[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

That's not relevant to the subject being discussed, but just to humour you, I can tell you that I graduated from high school AND college. As for what I do, it's also not relevant, but I'll make it to you again and I'll tell you that I work on a research institution.

Of course it's relevant. You opened with your credential, "someone who works on science".

Why not just admit you're just another Google scholar?

[Lords Sheep]

Well you say the earth is flat and gravity is made up. The internet uses satellites in some instances to get the data where its going. Satellites orbit the earth. The reason they orbit the earth is gravity caused by the spinning of a round earth. And they orbit a round earth. Satelittes would not be possible if in fact the world was flat and gravity didnt exist. The internet is here because of science not god. Science has done more for mankind in the past 200 years then your religion has done in 2000. I agree science isnt science because a man in a lab coat wrote it down. Science is science because it works airplanes fly gps maps your geological location ect. Its tested and proven andbopen to criticism. In fact it encourages critism. But when theres critism you need proof. We have proved the earth is round. With not writings but airplanes, boats, manned missioms to space its all there. You say science isnt science because some scienctist wrote something down. Well I say the truth is not the truth because some man wrote a book thousands of years ago. Again where is the edge please tell me where its located? Im dying to know where is the edge? You dont know because it doesnt exist.

[Thin_icE]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Of course it's relevant. You opened with your credential, "someone who works on science".

Why not just admit you're just another Google scholar?

If it makes you feel any better, discard that affirmation, I know what I studied and what I do, that's good enough for me, the rest I'm presenting to you is hard evidence, facts that have been known for decades (or centuries even), and that are of easy access to anyone.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Lords Sheep

In fact it encourages critism.

Have you ever seen the movie, "Expelled"? It addresses just this fallacy.

[Lords Sheep]

Wheres the edge?

[Thin_icE]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Have you ever seen the movie, "Expelled"? It addresses just this fallacy.

That movie is a fallacy in itself, making a "documentary" on why people are ridiculed while trying to replace a well known, tested and proved theory with something made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except "God made it".

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Lords Sheep

Wheres the edge?

Friend, this thread has more than 8500 posts, many of which address this very question. Please do read before asking questions. I know these questions may be new to you, but if we repeat the same information over and over, that wastes everyone's time and makes for a very boring conversation. Kindly be courteous to others who come here as well.

[John North]

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

Another thing, why is it that two sticks with the exact length and positioned in the very same way in different places on Earth cast a different shadow?

Now for the shadows and the wooden sticks.

I you put the two sticks apart and put a light source in between – could even be the sun that revolves above the earth – one of the sticks will throw a shadow to the left and the other to the right (more or less, it depends on the exact location of the light source). Even if the light source is far away, giving you the impression that the sticks could be treated equally with regards to how the light hits them, there is actually a tiny difference. Since the refractive index of wood is enormous, the ever so little difference in angel between the light source and each stick may cause a big difference in the angle of the shadows

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

That movie is a fallacy in itself, making a "documentary" on why people are ridiculed while trying to replace a well known, tested and proved theory with something made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except "God made it".

So you haven't seen the movie, but you're going to criticize it. This isn't a matter of a theory being "made up, with no observational proof, no rigor and nothing except 'God made it.'" This is a matter of fact and evidence being suppressed because it does not appease the God of Secularism.

[Thin_icE]

Originally Posted by John North

Now for the shadows and the wooden sticks.

I you put the two sticks apart and put a light source in between – could even be the sun that revolves above the earth – one of the sticks will throw a shadow to the left and the other to the right (more or less, it depends on the exact location of the light source). Even if the light source is far away, giving you the impression that the sticks could be treated equally with regards to how the light hits them, there is actually a tiny difference. Since the refractive index of wood is enormous, the ever so little difference in angel between the light source and each stick may cause a big difference in the angle of the shadows

You're very wrong, and I'll tell you why. First, we're not talking about putting a light source in between two sticks, we're talking about a light source far away from the sticks, as the Sun (which, by the way, doesn't revolve above the Earth, it's the Earth that revolves around the Sun) is far, far away (and it's way much bigger than the Earth), it's safe to assume that when the light rays arrive Earth, they're perpendicular to the surface, if the Earth was flat, every shadow should have the same angle, but not on a round Earth.
By the way, could you provide a source for the "enormous refractive index of wood"? Although it doesn't really matter, because sticks are just an example, you can do the same experiment with buildings, people or whatever you want, that's the beauty of science, the results are always coherent.

[Redeemed Papist]

Seen these satellites yourself, have you?

You're investing a lot of your credibility in hearsay evidence and pretty pictures.

[John North]

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

we're talking about a light source far away from the sticks, as the Sun

Yes, as I did mention in my explaining text

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

it's safe to assume that when the light rays arrive Earth, they're perpendicular to the surface

Well, this is just an idealization of reality; one that I actually did address in my post. In practice there is a tiny difference.

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

By the way, could you provide a source for the "enormous refractive index of wood"?

Are you serious? Do you believe that the refractive index of wood is low? Close to the one of air perhaps?

Originally Posted by Thin_icE

you can do the same experiment with buildings, people or whatever you want

The refractive index of buildings and people is also very high.

[Colombian Christian]

I was married in 1999 and I'm done with this forum. All it gave me was nightmares of being butt-raped by a catholic priest

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Colombian Christian

I was married in 1999 and I'm done with this forum. All it gave me was nightmares of being butt-raped by a catholic priest

Which part of

CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS !!!


did you not get?

[A-theist69]

Omg the stupidity in here is crazy....

If gravity didn't exist then why does time speed up when your closer to bigger objects?

Our satellites have to be adjusted on a daily basis for this affect.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by A-theist69

Omg the stupidity in here is crazy....

If gravity didn't exist then why does time speed up when your closer to bigger objects?

Our satellites have to be adjusted on a daily basis for this affect.

Please provide evidence of your assertions. We do not take your say-so as evidence.

Keep in mind that your inability to differentiate between "your" and "you're" does not impart confidence in your implied status as an educated individual.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by A-theist69

If gravity didn't exist then why does time speed up when your closer to bigger objects?

I'm confused. Do you actually believe that time is slowing down for these Arabs because they're moving away from some very big objects?






Son, that is the silliest theory I've ever heard!

[A-theist69]

Originally Posted by Rev. M. Rodimer

Please provide evidence of your assertions. We do not take your say-so as evidence.

Keep in mind that your inability to differentiate between "your" and "you're" does not impart confidence in your implied status as an educated individual.

Oh no, my ipad had an autocorrect. Please by all means judge and tell me you believe in Jesus.

I just told you the proof, all satellites orbiting our round Earth have to be adjusted. They run about 1 to 2 seconds faster then we do on Earth. It's because gravity has a direct effect on time. Which Einstein proved with E=MCsquared....

Don't believe me, oh well I don't care. You could educate yourself instead of believing a plagiarized book about a man who never existed.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Originally Posted by A-theist69

Omg the stupidity in here is crazy....

If gravity didn't exist then why does time speed up when your closer to bigger objects?

Our satellites have to be adjusted on a daily basis for this affect.

Indeed, it is the epitome of stupidity to barge into a Christian forum and and ask inane and imbecilic questions without the common courtesy of reading the entire thread. Had you been polite, you would have read and seen that your questions have been answered ad nauseam.

But then I imagine you are God-mocking atheist scum, here only to antagonize simple Christian folk that love Jesus?

In Christ

[A-theist69]

Originally Posted by Brother Harold Porter

Indeed, it is the epitome of stupidity to barge into a Christian forum and and ask inane and imbecilic questions without the common courtesy of reading the entire thread. Had you been polite, you would have read and seen that your questions have been answered ad nauseam.

But then I imagine you are God-mocking atheist scum, here only to antagonize simple Christian folk that love Jesus?

In Christ

I'm a theist not an atheist. I don't believe in the proverbial god, because well they don't exist.

And nothing has logically been answered in this thread, nice try though.....