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Default Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 05:12 PM

Just for grins let's pretend a single celled life form evolved in a primordial soup. What was there for it to eat? It would have starved to death and we would once again be back to no life forms.

Is not the world one big food chain? The only inorganic materials here are minerals (rocks ) metals and water. Where are the life forms that eat diamonds and lead?


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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 05:24 PM

A brilliant and novel refutation of all things evolutionary! I was unaware that you were such a Godly Biblical Scientist. It is only by these observations that we prove God time and again.

It reminds me of my father's rat prat fall trap. He would set the trap and catch about 10 or 15 of the creatures inside. He would then seal it for a couple of weeks. Upon bringing the trap out of the earth, there would only be one fat rat left to kill!





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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 05:28 PM

Brother, this is sounding a great deal like God created the universe. Amen.

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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 05:42 PM

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A brilliant and novel refutation of all things evolutionary! I was unaware that you were such a Godly Biblical Scientist. It is only by these observations that we prove God time and again.

It reminds me of my father's rat prat fall trap. He would set the trap and catch about 10 or 15 of the creatures inside. He would then seal it for a couple of weeks. Upon bringing the trap out of the earth, there would only be one fat rat left to kill!

Thank you Brother Bathfire. I was just tired of the evolutionist scientists always saying we creationist are incapable of refuting their silly theory with facts or logic and that all we have is a Biblical story.


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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 06:15 PM

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I was just tired of the evolutionist scientists always saying we creationist are incapable of refuting their silly theory with facts or logic and that all we have is a Biblical story.
I take it that you did point them to Genesis 1? A more beautiful, complete and succinct exposition of the Truth, I cannot imagine! And what do they have? Reams and reams of squiggles on papers, bits of rock and bones, all open to contradiction and then they fall out amongst themselves! Ha!





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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 06:22 PM

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Just for grins let's pretend a single celled life form evolved in a primordial soup. What was there for it to eat? It would have starved to death and we would once again be back to no life forms.

Is not the world one big food chain? The only inorganic materials here are minerals (rocks ) metals and water. Where are the life forms that eat diamonds and lead?
Just as a mental exercise let us pretend that the evilutionists are right and a couple of those beginning life forms popped up magically. [I'm really trying not to laugh.] Since the diameter of the earth is 25,000 miles that gives us a radius of 12,500 miles. So squaring that gives us 1,562,500,000. Multiply that by PI results in 4,906,250,000 square miles. That is one heck of a bowl of soup.

Imagine a couple of individual cells trying to find each other to mate, let alone finding a piece of food even it it too magically popped into existence.

Brother Barnabus, I thing you are really on to something here.


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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 06:29 PM

Well, I'm no creation scientist, but where did the soup come from in the first place? Did God make it? And wouldn't it just go bad if it wasn't sealed in a can or whatever? And what are primordials anyway? Are they like chickens or something?




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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 06:38 PM

Brother Barnabus, this brilliant argument of yours is clearly the final nail in the coffin of the evolution theory. I think as soon as evolution scientists all over the world hear about this they are going to close down a lot of departments. This will give them time to do useful things instead like picking up garbage and cleaning the sewers.


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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 06:52 PM

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Just for grins let's pretend a single celled life form evolved in a primordial soup. What was there for it to eat? It would have starved to death and we would once again be back to no life forms
This is a strawman. Even today we have prokaryotes that feed on inorganic compounds.

There are bacteria that feed on nitrogen, there are even bacteria that thrive on amonia.

Look up lithotroph, which literally means "eaters of rock"
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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 07:07 PM

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Just as a mental exercise let us pretend that the evilutionists are right and a couple of those beginning life forms popped up magically. [I'm really trying not to laugh.] Since the diameter of the earth is 25,000 miles that gives us a radius of 12,500 miles. So squaring that gives us 1,562,500,000. Multiply that by PI results in 4,906,250,000 square miles. That is one heck of a bowl of soup.

Imagine a couple of individual cells trying to find each other to mate, let alone finding a piece of food even it it too magically popped into existence.

Brother Barnabus, I thing you are really on to something here.
"find each other to mate"?

Do you know anything about prokaryot life forms? They do not need to mate with another individual of his species.

Besides, only special locations on earth is possible for organisms 'popping into existence'.
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"find each other to mate"?

Do you know anything about prokaryot life forms? They do not need to mate with another individual of his species.
Were you there? How do you know what the very first organisms were like? So me a fossil of them.

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This is a strawman. Even today we have prokaryotes that feed on inorganic compounds.

There are bacteria that feed on nitrogen, there are even bacteria that thrive on amonia.

Look up lithotroph, which literally means "eaters of rock"
Strawman? Like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz??? Please stay on topic!

If there were organisms that ate inorganic material, What impetus wrought the predator/Prey arrangement?


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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 08:51 PM

But, it still doesn't address Brother Barnabus's main point, regardless. Say the first life forms were these rock-eaters or whatever. Why would there be a change in evolution? It's not like rocks were going away as a food source. Look around you. All you SEE is rocks! So if anything, it makes more sense for organisms to stay rock-eating organisms....why would they change to eat biological matter?



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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 09:41 PM

As seen from a scientific viewpoint the world was not created in 10 seconds or with a big bang, it took several billion year for the earth to become what it is now,please do not forget that the aliens helped create Atlantis, Atlantis was the base for all first civilization,The minoans, The Babylonians,etc. The quarks and dark matter collided and formed a large explosion with lots of black holes , the world was then cultivated by the first lifeforms,bacteria,lizard men, and the Ancient Ctulhu who now sleeps in the cursed city of R'lyeh, Ctulhu Ftagn, when the stars are right the ancient one will rise from the sea and begin his reign of terror. Ehem i am losing sight of my original subject,as we can see the only truth in the universe is Bob Jr Dobbs,slack is the only salvation. Praise Bob.
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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 09:52 PM

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As seen from a scientific viewpoint the world was not created in 10 seconds or with a big bang, it took several billion year for the earth to become what it is now,please do not forget that the aliens helped create Atlantis, Atlantis was the base for all first civilization,The minoans, The Babylonians,etc. The quarks and dark matter collided and formed a large explosion with lots of black holes , the world was then cultivated by the first lifeforms,bacteria,lizard men, and the Ancient Ctulhu who now sleeps in the cursed city of R'lyeh, Ctulhu Ftagn, when the stars are right the ancient one will rise from the sea and begin his reign of terror. Ehem i am losing sight of my original subject,as we can see the only truth in the universe is Bob Jr Dobbs,slack is the only salvation. Praise Bob.
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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 10:44 PM

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As seen from a scientific viewpoint the world was not created in 10 seconds or with a big bang, it took several billion year for the earth to become what it is now,please do not forget that the aliens helped create Atlantis, Atlantis was the base for all first civilization,The minoans, The Babylonians,etc. The quarks and dark matter collided and formed a large explosion with lots of black holes , the world was then cultivated by the first lifeforms,bacteria,lizard men, and the Ancient Ctulhu who now sleeps in the cursed city of R'lyeh, Ctulhu Ftagn, when the stars are right the ancient one will rise from the sea and begin his reign of terror. Ehem i am losing sight of my original subject,as we can see the only truth in the universe is Bob Jr Dobbs,slack is the only salvation. Praise Bob.
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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 11:27 PM

Look, if the world was as old as these science types claim, those bugs or whatever that eat rocks would have eaten the whole earth by now.

Game, set, and match for creationism!




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Default Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-16-2011, 11:40 PM

Lets look at the "Big Bang Theory" scientists have come up with. They say the universe started out as something as big as the period at the end of this sentence. Where did THAT little speck come from scientists? They say that you can't create something from nothing, but yet they contradict themselves with the big bang theory. God created the Heavens and the Earth, and the rest of the universe. Why can't they accept that and move on and do what the Cranky Old Man said
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This will give them time to do useful things instead like picking up garbage and cleaning the sewers.
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Talking Re: Life from Nothing? Please Explain! - 01-17-2011, 12:02 AM

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This is a strawman. Even today we have prokaryotes that feed on inorganic compounds.

There are bacteria that feed on nitrogen, there are even bacteria that thrive on amonia.

Look up lithotroph, which literally means "eaters of rock"
I see.

Animals that eat rock. And what eats them? Paper? We all know scissors eat paper.

Now really, isn't using a child's game here a bit ridiculous?


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