[Mr. Jingles]

I, for one, am shocked that some people have the gall not support God's own George W Bush. Heck, I thought that was illegal..at least that's what Sean Hannity said.

Now, what do we do about Demoncrats, Liebretarians, & other villanous traitors. Should they be executed? Deported? Sent to Gitmo? I'd like some feedback here...

[Obey]

Send them to no man's land of course. Infidel Castro has no jurisdiction, and neither does America. That means we can get them warmed up for all the torture they will be receiving in hell when one of our soldiers forgets to take them out of the dunk tank. Of course we cannot punish them as well as God can, but we'll do our best.

[Talitha]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jingles

I, for one, am shocked that some people have the gall not support God's own George W Bush. Heck, I thought that was illegal..at least that's what Sean Hannity said.

Now, what do we do about Demoncrats, Liebretarians, & other villanous traitors. Should they be executed? Deported? Sent to Gitmo? I'd like some feedback here...

Come now, whatever happened to freedom of choice?

If these Homers choose to support Satan's Envoy then they will meet their fate when they stand before Jesus and promptly get thrown into the Pits of Hell.
It's not that they are likely to win any Elections now is it?

Anyway, we need all our Bullets for those Ungodly Towelheadistani's causing bother in America's Oilfields in Irakistan.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jingles

I, for one, am shocked that some people have the gall not support God's own George W Bush. Heck, I thought that was illegal..at least that's what Sean Hannity said.

Now, what do we do about Demoncrats, Liebretarians, & other villanous traitors. Should they be executed? Deported? Sent to Gitmo? I'd like some feedback here...

It is just disgusting how people abuse Freedom® in this country. The word is Bush will deal with these trouble makers good when he is re-elected in 2009.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

This is why Jesus invented Faith-Based Prisons:

The White House, the Wall Street Journal, and Christian conservatives have been crowing since June over news that President George W. Bush's favorite faith-based initiative is a smashing success.

[Marshall]

I recommended that all non True Christians™ be placed on a watch list(not unlike the dossiers the DOF keeps on terrorists and Democrats). That way We the People know who is on our side when the Chinese and the Islamists attack right before Jesus sends the Rapture.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Jeb Thurmond

This is why Jesus invented Faith-Based Prisons:

The White House, the Wall Street Journal, and Christian conservatives have been crowing since June over news that President George W. Bush's favorite faith-based initiative is a smashing success.

Just a thought - does Landover offer Faith-Based subprime mortgages? It seems like an idea with a lot of potential.

[raylu]

Originally Posted by Jeb Thurmond

This is why Jesus invented Faith-Based Prisons:

The White House, the Wall Street Journal, and Christian conservatives have been crowing since June over news that President George W. Bush's favorite faith-based initiative is a smashing success.

The article explicitly says that the prison did not work:

How a Bush-promoted Christian prison program fakes success by massaging data.

But when you look carefully at the Penn study, it's clear that the program didn't work. The InnerChange participants did somewhat worse than the controls: They were slightly more likely to be rearrested and noticeably more likely (24 percent versus 20 percent) to be reimprisoned. If faith is, as Paul told the Hebrews, the evidence of things not seen, then InnerChange is an opportunity to cultivate faith; we certainly haven't seen any results.

InnerChange program manager Jerry Wilger says he doesn't know much about research, but he doesn't think it's fair to count the performance of the people who dropped out of his program against him, a fair-sounding objection that misses the point entirely. If InnerChange's 177 entrants were truly matched to the control group but ended up having more recidivism, then either the apparent success with the graduates was due to "creaming" or the program somehow managed to make its dropouts worse than they were to start with. If the program genuinely helped its graduates and didn't harm its dropouts, and if the whole group of entrants was truly matched to the controls, then the group of 177 should have done better than the controls. And they didn't.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Originally Posted by raylu

The article explicitly says that the prison did not work

Friend, you actually trust the biased figures touted by a liberal rag like Slate?

Those secularists cry about wanting to "rehabilitate" criminals instead of punishing them, then when we come up with a way to actually rehabilitate them by bringing them to Christ, they whine about that.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[raylu]

This has nothing to do about my source...because the source I used was the exact same one as Jeb's. I thought I made this clear.

If my conclusions are invalid, so are Jeb's.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Originally Posted by raylu

This has nothing to do about my source...because the source I used was the exact same one as Jeb's. I thought I made this clear.

If my conclusions are invalid, so are Jeb's.

Look the point is that Faith-Based prisons are a GOOD IDEA. I mean, can you think of a better way to deal with criminals by convincing them that Jesus will forgive every crime they commit, as long as they are Christians? Sounds more effective than whatever you Sweden-loving socialists have in mind.

[raylu]

I don't see how this is effective. Is your ultimate goal the same as mine, to reduce crime rates? I measure success and, therefore, effectiveness, by the percentage by which the crime rate is reduced.

Jesus will forgive you for sinning - commiting a crime is not the equivalent of sinning.
Commiting a crime is defined as a transgression of the law. The law is written by man.
Sinning is defined as a transgression of God's will (as prescribed in the Bible). The Bible is written by God.

[SalvationSeeker]

Originally Posted by raylu

Jesus will forgive you for sinning - commiting a crime is not the equivalent of sinning.

Depends on the crime.
All crimes involving any kind of theft or violence (against those who'm God hasn't commanded one to kill) is a sin..
That's a whole lot of crimes that can be classified as sins.
Also, breaking human law can be a sin in itself. (Ezra 7:26 & 1 Peter 2:13-16)

Sinning is defined as a transgression of God's will (as prescribed in the Bible). The Bible is written by God.

If you know that, how comes you ignore it?
Why do you hate God?

[Marshall]

By simply executing all violent offenders and drug users, the country would save money and reduce crime all at the same time.

I was in favor of Electric Bleachers when the Electric Chair was being debated in my state.

[SalvationSeeker]

Originally Posted by Marshall

By simply executing all violent offenders and drug users, the country would save money and reduce crime all at the same time.

I was in favor of Electric Bleachers when the Electric Chair was being debated in my state.

I've never been strongly in favor of either the chair nor lethal injection.
It's better than nothing of course, but that's pretty much it.
Electricity and poision costs money and can't be reused - it has to be bought anew over and over.
Also, it ruins the internal organs of the executed - which could have been sold for money.

So they should simply be beheaded with an axe or sword, or other such instrument..
It could be used over and over again with no costs other than that of it's purchase.
Always remember brothers - What Would Jesus Do?

[H. Montague Worthington]

Originally Posted by Marshall

By simply executing all violent offenders and drug users, the country would save money and reduce crime all at the same time.

I was in favor of Electric Bleachers when the Electric Chair was being debated in my state.

I think that potential violent offenders and drug users should be pre-emptively executed. After all, it worked to keep Saddam from using his massive stockpiles of Weapons of Mass Distruction in America's Heartland.

[Marshall]

Originally Posted by H. Montague Worthington

I think that potential violent offenders and drug users should be pre-emptively executed.

You can't just execute every darky and Mexican.
The Godless Liberals would have a field day!

[SalvationSeeker]

Originally Posted by Marshall

You can't just execute every darky and Mexican.
The Godless Liberals would have a field day!

Then we'll execute them too for betraying America, I'd say..

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by raylu

This has nothing to do about my source...because the source I used was the exact same one as Jeb's. I thought I made this clear.

If my conclusions are invalid, so are Jeb's.

No, you both started out with the same source, but Jeb reached the right, logical conclusion, you somehow twisted the "facts" so they came out wrong. Seriously, why would you want to do something like that?

[raylu]

Originally Posted by SalvationSeeker

Depends on the crime.
All crimes involving any kind of theft or violence (against those who'm God hasn't commanded one to kill) is a sin..
That's a whole lot of crimes that can be classified as sins.
Also, breaking human law can be a sin in itself. (Ezra 7:26 & 1 Peter 2:13-16)

But not all, which is why sin and crime are not equivalent.

If you know that, how comes you ignore it?
Why do you hate God?

I would make the same argument to you from my interpretation of the Bible, which is why I refrain from doing so.
I have other reasons, too. I get the feeling that they would be too complex for you to understand, though, so I'm starting small.

Originally Posted by Brother Temperance

No, you both started out with the same source, but Jeb reached the right, logical conclusion, you somehow twisted the "facts" so they came out wrong. Seriously, why would you want to do something like that?

I quoted the article. I quoted the article.