money: for Naboth is not alive, but dead.


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...We can just sell heroin, crack cocaine, marijuana and hashish in the school yards...
Guess what's already happening? Guess what we'd like to PREVENT by removing the criminal element? If these substances were decriminalized, the profit margin would disappear, and with it, the black market. What would happen to your local liquor distributor if he tried to sell his wares in the school yard?

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Hey why don't we give beer and wine to the grade school kids too?
I've told you before, I AM NOT Catholic.

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Ya know every thing is ok in moderation. That is what the fool said at the start of this thread. You seem to agree with him.
1) There was nothing about "everything in moderation" in OP's posts.

2) If you can tell me what "Gay are legal and plants are not!" means, I'll let you know if I agree.

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Will it be OK with you two if expectant mother inject heroin every day, how about doctors and judges is that ok with you two?
In today's environment of prohibition, assistance with drug abuse issues is difficult to obtain, so small problems don't get looked after until they become big problems. People know that even admitting they might have a problem will lead to job loss, alienation from support networks (friends, family, etc.), homelessness, etc.

As to some of the other points raised in this thread: Does not Genesis 1:29 imply that True Christians should eat every seed bearing plant? After all it is given to you for meat! God gave it to you, so it cannot possibly harm you (if you truly have faith). This includes poison oak, nightshade, etc. The only other possible explanation is that the Bible not entirely truthful.

And if nightshade, poison oak, etc. are harmful, why have they not been prohibited by the government? Surely the government wants nothing but to keep us safe. Why then would they continue to allow such things to grow wild in our fields and forests? Because if they're legal, that means they're safe; so munch away, James (or think for yourself <--- my choice).


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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 10:40 PM

No drugs are flat out wrong! Its called moral decay! Why do people feel the need to escape reality? God is what is real, not a trip in your demented mind!
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 10:43 PM

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1) There was nothing about "everything in moderation" in OP's posts.

2) If you can tell me what "Gay are legal and plants are not!" means, I'll let you know if I agree.

In today's environment of prohibition, assistance with drug abuse issues is difficult to obtain, so small problems don't get looked after until they become big problems. People know that even admitting they might have a problem will lead to job loss, alienation from support networks (friends, family, etc.), homelessness, etc.

As to some of the other points raised in this thread: Does not Genesis 1:29 imply that True Christians should eat every seed bearing plant? After all it is given to you for meat! God gave it to you, so it cannot possibly harm you (if you truly have faith). This includes poison oak, nightshade, etc. The only other possible explanation is that the Bible not entirely truthful.

And if nightshade, poison oak, etc. are harmful, why have they not been prohibited by the government? Surely the government wants nothing but to keep us safe. Why then would they continue to allow such things to grow wild in our fields and forests? Because if they're legal, that means they're safe; so munch away, James (or think for yourself <--- my choice).

1) Yes I meant it, most of stuff is good in moderation. Wine is okay in moderation, so is weed. You know that ANYTHING can kill you?

Drink too much water = You die
Take too much vitamin = You die
Run too much = You vomit
Eat too much = You get obese and can die

Is drinking water bad? No you need water
Is vitamin bad? No you need vitamin for your body
Running is bad? No, healthy
Eating is bad? You need to eat to survive


If you think eating Marijuana is like eating deadly plants, your an idiot.

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Myth: Marijuana is a dangerous drug

Any discussion of marijuana should begin with the fact that there have been numerous official reports and studies, every one of which has concluded that marijuana poses no great risk to society and should not be criminalized. These include:
  • the National Academy of Sciences Analysis of Marijuana Policy (1982);
  • the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse (the Shafer Report) (1973);
  • the Canadian Government's Commission of Inquiry (Le Dain Report) (1970);
  • the British Advisory Committee on Drug Dependency (Wooton Report) (1968);
  • the La Guardia Report (1944);
  • the Panama Canal Zone Military Investigations (1916-29);
  • and Britain's monumental Indian Hemp Drugs Commission (1893-4).

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OH? THE DEVILS PLANT? YOU THINK SO? READ THE BIBLE MORE. Its actually the HOLY OIL USED FOR OINTMENT

According to the Torah [36] cannabis was an ingredient in the Holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kaneh-bosem (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם [37]) which is mentioned several times in the Hebrew Bible (See: Ki Tissa [Exodus 30:22-33] a secret priesthood document, and in King Solomon's Garden in SOS chapter 7) as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in Holy anointing oil used by the high priest on kings and prophets, priests and other ministers of the temple.
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 10:51 PM

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1) Yes I meant it, most of stuff is good in moderation. Wine is okay in moderation, so is weed. You know that ANYTHING can kill you?

Drink too much water = You die
Take too much vitamin = You die
Run too much = You vomit
Eat too much = You get obese and can die

Is drinking water bad? No you need water
Is vitamin bad? No you need vitamin for your body
Running is bad? No, healthy
Eating is bad? You need to eat to survive


If you think eating Marijuana is like eating deadly plants, your an idiot.

Tobacco435,0001Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity365,0001Alcohol85,000 1Microbial Agents75,0001Toxic Agents55,0001Motor Vehicle Crashes26,3471Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs32,0002Suicide30,6223Incidents Involving Firearms29,0001Homicide20,3084Sexual Behaviors20,0001All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect17,0001, 5Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin7,6006Marijuana07Tobacco435,0001Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity365,0001Alcohol85,000 1Microbial Agents75,0001Toxic Agents55,0001Motor Vehicle Crashes26,3471Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs32,0002Suicide30,6223Incidents Involving Firearms29,0001Homicide20,3084Sexual Behaviors20,0001All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect17,0001, 5Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin7,6006Marijuana
Myth: Marijuana is a dangerous drug


Any discussion of marijuana should begin with the fact that there have been numerous official reports and studies, every one of which has concluded that marijuana poses no great risk to society and should not be criminalized. These include:
  • the National Academy of Sciences Analysis of Marijuana Policy (1982);
  • the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse (the Shafer Report) (1973);
  • the Canadian Government's Commission of Inquiry (Le Dain Report) (1970);
  • the British Advisory Committee on Drug Dependency (Wooton Report) (1968);
  • the La Guardia Report (1944);
  • the Panama Canal Zone Military Investigations (1916-29);
  • and Britain's monumental Indian Hemp Drugs Commission (1893-4).

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OH? THE DEVILS PLANT? YOU THINK SO? READ THE BIBLE MORE. Its actually the HOLY OIL USED FOR OINTMENT

According to the Torah [36] cannabis was an ingredient in the Holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts. The herb of interest is most commonly known as kaneh-bosem (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם [37]) which is mentioned several times in the Hebrew Bible (See: Ki Tissa [Exodus 30:22-33] a secret priesthood document, and in King Solomon's Garden in SOS chapter 7) as a bartering material, incense, and an ingredient in Holy anointing oil used by the high priest on kings and prophets, priests and other ministers of the temple.
SHOW me the scripture that says its ok to smoke DOPE!
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 11:09 PM

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SHOW me the scripture that says its ok to smoke DOPE!
Show me the scripture that its ok to eat vitamin C pills the morning


I think you ignored my whole thread.
HOLY OINT OIL WAS MADE OUT OF OLIVE OIL AND CANNABIS

Have you ever smoked or eat Marijuana? Your not out of consciousness for taking a hit or two. All it does is put a smile on your face and make you feel good. Like a little bit of wine.
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 11:19 PM

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I think the time has come for God's creation to be legal.

Genesis 1:29. This verse will show us God's intent for all seed-bearing plants, which includes marijuana

Genesis 1:29. Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you."

Marijuana is a plant and yield seed and can be eaten.


Gay are legal and plants are not!
Then certainly methamphetamine and mescaline should be legal as well since they are found (along with other psychoactive drugs) in the Acacia tree, which God also made?

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Methamphetamine has been reported to occur naturally in Acacia berlandieri, and possibly Acacia rigidula, trees that grow in West Texas.[82] Methamphetamine and regular amphetamine were long thought to be strictly human-synthesized,[83] but Acacia trees contain these and numerous other psychoactive compounds (e.g., mescaline, nicotine, dimethyltryptamine), and the related compound β-phenethylamine is known to occur from numerous Acacia species.[84]
You are a fool son. I once started with the marijuana and thought it was harmless and just made me laugh. Before I knew it, I was hooked on speedballs and poppers, spending most of my time cruising truck stops and rest stations looking for gloryholes to statisfy my wicked sin.

Marijuana causes homosexuality as proven in my study. Once you are a stoned Sodomite, you are hellbound.

But it isn't too late. Smash the bong to smithereens, get on your knees, repent and let Jesus enter you. If He can save me, He can save anybody.

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Then certainly methamphetamine and mescaline should be legal as well since they are found (along with other psychoactive drugs) in the Acacia tree, which God also made?



You are a fool son. I once started with the marijuana and thought it was harmless and just made me laugh. Before I knew it, I was hooked on speedballs and poppers, spending most of my time cruising truck stops and rest stations looking for gloryholes to statisfy my wicked sin.

Marijuana causes homosexuality as proven in my study. Once you are a stoned Sodomite, you are hellbound.

But it isn't too late. Smash the bong to smithereens, get on your knees, repent and let Jesus enter you. If He can save me, He can save anybody.

In Christ!
I've been taking marijuana once in a month for 4 years. I am not hooked on speedballs and poppers. As most people are able to control themselves with wine and not start getting drunk of 40oz . You have no Self-Control, pray for it.

Marijuana causes homosexuality? It is not an effect of THC. Your study is based on bullshit.


I do not encourage smoking Marijuana, as it can be a sin to some people while it is not for me.

Gourmandise is a sin, eating isn't.
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Default Re: Pray for the Marijuana to be legalized! (Read please) - 09-10-2010, 11:52 PM

Look bublehead, why do you hate Jesus? I showed you scripture that says your body is a temple and belongs to God. God put hemp here for a reason, to make rope out of it. Back away from the marijuana buffet before its to late and Jesus sends you to hell! You sound like a damn Papist trying to justify pedophile priests.
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