[FirstLaw]

Hello Pastor... but why do you hate me
you gave me an Infraction : Attempting to force the homersexural lifestyle on GOD's favorite forum

Why do you think i speak of such evil ...

i don't live in iraq ... "that disgusting place"
there is no desert in Lebanon... I'm not Arab...

why did you call me a fool
I'm NOT debating i just want to know whats going on... you keep giving me infractions and i don't know how to avoid it
please speak to me
may God bless you my brother

[FirstLaw]

I see the errors of my way!!!!
Sorry for insulting the true Christian way!!!
I apologies and hope you will find it in your hart to forgive me !
anyway! i can add points to the thread!

*** proof of God using science!!!! ***

sure science speaks of the origins of matter, but does "science" speak of the origins of life and consciousness?!!! where does life or consciousness come from!!!
IF (and thats not true!) matter came from compressed energy(ie big bang) that means life comes from compressed life (ie God) and consciousness comes from compressed consciousness!(ie God)!!!
so using your own logic scientists! you have lost!!!!!!!
CHECK MATE!!! FOR GOOD!
PS : matter came from God too! i'm just trying to think like a stupid Atheist !!!
Bless you all!!!!

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

That's nice. Are you going to answer the question yet? Because so far you haven't.

How does Jesus love? With Scripture to support your assertions.

I would give you my answer, if I wasn't sure it wouldn't get deleted and censored because it didn't fall in line with what you agree. The Lord loves because he told me himself, and that isn't a word of a lie! Also, this \/ \/

Originally Posted by FirstLaw

Hello Every body!
okay so
scripture saying that the Lord Loves (these are from the top of my head) :
Romans 13:8 : Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

John 12:47 : And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

John 3:16 : For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

luke 15 , all of it about love
The Parable of the Lost Sheep, Lost coin, and The Lost son.

God himself suffered for our sins when our lord was crucified! and his love is vast! all people that sin aren't condemed yet! its only if they die in their sin that they are now sinners ...
God hates sin! not the sinners, if a sinner repents then god embraces him back into his flock and showers him with love!
but if that sinner never repents and ignore the message of our True GOD!
then all the wrath of the heavens will be bestowed upon him!!!!

God Bless us all!!!

This is correct, but True Christians™ don't believe this.

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus.

Actually, it says in your terms of service that there will be debates, there will be insults and you will flame people. That that is what this website is about. Please read this for details.

Originally Posted by FirstLaw

Hello Pastor... but why do you hate me
you gave me an Infraction : Attempting to force the homersexural lifestyle on GOD's favorite forum

Why do you think i speak of such evil ...

i don't live in iraq ... "that disgusting place"
there is no desert in Lebanon... I'm not Arab...

why did you call me a fool
I'm NOT debating i just want to know whats going on... you keep giving me infractions and i don't know how to avoid it
please speak to me
may God bless you my brother

Unless, you are a white, american, gun owning, wife beating, real republican they will never agree with you unfortunately. Don't worry about it.

Originally Posted by FirstLaw

I see the errors of my way!!!!
Sorry for insulting the true Christian way!!!
I apologies and hope you will find it in your hart to forgive me !
anyway! i can add points to the thread!
[CENTER]*** proof of God using science!!!! ***

[LEFT]sure science speaks of the origins of matter, but does "science" speak of the origins of life and consciousness?!!! where does life or consciousness come from!!!
IF (and thats not true!) matter came from compressed energy(ie big bang) that means life comes from compressed life (ie God) and consciousness comes from compressed consciousness!(ie God)!!!
so using your own logic scientists! you have lost!!!!!!!
CHECK MATE!!! FOR GOOD!
PS : matter came from God too! i'm just trying to think like a stupid Atheist !!!
Bless you all!!!!

This is not what an atheist would argue. They would argue there is no life or soul, so this argument is invalid. We argue the converse, but that life does come from God. However, to say that it defeats them by their own logic, science or that it is compressed is not correct. As of yet, there is no 'proof' of a life force; we only have faith that it exists.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Kristian

Unless, you are a white, american, gun owning, wife beating, real republican they will never agree with you unfortunately.

That's not entirely true; you could be looking for advice about any of those things including being white

[Jack O'fagan]

may God bless you my brotherUnless, you are a white, american, gun owning, wife beating, real republican they will never agree with you unfortunately. Don't worry about it.

Incorrect! I am a True Christian. I am not American nor do I own a gun.

YIC

Jack

[Judas!]

I'm not an atheist,I'm agnostic if anything, but I can see a major flaw in your reasoning. And I'm not trying to insult you or put you down or anything but all your reasons are based off the bible and god and stuff like that.
From an Atheist view' point it wouldn't make them think "Oh of course the bible, there must be a god." Because atheists don't see the bible as anything more then a fairy tale.
Just thought i'd point it out.

[Redeemed Papist]

Of course all opinions are based on the Bible. It's all inspired by God. Every word. Where else should we find information about God and how He wants us to live?
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[Judas!]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Of course all opinions are based on the Bible. It's all inspired by God. Every word. Where else should we find information about God and how He wants us to live?
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Yeah but it won't convince an atheist will it?
No.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Judas!

Yeah but it won't convince an atheist will it?
No.

That's their problem.

As it is yours if you continue to ignore all the bits you don't like.
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[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

That's not entirely true; you could be looking for advice about any of those things including being white

Bob Barr
"Amazingly Successful at being an ex-white!"

That line made me actually laugh out loud!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by FirstLaw

Hello Every body!
okay so
scripture saying that the Lord Loves (these are from the top of my head)

Not much up there, is there?

First, the question was "how does Jesus love", not "does Jesus love". Second, you haven't even answered the question you made up for yourself to answer.

Romans 13:8 : Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

This doesn't say the Lord loves everybody. Or anybody.

John 12:47 : And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

This again doesn't say the Lord loves everybody. Or anybody.

John 3:16 : For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This specifically states that ONLY those who believe are loved. Note the bolded part.

Let's put it in context:

John 3:16-20

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

I color-coded for you.

In red: Anyone who doesn't believe is condemned because he doesn't believe. Not because of sins, but for not believing.

In purple: All non-Christians are evil. We know that they are evil because they refuse to become Christians; that is the proof.

God himself suffered for our sins when our lord was crucified! and his love is vast! all people that sin aren't condemed yet! its only if they die in their sin that they are now sinners ...

Can you show me Scripture which supports this assertion?

You are a sinner when you sin, you don't become a sinner at death.

God hates sin! not the sinners,

Can you show me Scripture which explains why the Bible repeatedly explains who God HATES?

if a sinner repents then god embraces him back into his flock and showers him with love!
but if that sinner never repents and ignore the message of our True GOD!
then all the wrath of the heavens will be bestowed upon him!!!!

God Bless us all!!!

And repenting once, then turning your back on God by sinning again? What of those?

Scripture, please, not your opinions.

Originally Posted by Kristian

I would give you my answer, if I wasn't sure it wouldn't get deleted and censored because it didn't fall in line with what you agree. The Lord loves because he told me himself, and that isn't a word of a lie!

Sure. Hearing voices, are you?

Why would your answer be deleted? You can believe whatever you like; we can't help you find Jesus if you won't tell us what the problem (your erroneous belief) is.

Unless, you are a white, american, gun owning, wife beating, real republican they will never agree with you unfortunately. Don't worry about it.

I'll agree with anyone who follows the Bible to the letter. I don't care what race the person is, or nationality, or gun ownership status.

And there are True Christians™ who are women. I do hope you aren't suggesting that they are lesbians.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Sure. Hearing voices, are you?

Hearing voices, just like moses did .

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Why would your answer be deleted? You can believe whatever you like; we can't help you find Jesus if you won't tell us what the problem (your erroneous belief) is.

I usually find my answer gets deleted whenever I lie.

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

I'll agree with anyone who follows the Bible to the letter. I don't care what race the person is, or nationality, or gun ownership status.

And there are True Christians™ who are women. I do hope you aren't suggesting that they are lesbians.

As for race and nationality, I have seen several threads on how evil non-white races are (I would link, but there enough in your forums). Pastor Ezekiel confirmed this for me by saying they may wish to 'seek advice' on their problems.

I would never suggest such a thing about your lovely female Christians. They are all beautiful and straight as a broom handle!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Kristian

Hearing voices, just like moses did .

Moses also saw a certain burning bush. And God's hindquarters. You'd know these things if you read the Bible, friend!

I usually find my answer gets deleted whenever I lie.

Then tell the truth! Problem solved.

As for race and nationality, I have seen several threads on how evil non-white races are (I would link, but there enough in your forums). Pastor Ezekiel confirmed this for me by saying they may wish to 'seek advice' on their problems.

I can only speak for my own opinion, not those of others. You may note that I am not a member of Landover Baptist Church, which is why I am an "Honorary True Christian™".

However, if you look at US crime statistics, it becomes apparent that non-white races appear to be more prone to committing crimes. Since crimes are sins, it is reasonable to extrapolate that they are also more likely to sin. Certainly seems logical enough, no?

As we know, if one sins, one is obviously not a True Christian™. For how could someone who truly believes God incarnated as Jesus, and died temporarily as the Final Sacrifice, then turn and spit in His face by continuing to sin?

Now, as for becoming "white", as an ex-Negro may wish to do, that has nothing to do with skin color. Rather, it's about giving up the traditional Negro deathstyle and embracing True Christian™ purity. I can see how you might misunderstand and think it's about skin bleaching and cosmetic surgery, a la Michael Jackson (a Jehovah's Witless in youth and an Islamist in his later days, far from a True Christian™).

Unfortunately, few are successful in such endeavor. Hormone Cain attempted to be an ex-Negro, and we see how well that turned out -- he sexually assaulted white women, and carried on a 13-year adulterous affair with one as well. He just couldn't get past his base lusts.

Eddie Long, megachurch pervert, couldn't keep his muscular body away from cameras, or the bulge in his wrestling singlet out of the tight posteriors of young men in his church. Once again, he couldn't break free from his instincts.

There certainly are non-white people who have successfully turned their backs on sin and perversion; but, given that the Hamites are cursed by God, they have a very hard time of it. They deserve our compassion, our support, and our watchful eye.

[Kristian]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Then tell the truth! Problem solved.

Ah, if only I had realised! I am sorry, and now can see the error in my ways. Thank you for correcting me on this!

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

I can only speak for my own opinion, not those of others. You may note that I am not a member of Landover Baptist Church, which is why I am an "Honorary True Christian™".

How may I become a Honorary True Christian™? I would love to be one. Especially one that is trademarked!

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

...
As we know, if one sins, one is obviously not a True Christian™. For how could someone who truly believes God incarnated as Jesus, and died temporarily as the Final Sacrifice, then turn and spit in His face by continuing to sin?
...

True Christians™ do not sin? I believe this may be one of the first steps to becoming a True Christian™, am I right?

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Now, as for becoming "white", as an ex-Negro may wish to do, that has nothing to do with skin color. Rather, it's about giving up the traditional Negro deathstyle and embracing True Christian™ purity. I can see how you might misunderstand and think it's about skin bleaching and cosmetic surgery, a la Michael Jackson (a Jehovah's Witless in youth and an Islamist in his later days, far from a True Christian™).

Unfortunately, few are successful in such endeavor. Hormone Cain attempted to be an ex-Negro, and we see how well that turned out -- he sexually assaulted white women, and carried on a 13-year adulterous affair with one as well. He just couldn't get past his base lusts.

Eddie Long, megachurch pervert, couldn't keep his muscular body away from cameras, or the bulge in his wrestling singlet out of the tight posteriors of young men in his church. Once again, he couldn't break free from his instincts.

There certainly are non-white people who have successfully turned their backs on sin and perversion; but, given that the Hamites are cursed by God, they have a very hard time of it. They deserve our compassion, our support, and our watchful eye.

Surely, everyone who sins needs our compassion, support and watchful eye - no matter creed, orientation or gender?

[Alphapwner]

Originally Posted by Brother_Percy

Friends,

As we are currently discussing Why Atheists are so miserable, I have decided to start this new thread - to continue my '101 Reasons' Series with '101 reasons why Atheists are WRONG'.

Reason No. 1 - The Holy Bible!

Atheists 'claim' that God doesn't exist, yet the Bible proves them WRONG! I can see the Bible, hold it in my hand, and know 1000% that it exists! As God wrote the Bible, this proves that he MUST EXIST too! How dumb these Atheists are!

Let's go into detail on this one. First of all, your using circular reasoning. The bible says god exists, and god says the bible is true. This cannot make sense. For example, if I was to write a book about unicorns, and it said, " I am the unicorn lord!". At the same time you ask.. how do we know this is true? Well if in the same book I wrote that the Unicorn Bible was truth because the Unicorn Lord said so. Then by your logic you would have to believe this. If not, then your whole concept collapses on itself and you become hypocritical. Therefore you damn yourself to hell. Keep in mind, I am an athiest. Not here to insult, just to point out my take on this.

Reason No. 2 - Evil-ution from Monkeys!

If we really evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys STILL exist? Surely they would've evolved too? And why don't we have tails or swing from trees or speak in monkey-talk? These atheists must be pretty deluded to believe such nonsense!

We did not evolve from Monkeys. We evolved from a common ancestor. The split was there at this common ancestor were one evolved into a more high thinking organism while the monkey stayed more at an instinctive level. This causes your argument to be invalid as you haven't been informed on evolution enough.

Also, before this argument is used because I can already perceive this coming.. Yes, we do not know what the common ancestor is. Though, if you say because you do not know then this means there must be a god is false. This is the simple god of the gaps argument. If you are to say that knowledge we do not know is a proof that god exists, then what about past knowledge that science proved? For example, you go back x amount of time were no one knew what Tides were. Let's say they gave the tides movement as proof of god, yet a few years later they observe that the Moon's gravity pull on the earth causes these ocean tides. Then this would mean that God is a pocket of scientific ignorance and therefore is receding.

Reason No. 3 - The 'Big Bang'

Atheists believe there was a 'Big Bang' which created the Earth and the Universe and all things?? Well, what created the 'Big Bang'?? And what was there before it 'banged'??? Ask ANY atheist - they won't be able to answer you! Why? Because God created the 'Big Bang'! And then went on to create the Earth and everything in just 6 days! Praise Jesus!

No one can answer the true source of anything without any beginning being specified. Let's say Source A made the world. Then with that logic we can ask what made Source A? Source B? Then What made Source B? Source C? Then What made Source C and so forth. It's a completely infinite loop. Also with your logic, it seems I can ask. Who made god? Do not quote the bible as the bible is many years old and does not count for the physics and other things such as astronomy that need to be attached to such a theory.

Reason No. 4 - Dinosaurs

Most dumb atheists believe that man and dinosaurs didn't inhabit the Earth at the same time. However, we know this to be a LIE! Didn't Noah ride dinosaurs onto the Ark? Aren't Dinosaurs mentioned throughout the Bible?

Checkmate - Atheist!

With Carbon dating dinosaurs have been known to be millions of years old. Also, please explain dinosaur bones? If it's some trick from god to "test our faith", why would he need to? He apparently is an omnipotent and all knowing god. Therefore our moral character is completely made for us. You'll refute with, he gave us free will! Yet, what about god's plan? If god has already chosen your future decisions based around his plan, then there is no free will. Also, this means he chose the sins or issues you will have. Therefore you cannot be judged, but he can as he is sinning due to him choosing what you'll do wrong.


Please respond without banning me/infracting me. I'm only here to see a good response.


....MORE TO FOLLOW....

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[VictoryOS]

What is your point, son? Why did you quote that long message just to add nothing at all to the conversation?

You had better get right with Jesus, boy. And soon.

[Alphapwner]

Originally Posted by VictoryOS

What is your point, son? Why did you quote that long message just to add nothing at all to the conversation?

You had better get right with Jesus, boy. And soon.

I wrote the blue text, sorry that I didn't make that clear.

[VictoryOS]

Originally Posted by Alphapwner

I wrote the blue text, sorry that I didn't make that clear.

I see that now. The last part of my previous post still stands however.

[Alphapwner]

Originally Posted by VictoryOS

I see that now. The last part of my previous post still stands however.

That's fine, your not the first to tell me this.

Though I am an atheist, and most likely will be banned soon due to me having a conflicting thoughts.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Alphapwner

That's fine, your not the first to tell me this.

Though I am an atheist, and most likely will be banned soon due to me having a conflicting thoughts.

It's nothing to do with having conflicting thoughts. It's about you being damned rude to Jesus. You atheists simply can't stop your yammering about how God is such a big fat liar [in your opinion].