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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-05-2011, 06:49 PM

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Do you think because you have numbered your paragraphs that this post is not mere rambling chaos? Obviously the product of a Satanic mind.

I read it and do not see any place where it gets to a point. Some of the paragraphs are sentence fragments with no context.

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As a non-believer, I thought I might take up your argument point by point in a rational manner. My goal is not to bash Christianity, but to reason with it.
Besides the non-believer part, I see no problems here. Bashing Christianity is strictly forbidden here, so I caution you to err on the side of safety!

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1. Being an atheist does not necessitate believing in evolution, though I concede the two are quite compatible. Nihilists, not atheists, disbelieve in morality. I know atheists who, in some cases, set up strong moral boundaries for themselves. The idea that atheists think we should act like animals is ludicrous. Most atheists advocate technology and research, both of which displace us from the animals.
I think here you're mostly splitting hairs. Evolutionist, atheist, nihilist -- they're really all the same thing when it boils down to it: people who refuse to accept the basic truths of the Bible. Just one minor thing on my part: to say that atheists advocate technology and research is not totally true. If you've ever seen Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, you'd know that atheists across the country (indeed, the world) have a massive conspiracy against science which contradicts their preconceived notions. I highly recommend you watch it!

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2. I concede that proving God does not exist is impossible. By the same logic, proving that he does is impossible. Anyone trying to do either with certainty is being irrational. I agree with your point that the burden of proof should lie with both parties.
I am glad that you have conceded the first point, as that would preclude the very essence of a rational debate. We have high standards here with those we choose to speak with, and hope that you will maintain this high level of discourse! Proving that God exists, however, is not impossible at all. In a court of law, for instance, they allow evidence, and that evidence is used to prove things, and this is important, beyond a reasonable doubt. Now we both know that no one was around 6,000 years ago to witness God creating the world -- by definition that is impossible! However, each and every day we behold evidence of His Creation: the trees, the ocean, lakes, animals, people, etc. They were each designed by Him! This is evidence, the only evidence any reasonable person needs, to prove that the Lord designed and created every living thing!

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3. I cannot debate that the Bible is always right because it is undebatable. This is not a logical victory for Christianity because anything reasonable must be debatable. This point is built on faith and nothing else.
I appreciate that you are not willing to take the argument that the Bible is false. Again, you have conceded some of the most important tenets of Christianity, which is a fantastic step! However, I do take slight offense to your deeming it not a victory. Surely it is a victory for Christians the world over. The Bible is indeed the only undebatable Work! Faith is indeed the powerful force that drives Christianity, so belief in the infallibility of the Word, and therefore in God, is truly a victory for all Believers!

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4. I personally know Atheists who are quite fervid about their atheism. I assure you they do not at all believe in God. Being a former Christian, I myself am an example of a Christian who questioned God's existence. In fact, most atheists I know began as Christians in the first place (I come from a rural, very religious area). I know Christians now who have doubts, though I concede most of those will remain Christian.
Your friends may have convinced themselves that they do not believe in God, but everything that breathes in creation knows the Creator exists. There are no two ways about it. Romans 1:20 states: "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." There is not a single person who cannot know that there is a God. It is fairly well known amongst Christians that these deniers are simply afraid of having to answer to a Holy God who won't accept their "lifestyle choices" and are simply acting like petulant children. This is not uncommon.

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4. Atheism is a trademark of communism, not a motivational factor in its establishment. Communist revolutions happen because of class differences and cynical political leaders who prey on the ignorance of the working class. I'm a non-believer and I am a strong capitalist. I view communism as a weak and inferior economic system driven by fear.
I will admit that I know very little about Communism, aside from the occasional comment from Rush Limbaugh. I do see that you are at least aware of the evil that Obama is unleashing upon the American People as occupier of the White House. You may be an unbeliever now, but I can see that your views align closely with ours, and therefore I expect to see a conversion coming soon. I will be praying for you!

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5. Because I think of Shiva, Shiva therefore exists, and therefore all Christians are illogical. That statement is pure logical fallacy, as was yours.
Shiva, the 6-handed "god" of something-or-other? A sense of humor is always appreciated here, thank you! I don't see the connection with the previous statement though. Like I proved earlier, the Lord has been proven to exist by merit of the fact that *we* exist!

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6. If the signs were OBVIOUS and UNDENIABLE, then everyone would be a theist and this debate would be non-existent.
Again, as I mentioned earlier, every creature knows that God exists, beyond a doubt. The Lord has shown Himself time and time again. To deny Christ is to deny reality. As I said, many people are too scared to admit that they will have to answer to an all-powerful, all-holy, all-just God someday for their grievous sins, so they deny themselves the truth. It is a dangerous, dangerous thing to do, my friend, and I hope that you do not do the same.

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7. Anders Behring Brievik.
I admit that I do not know why you mention this?

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8. If you would like to donate to atheist charities, ATHEIST LINK
Atheist charities are constantly being proven to be simply a cover for money laundering. Without Jesus looking over your shoulder, what is the motivation to be honest and to help those in need? There has never been an honest, non-Christian charity, bank on it.

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10. Definition: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." You're describing evolution and the origins of the universe. This is like saying that Christianity is the belief that all non-Christians must be violently tortured so as to eradicate the heathens. What I just stated (I was referring to the Spanish Inquisition) was taken out of context with relation to the whole of Christianity, as was your statement with relation to Atheism.
Here you are just playing games. I believe I mentioned already the direct causation of atheists to evolution. I defy you to show me an Atheist who is also a Creationist. You will be unable to do it. Therefore, Atheists are, by definition, evolutionists, and vice versa.

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11. You're right, atheists do not believe in miracles. This is most likely because no atheist has seen a supernatural event, only claims by Christians that they have witnessed supernatural events.
Everyone has seen a supernatural miracle, they just have different words for it. Again, it goes back to having to give God credit: atheists merely deny themselves reality, and hope that these things don't exist.

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12. Atheists cannot explain the origins of the universe. Therefore, Zeus exists. Same logic...
Riiiiiight, where are Zeus' writings. Where is Zeus when people pray? Zeus is a made-up real god of people in antiquity. Jesus Christ has outlived him by over 2,000 years!

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14. Using your argument, I will be on the lookout for any mentally unstable people who are Christians. If I find one, that means that God does not exist (of course it doesn't mean that)
I am unsure of why you are using this roundabout proof of God's existence. I think Answers in Genesis has it listed under the "Do not use" proofs for God, although I don't know why.

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15. Much of Latin and South America are VERY strongly Christian, yet so much violence and death takes place in various places there. The idea that a Christian society is intrinsically moral is false, as we can see from troubled, Christian areas. Also, disbelieving in an afterlife means an atheist does not anticipate death like a Christian does. In fact, you hear from many Christians that they "cannot wait." There have also been Christian suicide cults throughout history.
You're making a false connection here. Latin and South America are primarily Catholics, and a reasonably intelligent person like you must know the difference between Catholics and Christians. Name one Christian society that isn't intrinsically moral? I have an example of one that is: America.

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16. I don't see how Freud's opinion affects anything at all. If there were evil popes( and there were...), is Christianity immoral? That argument doesn't hold water.
Again, here we go with the convolution of Christianity with Catholicism. Were you raised Catholic? There is no connection whatsoever, other than the Catholic church borrowed a few ideas to try to make a couple bucks.

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17. What about pastors who used greeters and info cards to find out some problems with a specific audience member, and then single them out like it was a divine inspiration? Is that not deceptive?
This is what ministry is all about -- I am confused about what you think is so terrible. The notecards are used to direct the Pastor (and Jesus) to help those in needs. Any person with problems needs nothing more than to hear the encouraging words of a Pastor, don't you agree? How is that deceptive??

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19. This one makes me question whether you are a serious Christian or whether this post is a joke. Christians are superstitious, they always have been. They do not embrace the cold, logical world around them. That sounds more like atheism. And...are you saying that Muslims are atheists because they aren't Christian?
What is a joke about Christianity?? I thought this was supposed to be a rational debate and not an insult-fest. I hope you were being tongue-in-cheek here. We've already mentioned that the cold, logical world around us points to one thing: a Creator. I don't see why this is viewed as "superstitious". You don't see Christians gathering around a ouija board or anything like that, do you? (If you do, please alert Bobby Joe!)

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20. Atheism is not on the decline. More and more people are beginning to question religious beliefs. Whether or not you are cautious is irrelevant.
You must be reading the atheistic liberal media drivel that makes the rounds. This claim is made every few years, but persistently nearly 30% of the country expects to see Jesus in their lifetimes, and nearly 70% are Christians. Don't be deceived by their lies!

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23. My personal cause for dis-belief stems from rational thought and research on the subject, not from any of those reasons. It seems as though you're simply trying to demonize the other side.
I will not insult your (lack of) belief, but i will ask one question. Why is it that you trust your own, admittedly fallible, brain above the Creator, One who created all Life & Matter? Not to mention, and I imagine you've heard this before, but imagine what happens when you die. If you're wrong, you burn in Hell forever. If I am wrong, nothing will happen! Just something to think about.

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24. What is "good" really depends on who you are, where you are, whom you are among, and when you are. Even Christians interpretations of what is good have changed throughout the centuries. If good is universal, does that mean that only people now who exist in the modern evolution of Christian theology know what actions they should define their life by? If not, then what separates your actions (given guidance of course by the hand of God, because you are saved and all), from a Medieval crusader who slaughtered and pillaged in the name of spreading His word?
I am afraid you are mistaken. The Word of God is Timeless and never changes. Although I agree that there are times when what is right and what is wrong are confusing, the answer is always in the Bible, given enough reading time and prayer! That is why we are commanded to spend much time in prayer and reading the Bible!

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25. Once again, I question the legitimacy of the poster. There were scientists before Jesus was born (Greece anyone? China?), and who were not Jewish. Therefore, Christianity does not own a monopoly on science.
All good scientific discoveries were made by religious men. Newton, for instance. It was all driven by a desire to know the Creator better. Others just happened across it by accident!

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29. I am living proof that this point is simply untrue. I know many atheists who began as Christians as well.
This is a common argument that simply isn't true. No true Christian would every walk away from the Lord. Once you have known Christ, there simply is no other alternative!

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31. So you're saying the Bible is basically incomprehensible.
The Bible is an incredibly complex book that takes many lifetimes to master. That is why Pastor Deacon Fred is so highly revered! The man has so much inherent Biblical knowledge that he simply outpaces any other preacher I've ever met.

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32. Some atheists do make bad arguments and they make all atheists look stupid. Some christians make bad arguments (like you, frankly), and they make all christians look stupid.
In true atheistic fashion you once again resort to petty insults. I will overlook this insult with the hope that you will not try such a thing again!

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34. I've never met more hard-line atheists than those in philosophy majors. If a Christian would have walked in to a philos club meeting, they would have been torn apart.
Occasionally there are those of us who venture into such places, and I assure you that, while there may be physical danger, there is no danger to our beliefs! No one has every been able to prove a single part of the Bible wrong, so a Christian who enters such an atmosphere with the full armor of God cannot be defeated!

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36. The French Revolution had more to do with taxes, class differences, and ideas of freedom than religion.
But do not all of those things ultimately stem from one's religious beliefs? I mean, we know that God blesses those that bless Israel, so that explains economics, taxes are evil, as Reagan proved, etc.

Anyways, I hope that you stick around. Despite your few insults, I think that you might fit in well here!

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Ok, please explain to me, why do you believe in god? How did he create the world in six days? I personally find it to be much more realistic that we evolved to the creatures we are now than the idea that we were created by some godly being.
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Ok, please explain to me, why do you believe in god? How did he create the world in six days? I personally find it to be much more realistic that we evolved to the creatures we are now than the idea that we were created by some godly being.
God created the world. It's in the Bible.


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Attention, just a quick notice that you "Heathen Basher" are an idiot.
You have offended me because half of my friends are atheists, does this mean that they are all secretly communists and plotting to kill me??? Of course not, quit posting these lies because you are totally lost and confused. DO you think that Jesus would want you to be posting these things about the people that he has created? Maybe he wants you to be kind to them and bring them into his holy light, instead of insulting them and ridiculing them so that they hate us?
I will not stand for this. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
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Attention, just a quick notice that you "Heathen Basher" are an idiot.
You have offended me because half of my friends are atheists, does this mean that they are all secretly communists and plotting to kill me??? Of course not, quit posting these lies because you are totally lost and confused. DO you think that Jesus would want you to be posting these things about the people that he has created? Maybe he wants you to be kind to them and bring them into his holy light, instead of insulting them and ridiculing them so that they hate us?
I will not stand for this. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 04:05 AM

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If you were a Christian, you wouldn't have atheists for friends.
Buddy can I just say this?
Try and think rationally, I implore you.
My choice in my friends is my choice, and you dare to state that I am not a Christian because some of my friends are Atheist, then you cannot call yourself one either.
"Love one another as you would love yourself"
I understand that you will ban me from this but I don't care. If you want to know what I think (which I doubt) all those people that you have banned because they decide to go against what you say are right and you are wrong, because they see the bigger picture.
You don't.
I am really sick of you because you are a bully, and bullies are not nice, (Obviously) but here is the major reason why I don't really like you. You decide to put everyone that does not think like you in a bad light.
I do not understand why you must go about to people that do not YET believe in God and critise them for that fact, because the simple matter is that they need proof that God is real, and as Christians we need to let God work through us. I think that you are letting the team down dude.

So in conclusion, Pastor Ezekiel, I am a Christian and I have atheist friends, deal with it. I hope that through the way I act that they will see God's work in my life, and see that God is real and is not in a forum.
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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 04:08 AM

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. I am a Christian and I love the Lord Almighty, however I loathe these comments that are incorrectly made and idiotic.
May the Lord Bless You With Wisdom




You are sissy-false-Christian that is no different than a homosexual anti-Christ, you un-saved, heathen trash!

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Matthew
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It is absolutely apparent, by your friendship wit foul Atheists, that this is the works that you bare!

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5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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1 Samuel
15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

1 Corinthians
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Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 05:26 AM

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Buddy can I just say this?
Try and think rationally, I implore you.
My choice in my friends is my choice, and you dare to state that I am not a Christian because some of my friends are Atheist, then you cannot call yourself one either.
"Love one another as you would love yourself"
I understand that you will ban me from this but I don't care. If you want to know what I think (which I doubt) all those people that you have banned because they decide to go against what you say are right and you are wrong, because they see the bigger picture.
You don't.
I am really sick of you because you are a bully, and bullies are not nice, (Obviously) but here is the major reason why I don't really like you. You decide to put everyone that does not think like you in a bad light.
I do not understand why you must go about to people that do not YET believe in God and critise them for that fact, because the simple matter is that they need proof that God is real, and as Christians we need to let God work through us. I think that you are letting the team down dude.

So in conclusion, Pastor Ezekiel, I am a Christian and I have atheist friends, deal with it. I hope that through the way I act that they will see God's work in my life, and see that God is real and is not in a forum.
You bring up two issues that I will address. One, getting banned; two, hanging out with queers.

First: people are banned for one reason and one reason only: disobeying the site rules.

If you have spent any time here whatsoever, you will find that there are many long-time members who are hell-bound atheists, child-molesting priests, wishy-washy agnostics, tree-fornicating wiccans and even liberals.

How do they maintain their posting privileges? They follow the rules.

Sure, they get their cheap shots in, but they are useful to have around to illustrate the depths of depravity that are in store for you if you turn your back on God.

Second: you know God can't stand sodomy (Leviticus 20:13). He's destroyed entire TOWNS because of it (notice the etymology of "sodomite'). And when you hang around queers, that is showing your implicit agreement with their deathstyle.

How do I know? It's right there in the Bible!

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 04:07 PM

Atheism may be wrong, or right, who knows. You can't prove that god does or doesn't exist, it's a faith thing.


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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 05:17 PM

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You are sissy-false-Christian that is no different than a homosexual anti-Christ, you un-saved, heathen trash!

We are True-Christians™ and we follow the bible to the LETTER!


Matthew
16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It is absolutely apparent, by your friendship wit foul Atheists, that this is the works that you bare!

Galatians
5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Therefore, your soul is in danger for speaking against the annointed congregation of God's Favorite Church, Landover Baptist Church!

1 Samuel
15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

1 Corinthians
16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

....I see nothing in the quotes that you posted that show that he has committed some type of sin. You are just pointing out that clearly the bible has a problem with atheists. It may be apparent to you that the Bible somehow claims he is in the wrong, but many parts of the bible are so vague you can interpret it in almost any way you please.
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Angry Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 05:45 PM

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Atheism may be wrong, or right, who knows. You can't prove that god does or doesn't exist, it's a faith thing.
Wow! Peeing on Gods foot while He holds you up facing uncertainty of life.


Atheism is wrong. Plain and simple. Evey True Christian™ knows!
God has been proven to exist, time and time again. Faith is hoping that by following the inerrant Word Of God, He will notice and take pity on your soul. God has noticed you because His foot is warm and wet.


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 08-22-2011, 06:09 PM

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....I see nothing in the quotes that you posted that show that he has committed some type of sin. You are just pointing out that clearly the bible has a problem with atheists. It may be apparent to you that the Bible somehow claims he is in the wrong, but many parts of the bible are so vague you can interpret it in almost any way you please.

Actually, you are wrong. We have an annointing that shows us the correct interpretaion of scripture.

1 John
2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The bible says it and that settles it.

1 Corinthians
2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
It is all within the bible, and sense you are obviously a naturalist, it is not possible for you to interpret anything in the scripture. However, we True-Christians™ can, and it is absolutely correct.


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Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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Atheism may be wrong, or right, who knows. You can't prove that god does or doesn't exist, it's a faith thing.
Are you Chinese? I've heard from several missionary friends that many in China haven't even heard of the bible.
That would explain why you don't know of the undeniable proof:

I still don't understand how atheists can be so blind...


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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 09-06-2011, 06:13 AM

"there are no atheists in foxholes". this is not an argument against atheism. It's an argument against foxholes.
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"there are no atheists in foxholes". this is not an argument against atheism. It's an argument against foxholes.
Have you ever had an original thought?

My apologies if you are, indeed, Mr Murrow.


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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 09-06-2011, 09:02 AM

Sorry for not giving credit to Mr. Murrow. Didn't know who coined the phrase but always liked it. I figure that a truly loving god wouldn't have to scare the wits out of me to believe.
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I figure that a truly loving god wouldn't have to scare the wits out of me to believe.
God disagrees. But hey! I'm sure the creator of everything will change his mind now He knows you've had a thought.

Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.



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John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 09-09-2011, 02:30 PM

listen Christians always ask me what if i'm wrong? well what if you are then its just about as bad. you've spent your entire life prepping for the afterlife. you've waisted it
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Default Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth - 09-09-2011, 02:56 PM

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listen Christians always ask me what if i'm wrong? well what if you are then its just about as bad. you've spent your entire life prepping for the afterlife. you've waisted it
No we have not, you foul heathen trash!

The bible says that it is the inspired Word of God, and that settles it.

1 Corinthians
3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Therefore, we follow the bible which was penned by the Lord, and thus, we follow the Lord and have a future in Glory. You do not, and cannot because you are a stupid heathen that carries a foul smell.

1 John
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Also, before you waste any more of our time and further demonstrate that you have trouble comprehending basic concepts, go to the introductions section and tell us about yourself.


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Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
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Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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