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Old 02-19-2014, 09:32 AM
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This is change under the sofa cushions for the Roman institution.

Archdiocese to settle priest abuse cases for $13M
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles will pay $13 million to settle 17 clergy abuse lawsuits, including 11 that involve a visiting Mexican priest who fled prosecution and remains a fugitive more than 25 years later, plaintiffs' attorneys said Tuesday.

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The archdiocese settled more than 500 cases in 2007 for a record $660 million and has resolved numerous others since then, individually and in small groups.

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Those files show that [former Archbishop of Los Angeles, Cardinal] Mahony and other top archdiocese officials maneuvered behind the scenes to shield accused priests and protect the church from a growing scandal while keeping parishioners in the dark. The cardinal was publicly rebuked by his successor, Archbishop Jose Gomez, after the files were publicized.
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The Roman institution demonstrates yet again that shame is a foreign concept.

When is a priest not a priest? When he's molesting a child, diocese says in defense of lawsuit
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Yet McAlinden wasn’t officially a priest when he took a teenage Naples to Delaware, the lawyer argued.

“How do we determine when a priest is and is not on duty?” one of the justices asked, according to a video of the session on the court’s website.

“Well,” replied the diocese lawyer, “you can determine a priest is not on duty when he is molesting a child, for example. ... A priest abusing a child is absolutely contrary to the pursuit of his master’s business, to the work of a diocese.”

The statement — one prong of the diocese’s argument that it should not be held responsible for McAlinden’s alleged assaults — left Naples reeling.

"Any hope I had that the church was concerned about me as a victim or about the conduct of its priests was totally gone," Naples, now 42, said in a recent interview. "They were washing their hands of it. I was shattered. I just couldn’t believe that was one of their arguments."
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Just an iteration of the Ellis defence. Papist responses may be viewed here.

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§ There is no such thing as the "Ellis defence". The Ellis decision did not create new law. It did not create a shield to protect church parties from legal action. Church parties can and have been sued.
The Ellis defence does not refer to any new category of law, but rather to an effective response by the church to a claim brought by Ellis. He lost. They won. They were defending. That is the Ellis defence. vide infra

§ After Mr Ellis lost his court case, he received several hundred thousand dollars in financial assistance from the Archdiocese. In addition, the body corporate of the Archdiocese did not require Mr Ellis to pay its costs of the case – even though the court had ordered Mr Ellis to do so.
O niggardly Ellis. O magnanimous Pell.

§ The suggestion that the Church cannot be sued by victims of sexual abuse is incorrect.
A particularly cynical response since anyone may go to law over any matter regardless of whether their case is likely to succeed or certain to be thrown out. What was made clear in this particular case was that an Australian court does not have jurisdiction over an entity based in the Vatican, that the Vatican entity does not have "branches" and that local dioceses do not own property. The diocese consists of the people living in it only and any lawsuit brought would be against them, or maybe a oriest (who does not own anything) in effect meaning that damages awarded would come out of the collection plate and not from sale of assets (because gold crosses, gilded altars, church buildings, assorted mansions and so on are not assets of the diocese).

§ Church officials and Church entities responsible for abuse in the Church either directly or by their negligence can be and are sued.
A good example being Cardinal Pell. He was sued by Ellis. Ellis lost. In other words the Cardinal was not an official or entity responsible for abuse in the Church either directly or by his negligence.

§ Ellis stands for nothing more than the commonsense proposition that you cannot be liable for wrong doing of others unless you are directly or indirectly responsible for supervising their conduct.
Or in commonsensespeak priests are unsupervised and forbidding them to marry does not constitute indirect responsibility.

§ The Archdiocese of Sydney has not organised its affairs to avoid its responsibilities to victims.
No, the international labyrinth has.

§ The Catholic Church is not like a corporation with one basic structure for its activities.
Yes, that's the whole point of the Ellis defence.

§ Where liability or potential liability is clear the Archdiocese accepts responsibility and seeks to resolve the complaint.
It has always been clear that where archdioceses are involved nothing will ever be clear, especially not liability.

§ The Church is strongly committed to helping victims of abuse and where responsibility is clear, the Archdiocese of Sydney seeks to resolve claims out of court.
Yes, they do like the expression "where responsibility is clear" and although claims might be resolved out of court from time to time should the in court option be taken more funds are available for lawyers than would ever be lavished on out of court settlements.

§ Most importantly, the Archdiocese of Sydney is committed to ensuring victims are treated justly and with compassion and respect.
Ellis is educated in Law. He was interviewed recently. There is a legal meaning for the expression novel use. Archdiocesan invokation of the words compassion and respect constitutes novel use by any commonsense definition of those words. But we're not really talking commonsense here, are we. This is law. Big Law with a budget of trillions, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

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_Transcript 11 March 2014 http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2014/s3960863.htm
In a statement to the Royal Commission, Cardinal George Pell says he's troubled by the way that case was handled.
He says it's his view that the Church should be able to be sued in cases of that kind.
Father Frank Brennan is a professor of law at the Australian Catholic University:

FRANK BRENNAN: It's heartening to see that at the top leadership of the Catholic Church in Australia, in relation to a case where Cardinal Pell himself was involved as the Archbishop of Sydney while this litigation was playing itself out, it would seem that in hindsight he's saying, "We've got to be able to do better than that." And I think that's good news for everyone.
Whizz for Atoms (and Cardinal Pell). Cardinals belong to a very high order of self-aggrandisement. Their insight must far exceed mine and indeed my commonsense appreciation of language, a commonsense they have promoted vide supra §5, must be especially deficient. "We've got to be able to do better than that" suggests some underlying desire, unfulfilled.

In my delusion, the one I mistake for commonsense, underlying desires produce present actions. Actions such as instructing lawyers to crush this worm and don't spare the horses. And "good news for everyone" means glad tidings for more than just the Vatican bank. Yes, mine is a confused and blurry vista. Let's take another look at how the current grand fromage from that august bank acted out the earnest desire to do better than he did:

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_updated 28 March 2014 (same link as at top of page)
Cardinal George Pell (as head of the Sydney Catholic archdiocese) instigated the archdiocese's legal battle against the former altar boy John Ellis, according to evidence and documents presented to Australia's child-abuse Royal Commission in March 2014. Pell's legal victory in 2007 (known as the "Ellis defence") now forces church-victims to accept a discounted in-house "Towards Healing" settlement instead of suing for proper compensation, the Commission was told.
That's some serious commonsense right there. What was his reward?

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_Updated 25 Feb 2014 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-25/george-pell-named-as-head-of-vatican-finances/5281300
"The Holy Father today announced a new coordination structure for economic and administrative affairs of the Holy See and the Vatican State," it said in a statement.

The Vatican said the move followed recommendations made by cardinals advising the Pope, including for a "more formal commitment" to international standards.

The changes "will ensure better use of resources, improving the support available for various programs, particularly our works with the poor," it said.

It is seen as a plum posting for Cardinal Pell, who will relocate to the Vatican by the end of next month.

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And the "Worst Liar" award goes to....

St. Louis Archbishop Didn't Know Sex With Children Was a Crime
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The St. Louis Archbishop embroiled in a sexual abuse scandal testified last month that he didn’t know in the 1980s whether it was illegal for priests to have sex with children, according to a court deposition released Monday.

Archbishop Robert Carlson, who was chancellor of the Archdiocese of Minneapolis and St. Paul at the time, was deposed as part of a lawsuit against the Twin Cities archdiocese and the Diocese of Winona, Minnesota.

In a video released by the St. Paul law firm Jeff Anderson & Associates, the Catholic archbishop is asked whether he had known it was a crime for an adult to engage in sex with a child.

“I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,” Carlson responded. “I understand today it’s a crime.”

When asked when he first realized it was a crime for an adult — including priests — to have sex with a child, Carlson, 69, shook his head.

“I don’t remember,” he testified.
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Of course he didn't .It's long been a "teaching" in the Catlick Church that exercize and entertainment comes from the weekly kidnapping and Public Spanking of our precious True Christian™ Youth. (See news photos, below.) After that little rite's over, it follows it's open season on EVERYTHING!

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[/B]Of course he didn't .It's long been a "teaching" in the Catlick Church that exercize and entertainment comes from the weekly kidnapping and Public Spanking of our precious True Christian™ Youth. (See news photos, below.) After that little rite's over, it follows it's open season on EVERYTHING!

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Thank you for posting this most revealing picture, Mistress Cookie. I must note Pope Benedict's eyes are focused on the male's most prominent anatomy.
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Why settle for being a sodomite (Romans 1:26-27) when you can be both a sodomite and a hypocrite (Matthew 7:1-5)?

Sodomaniac "news" source (please rebuke the demons of queeritude before clicking):
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The Roman Catholic archbishop of Minneapolis and St. Paul, who has been particularly outspoken against homosexuality, is under investigation for allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct with other men, including priests and seminarians, reports Catholic magazine Commonweal.

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Nienstedt issued a statement calling the accusations a “personal attack against me due to my unwavering stance on issues consistent with church teaching, such as opposition to so-called same-sex marriage.” He elaborated in an interview with Commonweal, saying, “I have never engaged in sexual misconduct and certainly have not made any sexual advances toward anyone. The allegations are a decade old or more, prior to my service as archbishop of St. Paul and Minneapolis.” He added that “none of the allegations involve minors or illegal or criminal behavior.”
Shorter Archbishop Nienstedt: "I didn't do it, it was a long time ago, and it didn't involve minors."
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HOT FROM THE PRESS!

The Pope has announced that only 2% of catholic priests are pedophiles. If this is true (which I doubt) then it is a lot less than we thought. Do you think what he means is that only 2% of them have so far been proved to be pedos?

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He vowed to "confront it with the severity it demands".
What do you suppose that means, exactly?

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HOT FROM THE PRESS!

The Pope has announced that only 2% of catholic priests are pedophiles. If this is true (which I doubt) then it is a lot less than we thought. Do you think what he means is that only 2% of them have so far been proved to be pedos?



What do you suppose that means, exactly?

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Most baffling.

I surmise the only answer - IF THESE STATISTICS ARE NOT FAKE - is that the 2% represents those cat lick clergy that enter their false priesthood because of the ample supply of raw catamite material - altar boys - available at cat lick seminaries. The remainding 98% turn homerpedophiles because of the Satanic influences provided by the cat lick teachings. Thus, by the time the originally straight or adult homer -oriented cat lick false priests enter their working life they are also ready to enter their young victims rectally.

Thus, the 2% is the proportion of pedophiles that enter the semennary. 100% is the proportion that enters boys when they exit.

As to the pope's vowing

Deuteronomy 23:18
Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.


Yours in Christ,

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Why settle for being a sodomite (Romans 1:26-27) when you can be both a sodomite and a hypocrite (Matthew 7:1-5)?

Sodomaniac "news" source (please rebuke the demons of queeritude before clicking):Shorter Archbishop Nienstedt: "I didn't do it, it was a long time ago, and it didn't involve minors."
What a horrid act! That must be part of the reason the catylicks are going to hell. Their own leaders cannot keep themselves from their follower's buttocks. Disgusting.
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