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Default Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-06-2017, 10:03 PM

After 2000 years of conflict in the middle east, including 3 wars in the last 50 years, someone had to finally have the GUTS to solve it once and for all.

Defiant Trump confirms US will recognise Jerusalem as capital of Israel

There are of course one or two Debbie Downers complaining about the move, but they are just isolated America haters. This signals the Apocalypse is finally at hand - praise Jesus!
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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 04:35 AM

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After 2000 years of conflict in the middle east, including 3 wars in the last 50 years, someone had to finally have the GUTS to solve it once and for all.
Defiant Trump confirms US will recognise Jerusalem as capital of Israel
There are of course one or two Debbie Downers complaining about the move, but they are just isolated America haters. This signals the Apocalypse is finally at hand - praise Jesus!
These are complicated times and we can feel secure God is guiding President Trump skillfully through this maze of issues. Making Jerusalem the capital of Israel will finally bring peace.


Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.
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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 04:48 AM

God is always consistent and His promises true. Ezekiel knew that God would restore His people to Jerusalem and that it would be a permanent restoration. This would be a particularly resonant message for Israelites under captivity in Babylon.
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Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Which is exactly what happened. It is because Ezekiel's prophecy was fulfilled that we can be sure he was indeed a prophet of God and not just making stuff up because it sounded good. For his contemporaries obviously the prophesying would need to pass the test of Deuteronomy 18:22 to consider him a prophet and since they did consider Ezekiel to be a prophet we can be sure his prophecies were fulfilled. Earlier, about a century before, there had been a dreadful ruler called Manasseh who was into the astrology and witchcraft, enchantments, hanging out with wizards and familiar spirits. Sounds like a right little EMO.
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Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem..
7 And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen before all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever:
8 Neither will I any more remove the foot of Israel from out of the land which I have appointed for your fathers; so that they will take heed to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.
9 So Manasseh made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to err, and to do worse than the heathen, whom the LORD had destroyed before the children of Israel.
Of course God's not going to take that lying down and they were all carted off to Babylon. Ezekiel made sure when they were there that they knew God would restore them to their home, which in fact He did. After all if God did not do that there would be no point considering the ravings of His prophets at all because that's all they would be. Ravings. Maybe by chance or by distorting history some random words could be interpreted as prophecy but that does not comply with Deuteronomy 18:22 does it? And sure enough The Temple was rebuilt.


When people ignore an agreement, whether an agreement with God or even with The United Nations, especially in combination with lethal force intended to exterminate one party involved they must think that the agreement never applied to them in the first place. Manasseh was like that. "God?" in effect he said. "Shmod! Bring on the witches baby, not too overdressed if you know what I mean.." yes I can just see the little wretch off his onion gawping at crystal balls it's just as well they hadn't invented bronies or else he'd probably have got a few of those along too. Here is UN Resolution 181.

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PART I. Section B 10(b) Settling all international disputes in which the State may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered
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PART III. Section A The City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations. The Trusteeship Council shall be designated to discharge the responsibilities of the Administering Authority on behalf of the United Nations.

PART III. Section B The City of Jerusalem shall include the present municipality of Jerusalem plus the surrounding villages and towns, the most eastern of which shall be Abu Dis; the most southern, Bethlehem; the most western, Ein Karim (including also the built-up area of Motsa); and the most northern Shu'fat etc.


The source link at bottom gives all relevant dates but my point is what happened next. Who thought the agreement never applied to them in the first place? What happened as a result of their false belief? Don't take my word for it. Just compare what the US Dept. of State has recorded with PART I Section B10(b) of the UN document itself.


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The United Nations resolution sparked conflict between Jewish and Arab groups within Palestine. Fighting began with attacks by irregular bands of Palestinian Arabs attached to local units of the Arab Liberation Army composed of volunteers from Palestine and neighboring Arab countries. These groups launched their attacks against Jewish cities, settlements, and armed forces. The Jewish forces were composed of the Haganah, the underground militia of the Jewish community in Palestine, and two small irregular groups, the Irgun, and LEHI. The goal of the Arabs was initially to block the Partition Resolution and to prevent the establishment of the Jewish state. The Jews, on the other hand, hoped to gain control over the territory allotted to them under the Partition Plan.

After Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948, the fighting intensified with other Arab forces joining the Palestinian Arabs in attacking territory in the former Palestinian mandate. On the eve of May 14, the Arabs launched an air attack on Tel Aviv, which the Israelis resisted. This action was followed by the invasion of the former Palestinian mandate by Arab armies from Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt. Saudi Arabia sent a formation that fought under the Egyptian command.


God is always consistent and His promises true. If it were not so should we even call Him God? Of course not. And the promise of a permanent restoration for His people to Jerusalem made all those years ago was fulfilled even as dry bones were resurrected, clothed with flesh and sinew, draped with skin and filled with breath, of God.
EZEKIEL 37 .KJV . look up
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[God speaking] Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, and shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 04:59 AM

I'm fully behind Trump once again - someone had to stand up and do something. Sure, the "Debbie Downers" are in a titter about "peace" - but none of them can name a time when there has been "peace" with the "religion of peace".

To my mind the Jews have been entirely too tolerant of the mooselimbs - who built that mosque on the Temple Mount. It should have been blown up a long time ago, but hey - I'm not in charge over there.

We might have a little problem with getting the mooselimbs behind this. They're all waiting for the "12th Imam" (Muhammad al-Mahdi) to return, and depending on who you talk to he is either in hiding or hasn't been born yet. At any rate, al-Mahdi is supposed to arrive on the scene in the final "battle" for peace and justice for the mooselimbs.

Likewise, the Jews are still waiting for their "Messiah", and we Christians have been waiting far too long for Jesus to come back as He promised.

I say we light the whole thing off now and get it finally over with - even the atheists should be mildly curious to see which "god" is going to arrive.


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I'm fully behind Trump once again - someone had to stand up and do something. Sure, the "Debbie Downers" are in a titter about "peace" - but none of them can name a time when there has been "peace" with the "religion of peace".

To my mind the Jews have been entirely too tolerant of the mooselimbs - who built that mosque on the Temple Mount. It should have been blown up a long time ago, but hey - I'm not in charge over there.

We might have a little problem with getting the mooselimbs behind this. They're all waiting for the "12th Imam" (Muhammad al-Mahdi) to return, and depending on who you talk to he is either in hiding or hasn't been born yet. At any rate, al-Mahdi is supposed to arrive on the scene in the final "battle" for peace and justice for the mooselimbs.

Likewise, the Jews are still waiting for their "Messiah", and we Christians have been waiting far too long for Jesus to come back as He promised.

I say we light the whole thing off now and get it finally over with - even the atheists should be mildly curious to see which "god" is going to arrive.
Perhaps in time they'll get it with one of their own missiles!
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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 06:34 AM

The palestinians are like the native americans. They should accept that their land is gone and open casinos.
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The palestinians are like the native americans. They should accept that their land is gone and open casinos.
Indeed, Brother. The first time God gave Palestine to the Jews, it involved a God Approved™ genocide of the original owners of the land. Palestinians should be happy this is not happening again today:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

That genocide did not leave a single soul alive. Palestinians, on the other hand, are allowed to live - in extreme poverty comparing to their Israeli neighbors, but they are allowed to live and even to work for the Jews, and they should be eternally grateful for that.
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After 2000 years of conflict in the middle east, including 3 wars in the last 50 years, someone had to finally have the GUTS to solve it once and for all.

Defiant Trump confirms US will recognise Jerusalem as capital of Israel

There are of course one or two Debbie Downers complaining about the move, but they are just isolated America haters. This signals the Apocalypse is finally at hand - praise Jesus!
It is the staggering simple genius of it all that takes my breath away - there we all were from 1948, agonizing over a solution when in walks Donald and states, in simple words, the thing that the world missed!

The answer was hidden in plain sight!

What a guy! For this alone he has my vote for life.




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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 09:54 PM

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Indeed, Brother. The first time God gave Palestine to the Jews, it involved a God Approved™ genocide of the original owners of the land. Palestinians should be happy this is not happening again today:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

That genocide did not leave a single soul alive. Palestinians, on the other hand, are allowed to live - in extreme poverty comparing to their Israeli neighbors, but they are allowed to live and even to work for the Jews, and they should be eternally grateful for that.
Indeed, God had the right idea - wipe them all out so that there's no one left to lay claim and file troublesome lawsuits - or otherwise cause international turmoil.

The Palestinians have their own problems - as Canaanites, Amorites, Ancient Egyptians, Israelites, Moabites, Ammonites, Tjeker, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, ancient Greeks, Romans, Umayads, Abbasids, Seljuqs, and Fatimids all occupied the land before they came along and took it (mostly with the help of the Ottoman mooselimbs).

Brother Titus is right, they should find something useful to do - like becoming Christians, embracing capitalism, and getting rich. I don't think casinos will work with mooselimbs, but making some kind of Hummus that they can sell to Hipsters and Limousine Bolsheviks at a high imported price might do the trick.


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brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
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Default Re: Master negotiator Trump SOLVES the middle east - 12-07-2017, 10:02 PM

It would be wonderful if the heathens put away their idol and learned about God, as we have. Then they could prosper, too. The Bible is clear about the link between spiritual hygiene and prosperity. Although they arrive wherever they go under false pretences..sworn in their hearts to overthrow and replace the host community or at least to benefit from such an overthrow..and although nobody wants them, at least since they have arrived we get the opportunity to try. I doubt that the overthrowers themselves can ever be persuaded to give up the sword but those who seek to benefit, in the fulness of time, may be challenged to think and if they do that and see The Truth then they will defund the jihadis. But first we need to present to them the reality of Jesus and the falsehood of all delusions.
III JOHN 1 .KJV . look up
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Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
3 For I rejoiced greatly, when the brethren came and testified of the truth that is in thee, even as thou walkest in the truth.
The principle is clear, material prosperity follows on from prosperity of the soul. Which is impossible for any idolator even though they say it isn't an idol and isn't the moon either. In which case it could be a crescent sun I suppose occurring in conjunction with a shooting star. That would put the willies up any superstitious types I bet indeed I will go beyond that, any such event would warrant the ab-dabs. Screaming ab-dabs! Then they would make an idol about it. Sure! It's the sun! Does God care what it is?
DEUTERONOMY 4 .KJV . look up . cf EXODUS 20:4-5
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[The LORD] declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.
19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Prosperity is available to those who follow The Truth and although a debased form of lucre may be available to looters and pillagers or to those who pile up wealth at the expense of everyone else..apart from their cronies more or less as Marx described but a society must be corrupt indeed for Marxist principles to kick in..no such society can be described as prosperous. Our message is simple. Prosperity does not result from gaining something, it comes from losing something. Losing superstition. Losing false beliefs. Losing delusion.

These are not new ideas.
I KINGS 2 .KJV . look up
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Keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself.
It needs no comment from me to see what that means. Just read the statutes and commandments themselves. I've posted them for that reason. There are people (heathens) who claim these writings are corrupted. That over the years they've been distorted, added to, even fabricated they would inform us. Yet across centuries from the writings of Moses and the annals of Joshua to that advice given by King David to his son we are able to compare this "adulteration" for ourselves. Again no comment is needed. From the historical record:
JOSHUA 1 .KJV . look up
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Only be thou strong and very courageous, that thou mayest observe to do according to all the law, which Moses my servant commanded thee: turn not from it to the right hand or to the left, that thou mayest prosper whithersoever thou goest.
The extreme poverty we see among idolators has a very simple solution. To recognise The Truth is never a loss. It is always a gain. My prayers go out for Jerusalem, God's capital, and for surrounding areas including idolatrous sink estates where wretched heathens grovel, that they will read God's Word and see in it The Truth of every claim and promise. Prosperity is possible but first you need to give something up. And that will not be a loss.
PHILIPPIANS 3 .KJV . look up
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But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8a Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord:
8b For whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
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