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Re: other planets do not exist! -
06-07-2013, 07:44 PM
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The big hole in your evidence is the date, October 2011, during the revolution. Since then, crime has largely died down.
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Are you daft? Note the underlined date!
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The UN Security Council passed Resolution 2014 in October 2011 calling on both sides to end the violence
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Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: other planets do not exist! -
06-09-2013, 05:21 AM
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Are you daft? Note the underlined date!
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As I was posting a reference to UN. I did actually check out their site. Can't be bothered to waste much more time on Yemen, Mr Hutchins, but here's some key words from their latest available [2012] report: - critical
- drought
- conflict
- political instability
- human rights violations
- human smuggling rings
- highly dangerous
- fragile
- limited public health
- a highly volatile security environment
- sexual and gender-based violence
- HIV
- AIDS
- 507,000 registered internally displaced persons
Sounds absolutely terrific, lousy with mohammedans, no water (and I don't imagine the place is noted for rainfall so by now they've had 6,000 years to work that out and dig some wells or build de-sal plants but can they be bothered? NO they'd rather pray to the moon and die of thirst) but God is so wonderful and there could be a real opportunity here to spread The Gospel with a shipment of Bibles.
JOHN 4
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Authorized Version
YOHANA 4
14 Walakini ye yote atakayekunywa maji yale nitakayompa mimi hataona kiu milele; bali yale maji nitakayompa yatakuwa ndani yake chemchemi ya maji, yakibubujikia uzima wa milele. Swahili Biblia Takatifu And some English phrase books. But what really makes my eyes circulate in their orbits is what has any of this got to do with astrology
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Re: other planets do not exist! -
06-09-2013, 11:18 PM
If you don't believe me, this website shows the crime rate of Yemen compared to the US. This web site has government crime surveys as sources. To your evidence, there is terrorism in Yemen, there may even be more of it in Yemen than in the US, but the overall domestic crime is extremely low.
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Re: other planets do not exist! -
06-10-2013, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor
As I was posting a reference to UN. I did actually check out their site. Can't be bothered to waste much more time on Yemen, Mr Hutchins, but here's some key words from their latest available [2012] report: - critical
- drought
- conflict
- political instability
- human rights violations
- human smuggling rings
- highly dangerous
- fragile
- limited public health
- a highly volatile security environment
- sexual and gender-based violence
- HIV
- AIDS
- 507,000 registered internally displaced persons
Sounds absolutely terrific, lousy with mohammedans, no water (and I don't imagine the place is noted for rainfall so by now they've had 6,000 years to work that out and dig some wells or build de-sal plants but can they be bothered? NO they'd rather pray to the moon and die of thirst) but God is so wonderful and there could be a real opportunity here to spread The Gospel with a shipment of Bibles. JOHN 4
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. Authorized Version
YOHANA 4
14 Walakini ye yote atakayekunywa maji yale nitakayompa mimi hataona kiu milele; bali yale maji nitakayompa yatakuwa ndani yake chemchemi ya maji, yakibubujikia uzima wa milele. Swahili Biblia Takatifu
And some English phrase books. But what really makes my eyes circulate in their orbits is what has any of this got to do with astrology
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What you clearly reported is common knowledge for those people that are properly educated in matters of the world. Fortunately, all True Christians™ are fully aware of those facts and as such, are completely capable of expressing fair and unbiased introspection. It does amaze me that non-Christians are unable to get this information. It is in every Church library, in some cases, in Chick Tract form!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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06-10-2013, 12:53 AM
Hm, I do have a question about this Original Poster, where the scientists say there are planets, there are indeed celestial bodies. are those simply stars or something else?
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06-10-2013, 03:41 AM
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Hm, I do have a question about this Original Poster, where the scientists say there are planets, there are indeed celestial bodies. are those simply stars or something else?
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My understanding is that OP was concerned about other planets, which in the mind of secularist educated astrologers means extra planets other that the earth which they say is also a planet. So the planets we see in the sky, which are mentioned in The Bible, are not other planets. They are just planets.
However, now these astrologers have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist at remote locations. The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them. They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.
Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.
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06-10-2013, 05:24 AM
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My understanding is that OP was concerned about other planets, which in the mind of secularist educated astrologers means extra planets other that the earth which they say is also a planet. So the planets we see in the sky, which are mentioned in The Bible, are not other planets. They are just planets.
However, now these astrologers have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist at remote locations. The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them. They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.
Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.
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Oh, I understand now! Thanks so much, Sister! Goodness, I'm having thinking trouble all over the place!
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06-10-2013, 10:44 AM
Exoplanets are actually one of the things I study the most. They lie, not in remote locations, but in the orbits of other stars. All (with a few notable exceptions) exoplanets are drowned out by the light of their parent star so they are difficult to detect via direct imaging. However, we can see the shadow they leave on their star. For some exoplanets, they are oriented in just the right way so that they eclipse their star from the perspective of Earth. This dims the light of the star. Looking at how much the light is dimed and how often it is dimed, we can tell the planets radius and orbital period.
We can also see the effect of the planets gravity on the star. Just as the Sun pulls on the Earth to keep it in orbit, the Earth also pulls on the Sun, the Sun is much larger and does not move very much but its movement through space is affected by the Earth. We can detect these movements within other stars by using redshift. Look up redshift for more info. From the data found from these movements, we can determine the stars mass and orbital period.
Famous exosolar star systems, The HD 10180 system has the most amount of planets with a record of 7 and two more are still being confirmed. The Kepler 22 system has the first ever planet found in the area that is though to be able to support life, though the planet is too big. Gliese 581 has a planet that is in this zone of life that we strongly think has an ocean of water. The Kepler 70 system has a planet that makes a complete orbit in 5 hours, this planet is very close to its star and is likely molten.
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06-10-2013, 04:50 PM
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now these astronomers
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Corrected you.
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have made up a new word, exoplanets, which they imagine to exist...
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We don't imagine. We know!
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at remote locations.
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By remote location, I'm assuming you mean nearly 50% + of the stars have planets.
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The Bible does not say what the planets are. And The Bible is clear that we are not to worship them.
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You don't have to worship them like God. Just accept them as truth with the facts we have
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They are all attached to the firmament and therefore would all be about the same distance away: there are no "more remote locations" for their exoplanets in other words.
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Nearly, everyone in the world knows the firmament isn't real.
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Soon all the stars will fall down to the earth and obviously if 1 star were bigger than 1 earth, then not even a single star could fit on the ground but The Bible is clear that they will all fit.
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Stars falling to Earth; most bizarre thing I have ever heard. But, of course, the Bible is stupid like that. Anyway, this is impossible if you understand how the universe works. (You do know why stars are not falling?) They can't simply 'fall to the earth', if the sun got a bit closer to us we would fry and the earth would obliterate so how are all the stars going to reach us? We are not the center of the universe, we are a desolate rock, in the middle of a random galaxy, do not be so arrogant to think that we are the centre of anything. If this situation did happen, for whatever reason, most stars would not hit the earth because of the large space around us.
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06-10-2013, 07:56 PM
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Stars falling to Earth; most bizarre thing I have ever heard. But, of course, the Bible is stupid like that.
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Wow what a compelling argument. You don't see us going onto YOUR websites and shoving OUR beliefs down your throat, do you? We deserve at least the same respect and poor MitzaLizalor deserves an apology for being spoken to so rudely! She is a lady after all, and a highly respected one at that! I will pray for you, and hope you one day turn God's favor in your direction. Please, do completely read the Bible when you can. As sooon as you can. The correct King James Bible, it will do your heart so much good.
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06-10-2013, 08:56 PM
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Wow what a compelling argument. You don't see us going onto YOUR websites and shoving OUR beliefs down your throat, do you?
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Why do we shove our knowledge down your throats? If you knew anything about the aggressive and violent history surrounding your religion you'd be slapping yourself on the forehead for asking such a ridiculous question.
You may not come onto our websites, even though some do. But, you do shove it down our throats in other ways. If most Christians don't shove their religion down others throats, why does the money have "In God We Trust" written on it? And why do schools make children sing The Pledge of Allegiance? You could say the same for just about any person from any belief. I don't know any group of people that doesn't have at least one person that pushes their views on others.
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poor MitzaLizalor deserves an apology for being spoken to so rudely!
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I didn't speak to her rudely. I was giving her the facts.
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I will pray for you, and hope you one day turn God's favor in your direction.
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A large number of people have said that, and yet, nothing happened.
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Please, do completely read the Bible when you can. As soon as you can. The correct King James Bible, it will do your heart so much good.
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I have read it; it's hilarious.
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06-10-2013, 09:09 PM
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Exoplanets are actually one of the things I study the most.
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I assume that course is between Defence Against the Dark Arts and Transfiguration?
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06-10-2013, 10:08 PM
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Gliese 581 has a planet that is in this zone of life that we strongly think has an ocean of water. The Kepler 70 system has a planet that makes a complete orbit in 5 hours, this planet is very close to its star and is likely molten.
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I love the factuality of secular science, "we strongly think" and "is likely".
On the other hand, these atheists at least have very strong faith in their beliefs. Too bad they have placed their blind faith on wrong place and are on their way to eternal damnation.
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06-10-2013, 10:39 PM
Well we can't actually see the surfaces of the planets, so we don't quite know whats on them. Science does not pretend to know everything.
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06-11-2013, 10:59 PM
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Well we can't actually see the surfaces of the planets, so we don't quite know whats on them. Science does not pretend to know everything.
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You don't see them, yet you claim that they exist?
Scientists are so naive!
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06-11-2013, 11:23 PM
We do not see the planets (except a few important exceptions) but we know they are there because of their affect on stars. Read my post before my last post here to learn how we do that. Because we can't see the planets themselves, we can't view their surfaces. A few transit planets have had their atmospheres scanned through spectroscopic telescopes (all atoms have a trace signature in the light they interact with). All of the planets we can see are very cold gas giants and they are so far away that we can't resolve much except a few pixels of light.
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06-12-2013, 12:38 AM
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Stars falling to Earth > > > most stars would not hit the earth because of the large space around us.
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The Bible is clear that this will happen. This historical event is recorded in both the Old and the New Testaments so we can be absolutey certain that it did happen in the future (at an unspecified time) AND in this case God has even explained why.
The Bible sets forth some details, as much as it is necessary for us to know, concerning the heavens; for example:
JOB 9
2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
4 He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.
8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
KJV This is a particularly pertinent passage. The Bible describes how the heavens are stretched out. But God is clear, they will not remain stretched out forever. Perhaps heretics would suggest that this "stretching" is the equivalent of Einstein's "cosmological constant"? The Bible is not some theory, however; it is God's instruction manual for life. And The Bible addresses exactly this point, helping us to appreciate that our present was future history to Job (or to the Psalmists or Prophets for that matter) but now is a matter of fact God spells it out more clearly:
PSALM 104
1 Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
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We are familiar with structures of that type. In the following illustration many of their equivalents may be seen. Pay particular attention to the lighting, how the illumination is not uniformly dispersed. Notice how there are effects similar to the auroræ, how there are openings provided at different levels for different purposes, how anything attached to the underside of the firmament would be approximately equidistant from the observers and how it would be necessary for one of the higher panels to be opened for ingress or egress.
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Imagine the pandemonium which would ensue if all the supporting fabric shown inside that tent were rolled up like a scroll (or a snapping Holland blind) there would be little lights everywhere, sparks zapping around, people panicking. The Bible uses language we can understand because it's important that we do understand and in these days of the secularism, with astrologists announcing new "theories" even faster than they can debunk their old ones according to a satanic agenda which has been festering for centuries Christians certainly do understand and we will not roll over for Albert Einstein or Max Planck no matter how many delusions get compounded by the Heisenbergs and Shulgins of this world.
Satan's lies are a phantasm. Jesus promises us Life. Christians always choose Life.
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10-07-2013, 06:09 PM
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Scientists are talking about other planets like "Mars", "Jupiter", "Saturnus"(which sounds like Satan), "Venus" and so on, but does these planets really exist? I dont think so, cause if they were so big as the scientists describes them as, we would clearly see them in the sky! So i dont think they really exist, and frankly i dont care about it eighter. They arent even mentioned in The Bible, they are that unintresting, so why should we care? Also the scientists named these planets after pagan gods, which is just another proof that scientists are satanists and heathens. Those stupid scientists even claims that the sun is a million times bigger then the earth, then how come it isnt larger than a tennis ball when you look at it?
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OH OH!! i know this one its because we are so far away the angular diameter of the planet it really small to us. It is the same reason that when a person is far away from you, if you close one eye it appears that they are as big as your thumb or depending on the distance even smaller.
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10-07-2013, 06:34 PM
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
See? God made earth, not earths. End of story.
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10-22-2013, 07:52 PM
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then how come it isnt larger than a tennis ball when you look at it?
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Easy there. If you are on a skyscraper, how come the cars down there are smaller than your thumb when you look at them, even though when you climb down, they are bigger than you? By the way, when you say they are that uninteresting they are not even mentioned in the bible, you imply they exist.
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