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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 05:58 PM
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As for the grasshopper with four legs, let me correct the statement, its says they have four feet. I do not know of any entomologist nor any person who things that grasshoppers have 2 arms.
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Well, you've obviously never met any Christians, then.
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I'm not sure where you get your definition of what arms and legs are or if you've really looked closely at a grasshopper, but it has 6 legs as it should.
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What do you mean, as it should? If it had six legs, it would be in defiance of God's Word! You think God should hate grasshoppers? You think the Bible should be wrong because of insects? Friend, you are wrong in the head.
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I notices you didn't mention how PI is incorrect in the bible. These are only a few examples too.
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What's wrong with 3? Seems like a nice round number to me.
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Nope. We try to drive a wedge between secular and spiritual parts of the world.
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Exactly like Jesus does! On one side of the wedge are people who are going to Hell, on the other there's people who're going to Heaven. Which will you choose?
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Yes, and people also died young without a decent healthcare for millennia.
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Stuff and nonsense. What about Methuselah? He didn't have any Clintonite socialist healthcare, and he was just fine.
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 06:23 PM
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Yes, it's that bad.
Gravitational lensing is an incredibly weak effect. It's nowhere near powerful enough to bend Sun rays by 90 degrees.
Do the math:
phi = 4GM / c2R, where "phi" is the angle of deflection, G - gravitational constant, "c" - speed of light in vacuum, R - radius.
For the Earth:
phi = 4*6.67*10^(-11)*5.97*10^24 / 9*10^16*6.37*10^6 ~= 2.79*10(-9) radians or 5*10-7 degrees.
I.e. the Earth can bend sunlight at the sea level by 0.00000007 degrees. That's a little bit different from the required 90 degrees.
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You get this number because of the size of the Universe you assume. We TRUE Christians know that the Universe is only 6,000 light years across, not the ludicrous 156 billion light years you secularist maintain. If you adjust the gravitational effect for a 6K Universe I am sure you will find it is 90’.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 08:05 PM
How has this topic reached 9 pages? Any scientist that is also a pastor at this church will tell you that Evolution is a bunch of hooplah. Debate over.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 08:57 PM
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You get this number because of the size of the Universe you assume. We TRUE Christians know that the Universe is only 6,000 light years across, not the ludicrous 156 billion light years you secularist maintain. If you adjust the gravitational effect for a 6K Universe I am sure you will find it is 90’.
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The age of the Universe does not matter. Also, it doesn't matter if the speed of light is different beyond our Solar System.
The equation for deflection angle contains only the constants which are measured directly on the Earth.
PS: I still don't understand, is these your REAL believes or are you just a bunch of comedians? The second option seems more and more plausible...
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 09:02 PM
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PS: I still don't understand, is these your REAL believes or are you just a bunch of comedians? The second option seems more and more plausible...
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That's something that Atheists are always trying to throw at us.
I can assure you we are as real as the Fires of Hell in which you and all that blaspheme against God will spend eternity.
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HE took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha Cumi; which is,
being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise!...Mark 5:41
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 09:11 PM
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PS: I still don't understand, is these your REAL believes or are you just a bunch of comedians? The second option seems more and more plausible...
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You almost think that this site is divine revelation and I have ran into the idea that these people were just pulling my leg. But after looking around for a couple of months and watching the posts and comments, all you see is ignorant truth. <--- Haha Oxymormonic!
I would like you to meet my imaginary friend, God.
"...as Christians we deal with the truth, just because something is written down in a book doesn't mean it happened." - Bobby-Joe
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-24-2008, 09:54 PM
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You almost think that this site is a divine revelation and I have ran into the idea that these people were just pulling my leg. But after looking around for a couple of months and watching the posts and comments, a ll you see is ignorant truth. <--- Haha Oxymormonic!
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As it should be, after all what do we men know in comparison to God? When He talks about the disk of the Earth in Isiah He should know what He is talking about.
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The age of the Universe does not matter. Also, it doesn't matter if the speed of light is different beyond our Solar System.
The equation for deflection angle contains only the constants which are measured directly on the Earth.
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If the Universe is smaller then it goes to follow the effect of gravity on light has to be greater to get the distortions at the distances observed. in the Wikipedia example is Darwinista science alleges the quasar Q0957+561 is 7.8 billion light years away when Christian science tells us truthfully that quasar Q0957+561 is 300 light years away. That means the gravity effect has to 26 million times stronger than you are calculating for.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-25-2008, 01:37 AM
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Friend,
What is it with you atheists? Every time we Christians make a point in the argument you claim we are joking? It’s like some kind of messed up version of Godwins law.
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I've heard it called Tabor's Law, Brother BJ. Is that the one you mean?
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-27-2008, 10:46 AM
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If the Universe is smaller then it goes to follow the effect of gravity on light has to be greater to get the distortions at the distances observed. in the Wikipedia example is Darwinista science alleges the quasar Q0957+561 is 7.8 billion light years away when Christian science tells us truthfully that quasar Q0957+561 is 300 light years away. That means the gravity effect has to 26 million times stronger than you are calculating for.
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Your "Christian science" is neither "science" nor "Christian"...
However, if speed of light was that much faster then it would mean that the electric constant and magnetic permeability of vacuum would be MUCH MUCH smaller.
They are connected by the equation:
c^2 * u * e = 1, where "c" is the speed of light in vacuum, "u" - vacuum permeability and "e" - the electric constant.
That would in turn mean that all electrons would immediately recombine with protons in atom nuclei (i.e. via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture which in our current Universe only works for some radioactive elements).
The weak nuclear force would stop being a 'weak' force, conventional chemistry would break down and so on.
In short, there should be a LOT of evidence from such a drastic change of lightspeed. We don't see such evidence.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-27-2008, 11:17 AM
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Blah, blah, blah, sickular science, blah, blah...
In short, there should be a LOT of evidence from such a drastic change of lightspeed. We don't see such evidence.
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The LORD does as He pleases, we are not who to question his methods. You prefer Einstein over Baby Jesus, so you will spend Eternity in Hell... enoy Satan's tallywacker (I assure you, it is bigger than the ones you are used to drool for).
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-27-2008, 06:46 PM
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The LORD does as He pleases, we are not who to question his methods. You prefer Einstein over Baby Jesus, so you will spend Eternity in Hell... enoy Satan's tallywacker (I assure you, it is bigger than the ones you are used to drool for).
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Two can play this game...
Are you sure it's not YOU who is distorts the truth and tries to disguise his own ignorance by invoking the name of the God?
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-27-2008, 08:01 PM
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Two can play this game...
Are you sure it's not YOU who is distorts the truth and tries to disguise his own ignorance by invoking the name of the God?
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Friend,
Were do we hide our ignorance? We openly admit we are fools, holy fools yes, but fools neither less. Our only wisdom is we follow The Word of God®, the only source of TRUE knowledge.
If anything we take pride in our ignorance friend.
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
03-29-2008, 05:34 AM
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Two can play this game...
Are you sure it's not YOU who is distorts the truth and tries to disguise his own ignorance by invoking the name of the God?
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This is all I need to know:
Proverbs 3: 5-7
"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil."
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Re: Richard Dawkins runs amok in Minnesota Movie theater! -
04-18-2008, 04:18 AM
New Dawkins sighting:
Members of the Landover security team have long known that Darwinist, anti-Jesus polemicist, and Uberathiest Richard Dawkins has been leading a secret life as a Mormon woman, but it was only with the recent raid on the polygamist Waiting For Satan Ranch that we were able to obtain photographic proof.
Compare this photo of the brainwashed Mormon women (OK, I guess that's redundant, if they're Mormon, of course they've been brainwashed)--Dawkins is in the gray lady in center:
with this video of Dawkins, dressed as a man, being completely shown up for the scientific fraud that she is by a group of students from Liberty University in Virginia:
You can see Dawkins's entire sinful talk HERE. I normally wouldn't bother recommending seeing any anti-Christian video, but it's worth seeing just how impoverished are the arguments put forward by Dawkins, the world's leading athiest. About the only points that he scores are his criticism of Catholicism as polytheistic paganism.
Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name.... Jeremiah 10:25
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