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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 12:23 AM
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On the contrary I'm trying to understand your faith. As far as possible I'm trying to read the bible and understand it purely for what is said on the pages.
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Except you keep having to add you're own "common sense" into things. Trying to rectify the Bible with what the world is telling you. Does the Bible not tell us to reject the Worldly?
Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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where did I argue against six days?
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What kind of evolution takes only 6 days?
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Genesis 1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Genesis 1:11-12
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good
Genesis 1:20-21
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:24-25
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
sorry what did he tell you?
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Sounds like creation to me, explain how you get evolution out of that.
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ok in the interest of not filtering
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
only reference I found to death being a punishment for eating the forbidden fruit.
reading the text literally Adam should have died the day he ate from the fruit.
Interpreted God took mercy, lied, thought man would be incapable of living with such knowledge inside of him any number of things.
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So you believe Satan instead? You think the snake is the one to follow?
Genesis 3:4-6 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Again I say, Satan, get thee behind me!
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 01:12 AM
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Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
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Thankyou. exactly what I wanted, scripture that says death was the result of eating from the forbidden fruit. I even read Romans 5 to make sure it was referring to Adam. Of course this baffles me as to the need for a tree of life and the other points I made but 'Ours is not to wonder why...'
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Except you keep having to add you're own "common sense" into things. Trying to rectify the Bible with what the world is telling you. Does the Bible not tell us to reject the Worldly?
Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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So you should reject God's creation that he has given you dominion over?
think you better read those chapters again.
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What kind of evolution takes only 6 days?
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flour, eggs, sugar etc. > cakemix > cake. less than a day
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Sounds like creation to me, explain how you get evolution out of that.
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the waters brought forth abundant life, the earth brought forth life. explain to me how you got God making play-dough figures out of that? I know that's not what you said but I didn't say I got evolution from it. My point was there's scope there meaning to claim you know exactly how God did (or didn't do) it is to claim you know more than what the bible says.
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So you believe Satan instead? You think the snake is the one to follow?
Genesis 3:4-6 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
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Any scripture that says the snake is Satan?
would I believe the snake? did he lie?
following the snake got us in a whole heap of trouble so it is doubtful that it's a good idea to follow him.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 01:20 AM
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Thankyou. exactly what I wanted, scripture that says death was the result of eating from the forbidden fruit. I even read Romans 5 to make sure it was referring to Adam. Of course this baffles me as to the need for a tree of life and the other points I made but 'Ours is not to wonder why...'
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And you're quote is from the Bible then?
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So you should reject God's creation that he has given you dominion over?
think you better read those chapters again.
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You really have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you.
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flour, eggs, sugar etc. > cakemix > cake. less than a day
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Your cakemix evolves does it? Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you.
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the waters brought forth abundant life, the earth brought forth life. explain to me how you got God making play-dough figures out of that? I know that's not what you said but I didn't say I got evolution from it. My point was there's scope there meaning to claim you know exactly how God did (or didn't do) it is to claim you know more than what the bible says.
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Any scripture that says the snake is Satan?
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Revelation 12:9
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would I believe the snake? did he lie?
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So you admit to being a satanist.
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following the snake got us in a whole heap of trouble so it is doubtful that it's a good idea to follow him.
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and yet you play word games with God. Do you think you are going to stump him when you are judged? Do you think playing semantics is going to get you into heaven? Think again.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 01:44 AM
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And you're quote is from the Bible then?
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No.
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You really have a problem with reading comprehension, don't you.
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No.
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Your cakemix evolves does it? Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you.
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Yes. lookup the definition of evolution, the basic definition not the scientific one. Though I you're right, this doesn't prove my point. more aptly if God wanted evolution to take six days I think it would take six days.
If peradventure this chapter refers to the same serpent as Genesis then it completely contradicts the story of Genesis. Neglecting to mention of course that you would assert that a seven headed red dragon with ten horns and seven crowns becoming a serpent that crawls upon it's belly is not evolution.
Sorry who has a problem with reading comprehension?
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So you admit to being a satanist.
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No.
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and yet you play word games with God. Do you think you are going to stump him when you are judged? Do you think playing semantics is going to get you into heaven? Think again.
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You seem to think it's going to work for you.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 01:47 AM
Instead of playing semantics, why don't you get on your knee's and ask Jesus into your heart?
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 02:18 AM
You assume I haven't?
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 02:25 AM
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You assume I haven't?
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I'm assuming you've read the bits and pieces that some liebral church gave to you. They also seem to have taught you that the WORD doesn't mean what the WORD says.
But hey, as I said, you go right ahead and play your word games, see how well they stand up on the day of Judgement.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 02:42 AM
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You assume I haven't?
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If you asked with a sincere heart, God will not forsake you!
Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.
Psalm 37:4
O people of Zion, who live in Jerusalem, you will weep no more. How gracious he will be when you cry for help! As soon as he hears, he will answer you.
Isaiah 30:19
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Matthew 7:7
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Hebrews 13:5
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Galatians 5:22
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 02:56 AM
it's probably the sincere heart part I am lacking. But I have tried to seek the LORD's countenance and indeed I still try.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 03:52 AM
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it's probably the sincere heart part I am lacking. But I have tried to seek the LORD's countenance and indeed I still try.
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You're a godmocker. You spend your time mocking God rather than worshiping Him. The Holy Bible warns us about perverts like you.
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Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 04:55 AM
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it's probably the sincere heart part I am lacking. But I have tried to seek the LORD's countenance and indeed I still try.
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Exodus 33:22-23 "And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen."
Moses only got to see God's butt. You think you're better than Moses?
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 06:32 AM
Omg. My friend showed me this and we both loled for about 20 minutes straight. U guys are kinda like the muslims we are fighting in afghanistan except u dont hate a slecific religon. U just hate everyone. HAHAHAHAHA. Well thats all i gotta say. See u guys in hell. Peace.
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01-13-2012, 06:34 AM
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Omg. My friend showed me this and we both loled for about 20 minutes straight. U guys are kinda like the muslims we are fighting in afghanistan except u dont hate a slecific religon. U just hate everyone. HAHAHAHAHA. Well thats all i gotta say. See u guys in hell. Peace.
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You aren't in the military. You aren't fighting a damned thing.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 07:50 AM
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Omg. My friend showed me this and we both loled for about 20 minutes straight. U guys are kinda like the muslims we are fighting in afghanistan except u dont hate a slecific religon. U just hate everyone. HAHAHAHAHA. Well thats all i gotta say. See u guys in hell. Peace.
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Well, if there was any proof that all atheists are drugged, this is it.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-13-2012, 10:56 AM
Quick warning to all True Christians about our friend fencepost. You think you're speaking the same language as him but he has his own definition for big words that confuse him.
For example: he thinks anything that changes in any way has evolved. Wonder what he does at traffic lights...
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-15-2012, 01:36 PM
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For example: he thinks anything that changes in any way has evolved. Wonder what he does at traffic lights...
HTH
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Wait for the green man and cross? though I spose I should stop doing that, idol worship and all.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-15-2012, 01:39 PM
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Wait for the green man and cross? though I spose I should stop doing that, idol worship and all.
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But then you would run things over and what are you even doing looking at the pedestrian signals... oh.
God has not blessed you with transport. What is that telling you?
You seem to be toying with the idea that we are here to josh around with you like good buddies sharing a beer. We're here to save your soul and you are making it hard work with your lack of appreciation of Biblical reality.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-15-2012, 01:52 PM
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But then you would run things over and what are you even doing looking at the pedestrian signals... oh.
God has not blessed you with transport. What is that telling you?
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that God has blessed me with two legs, an excellent public transport system in the area I live and a plethora of the things I need available nearby.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-15-2012, 01:54 PM
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that God has blessed me with two legs, an excellent public transport system in the area I live and a plethora of the things I need available nearby.
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And a brain that isn't capable of thanking Him properly and worshipping Him...
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-15-2012, 02:02 PM
Well if that's the case then what should God expect of me? If he didn't bless me with the right tools then where does my responsibility end?
I'd prefer to take responsibility for my own mistakes. When I come face to face with God and He asks me why I did everything wrong I will be able to safely say I carefully considered all the evidence.
What will be your excuse for ignoring everything except one book?
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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