[Matou_]

Originally Posted by John Creeser

Oh I see. You can quote all you want from your works of fiction and I can't quote The Truth?

Ok fine, no problem.

First, get up off your chair and walk outside.

Two, look around and take in His majestic creation.

first you have to prove it is the truth before you can call it that. and i see what circular logic you are refering to now. the bible says there is a god and god says the bible is the truth and the bible says there is a god...round and round you go, no substance only hot air. I guess that's why the op needed a balloon? to (for once) give substance to his words?

i can show you proof of scientific principles with actual experiments using real tangible materials, models of predictability. all you have is hot air and blind followers and you insult and avoid giving answers when you are cornered.

pathetic. I thought you might actually put up a decent argument that had more substance than Monty Python's "argument" skit that was just contradiction without substance.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Matou_

first you have to prove it is the truth before you can call it that. and i see what circular logic you are refering to now. the bible says there is a god and god says the bible is the truth and the bible says there is a god...round and round you go, no substance only hot air. I guess that's why the op needed a balloon? to (for once) give substance to his words?

i can show you proof of scientific principles with actual experiments using real tangible materials, models of predictability. all you have is hot air and blind followers and you insult and avoid giving answers when you are cornered.

pathetic. I thought you might actually put up a decent argument that had more substance than Monty Python's "argument" skit that was just contradiction without substance.

How are you going to show us this scientific proof? Oh, wait, I know, it's written in a book or it's on the internet...

[littleone5]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

Water is another problem for round-earthers; If the world were round, even if there were gravity, it would all just flow to the bottom.

Seriously?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by littleone5

Seriously?

OK - pick up a ball. Pour some water on it. See what happens.

[Matou_]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Look out of the window. Compare with Genesis 1. Come back and tuck in to big slice of humble pie.

proves nothing. I want to see miracles. I want to see cnn broadcast something about faith healers that isnt an april fool's joke. I want to see proof. this thread started out by asserting 'proof' that has been shown to be false. i want to see some real proof now. you guys started it. And if you keep refering to that stupid book that has you fooled, you aren't making your position any better.

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Matou_

proves nothing. I want to see miracles. I want to see cnn broadcast something about faith healers that isnt an april fool's joke. I want to see proof. this thread started out by asserting 'proof' that has been shown to be false. i want to see some real proof now. you guys started it. And if you keep refering to that stupid book that has you fooled, you aren't making your position any better.

You want to stop with these childish, name calling attacks on The Bible?

[littleone5]

[QUOTE=Rev. Jim Osborne;546046]We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.


haha, this is so funny. Sorry if I'm a little late to the conversation, I seriously hope this is a big joke. I have been a Christian for the last 70% of my life and no where in the bible did it ever say something ridiculous as the earth is FLAT. haha. Oh, and grade 12 physics taught us to the answer to your question: If you were in a truck going 75 mpg and jumped straight up, you would land in exactly the same position you jumped from. Hope that helps.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Matou_

proves nothing. I want to see miracles. I want to see cnn broadcast something about faith healers that isnt an april fool's joke. I want to see proof. this thread started out by asserting 'proof' that has been shown to be false. i want to see some real proof now. you guys started it. And if you keep refering to that stupid book that has you fooled, you aren't making your position any better.

I want I want I want.

Can you hear how much you sound like a spoiled ungrateful brat?

Was Jesus temporarily dying on the cross not enough?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

It's like you're one of those kids who yells at your parents for being born.

[Matou_]

Originally Posted by littleone5

Seriously?

meh these idiots are just wasting everyone's time. including their own, which means they are defying the bible yet again by not redeeming their time.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Matou_

meh these idiots are just wasting everyone's time. including their own, which means they are defying the bible yet again by not redeeming their time.

Got scripture for that?

[littleone5]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

OK - pick up a ball. Pour some water on it. See what happens.

... OK. then what?
I see immediately this proves that the earth is not sitting on a large table. hehe, i know you're not serious but it's still fun to point out the obvious

[John Creeser]

haha, this is so funny. Sorry if I'm a little late to the conversation, I seriously hope this is a big joke. I have been a Christian for the last 70% of my life and no where in the bible did it ever say something ridiculous as the earth is FLAT. haha. Oh, and grade 12 physics taught us to the answer to your question: If you were in a truck going 75 mpg and jumped straight up, you would land in exactly the same position you jumped from. Hope that helps.

You're obviously not a Christian, stop referring to yourself as such. Tell me, have you ever picked up a Bible and read more than John 3:16?

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Matou_

proves nothing. I want to see miracles. I want to see cnn broadcast something about faith healers that isnt an april fool's joke. I want to see proof. this thread started out by asserting 'proof' that has been shown to be false. i want to see some real proof now. you guys started it. And if you keep refering to that stupid book that has you fooled, you aren't making your position any better.

Friend, miracles happen all the time.
Tsunami in Japan
Earthquake in Hati
Death of Elizabether Taylor and Micheal Jackson

God working it for our betterment. I know, you people want to see water turned in to wine or the parting of the seas. Been there, done that. God comes up with new and exciting miracles all the time.

[Matou_]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

I want I want I want.

Can you hear how much you sound like a spoiled ungrateful brat?

Was Jesus temporarily dying on the cross not enough?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

It's like you're one of those kids who yells at your parents for being born.

temporarily dying LOL
dead means dead. ever think about that? no one has ever come back.

what, you expect me to believe there is a deity somewhere with a bunch of angels that thought this up: let's tell them something that doesn't make sense and only those that believe it will be allowed to join us when they die...LOL what a joke I'm sure it shook heaven ...


your idiot started this with the 'proofs'. they are shown to be false. therefore you are false therefore all of this forum is false. see where i'm going? you did it to yourselves. i will be sharing this thread with everyone so the whole world can see how you are
just
plain
wrong.

thank you very much.

[Thinks Design]

Originally Posted by Matou_

meh these idiots are just wasting everyone's time. including their own, which means they are defying the bible yet again by not redeeming their time.

Did you miss my post? Or do you just ignore scientific evidence you don't agree with.

ThinksDesign.

[John Creeser]

Originally Posted by Matou_

meh these idiots are just wasting everyone's time. including their own, which means they are defying the bible yet again by not redeeming their time.

We are doing the work of Jesus Christ friend, the internet is our vehicle:

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Matou_

temporarily dying LOL
dead means dead. ever think about that? no one has ever come back.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

Can you not read?

[Matou_]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Friend, miracles happen all the time.
Tsunami in Japan
Earthquake in Hati
Death of Elizabether Taylor and Micheal Jackson

God working it for our betterment. I know, you people want to see water turned in to wine or the parting of the seas. Been there, done that. God comes up with new and exciting miracles all the time.

wow not only are you guys wrong but you're hurtful bigotted evil bastards.

I hope the next miracle is you lose your internet hosting. This site is part of the e-bullshit that needs to be cleaned up.

I have an e-card for you:





Jesus loves you




(inside)





Everyone else thinks you're an Saint.

[littleone5]

Originally Posted by John Creeser

You're obviously not a Christian, stop referring to yourself as such. Tell me, have you ever picked up a Bible and read more than John 3:16?

Excuse me? Now that is pure rudeness. The Lord will judge you when the day comes. I've been through the entire bible twice (no easy feat) and lead bible studies monthly from my home. If you're not up for friendly conversation, so be it.

Better to discuss than blindly believe.

[GodGlueorGravity]

Originally Posted by John Creeser

THIS MEANS NOTHING!!!!

You trust scientists/NASSAU after they purposely faked every single "trip" to space/the moon?? They have spent countless billions of tax payers money on WHAT? A glorified star track episode that's been ongoing since the damned thing started. That is what the joo's in hellywood are for. Not out gov't.

If they can pull the wool over your eyes with that, they can get away with ANYTHING.

There is no traveling to "space". I've posted the scriptures but I guess I have to again because it doesn't seem like it's sinking in.

Genesis 1:6-8 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

I think you've misunderstood where I'm from. I am not from America and so I have not had a chance to have the wool pulled over my eyes.

I'll explain to you the reason I think that spacetravel is possible, or, at the very least, why planets and stars exist beyond the dome of the sky. It is because I have used a teloscope. I don't mean that Ive simply looked through one, I know that won't prove anything to you, but have studied how they work. I know that if you have two objects at different distances away, one may appear blured whilst the other appears focused. This gives me a crude way of measuring depth - how blury something is through a telescope. It looks to me as if there is a space outside of the earth that can be reached. I believe in space travel because I see no reason why people can't get up that high.

But I feel that we've diverged from the original point; I may have contradicted the bible with my study with a telescope, but I did not question Gods existance in doing so and I have not made any statement claiming that I had!

I must ask as to one of your comments, though. You say that missions to space where faked (I have no strong feelings one way or the other on this subject, just to be clear), but then you say that the government wasted billions of dollars on space missions. Pardon the question, but what do you think the money was spent on if not traveling (or trying to travel) to space?

Finally, may I point out that quoting scripture to me will not add much to your argument; it would be the same as me quoting a textbook I have about Medical Physics to you.