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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 09:48 AM

here's a bit of random knowledge - the world actually produced enough food to feed it's entire population, but the bulk goes to the 'rich' countires, like Aus and America, where as something under 20% goes to Africa and so forth. As much as I enjoy the entire Christmas atmosphere (families together, not the gifts - i get to see all my little cousins, too), instead of spending moolah on that, and eating giant dinners, we could effectivly feed the world, save some people and generally make life a little better for those who need it most.
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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 09:53 AM

How about instead of giving all that to hellbound rabble, give it Jesus' favourite Church? If God didn't want them to die, he wouldn't have put them there!


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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 09:57 AM

free will is a wonderous thing, no? we are given the will and the ability to do as we please - and therefore we can save those poor people, not condemn them by our greed.
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here's a bit of random knowledge - the world actually produced enough food to feed it's entire population, but the bulk goes to the 'rich' countires, like Aus and America, where as something under 20% goes to Africa and so forth. As much as I enjoy the entire Christmas atmosphere (families together, not the gifts - i get to see all my little cousins, too), instead of spending moolah on that, and eating giant dinners, we could effectivly feed the world, save some people and generally make life a little better for those who need it most.
Typical liebral demoncratic nonsense. You want to take money off good christians and give it to heathens and the dregs of society. (I hope all your little cousins enjoy Christmas as much as you do.)


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free will is a wonderous thing, no? we are given the will and the ability to do as we please - and therefore we can save those poor people, not condemn them by our greed.
Really? How much are you and your family -- or just you, if you like -- giving to the poor this Christmas?


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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 10:06 AM

i don't know, i can't speak for my family member, I am just one person - one child, since I can't legally vote. Besides, in the end what does money do? it doesn't heal prejudice, or aim to teach people how to become self-sustained. Given the chance, I would educate every homeless person to a better way of life, teach ever disadvantaged child how to live and work, but I can't now, and if you think Im not aware of the thousands that die when I remain powerless, then you're dumber then I anticipated.
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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 10:23 AM

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i don't know, i can't speak for my family member, I am just one person - one child, since I can't legally vote. Besides, in the end what does money do? it doesn't heal prejudice, or aim to teach people how to become self-sustained. Given the chance, I would educate every homeless person to a better way of life, teach ever disadvantaged child how to live and work, but I can't now, and if you think Im not aware of the thousands that die when I remain powerless, then you're dumber then I anticipated.
I said "give" not how much "money" you were giving. But despite that "what does money do?" Ask any of the charity organisations. Do you sponsor a child, Pervie? Have you donated? Have you learnt to knit so you can provide a freezing African child with a shawl that might save their live?

Here's a couple of links that will help you learn how to volunteer and help those in third world countries. Even if you can't donate the money you get to go to movies etc, or refuse presents asking that all money be donated to the red-cross or whoever, you can give of your time.

http://www.savethechildren.org.au/
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Are you prepared to give up Netball and put the time into an effort on behalf of Save The Children, Amnesty International, etc?


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for starters, i 'give' a dang, which is a heck of a lot more then many. sorry, i don't knit, yes I have sponsered a child, yes I do the Forty Hour Famine, yes I sell raffle tickets to raise money. To a believe throwing money at the issue is the answer? nope. people need to be taught how to self sufficient, not just have charity tossed at them, then be left again when that has run out.
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for starters, i 'give' a dang, which is a heck of a lot more then many. sorry, i don't knit, yes I have sponsered a child, yes I do the Forty Hour Famine, yes I sell raffle tickets to raise money. To a believe throwing money at the issue is the answer? nope. people need to be taught how to self sufficient, not just have charity tossed at them, then be left again when that has run out.
I agree that throwing money at the issue is not the answer. More to the point, we should get our priorities straight this Christmas season:

Mark 14:4-7: And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, Why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor. And they murmured against her. And Jesus said, Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always.


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o-kay....that has to be the oddest bit of logic i have ever, ever heard...
Hey! "You ain't heard nothing yet!"

However, I simply cannot figure out how to begin a conversation with a "horse-humping netball pervert" somebody-or-else.

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Default Re: Christmas Trees are for Witches - 11-20-2006, 04:48 PM

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free will is a wonderous thing, no? we are given the will and the ability to do as we please - and therefore we can save those poor people, not condemn them by our greed.
I have no idea how your mind works, but it must be all emotion and no sense. The world has 6 BILLION people. About a MILLION die every week, but the population continues to increase. There is enough food for everyone, but only because we waste huge amounts of energy growing it. And when we DO try to feed the overpopulated masses, their governments simply sell the food and pocket the money. When we manage to get food into a starving region and the people have enough to eat, they immediately produce enough children to push themselves back to the starvation level. Trying to make Good Christians like ourselves wallow in guilt like JOOS and Catlicks in not an effective strategy. We give millions of tons of food away every year but the jungle bunnies keep killing each other and starving themselves. Good riddance.

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Well spoken, Darren. And it's only fair that if one belief is recognized, they all should be. Not just the one forced down everyone's throat. Truly, I dislike xmas. So many people who participate are always smiley and fakey and just in it for the gift giving.
Come on, ACLU.....do something!!
So, if the NAZI Pope and his sand negro buddies in Iran decided to celebrate Christmas by having a holocaust celebration parade, I suppose you'd support that in the name of multiculturalism and diversity?


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To a believe throwing money at the issue is the answer? nope. people need to be taught how to self sufficient, not just have charity tossed at them, then be left again when that has run out.
Hmm. Reading this has awakened my charitable urges. I don't know what Third World country this sinner inhabits, but I do hope that someone somewhere sets up a fund to provide it with some kind of decent educational facilities.


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