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Default Re: Senate Republicans join in vote for cloture on DADT - 12-21-2010, 05:51 AM

Found out what the rest of the appeal schedule is

Here it is. (copied this from somewhere)

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1. The bill goes to the President’s desk Wednesday, who will sign it.
2. The President, Chairman of the JCS and Secretary of Defense must certify, in writing, to Congress, that repeal is good for the country and the military is prepared.
3. There must be a 60-day waiting period afterwards that Sen. Byrd inserted into the bill for no apparent useful reason.
4. After all that is met, the law will be repealed.
Somewhere around there pentagon decides about base housing, benefits for spouses and partners of Lesbian gay bisexual service people.
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3. There must be a 60-day waiting period afterwards that Sen. Byrd inserted into the bill for no apparent useful reason.
I assume that 60-day waiting period is there to give us True Christians™ a chance to immigrate to a country that doesn't allow homosexuals in the military, meaning a country that can defend itself.


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I assume that 60-day waiting period is there to give us True Christians™ a chance to immigrate to a country that doesn't allow homosexuals in the military, meaning a country that can defend itself.
I read thats procedure to give openings for lawsuit if someone wants to sue but what would the damages be?

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I read thats procedure to give openings for lawsuit if someone wants to sue but what would the damages be?

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I don't know what the damages would be. How do you calculate how much America is worth!?

Is it our countries GDP? Can we put a price on the honor of having a military able to defend itself? Why don't we just put a price on every man, woman and child in the country, because there won't be an America left when some unGodly nation takes advantage of our weakened military and takes over!


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I don't know what the damages would be. How do you calculate how much America is worth!?
When will it sink for some of you...gays and lesbians bisexuals have been there all the time. They're polling military people about vote now and its reflecting of what was in the report...some feel positive, some (the marines) are negative but over 70 percent of them DON'T CARE.

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When will it sink for some of you...gays and lesbians bisexuals have been there all the time. They're polling military people about vote now and its reflecting of what was in the report...some feel positive, some (the marines) are negative but over 70 percent of them DON'T CARE.

Its not a problem in the real world. Its only here you hearing the doom gloom.
When will it sink in for you? All throughout history the most successful armies in the world have been entirely composed of heterosexuals! How do you think the 300 Spartans fought off the ENTIRE Persian army? How do you think the Roman legionaries were able to conquer the known world at the time? How do you think the Knights Templar were able to stop the spread of Islamofascism and recapture the Holy Land during the Crusades?

I'll give you a hint. Their soldiers weren't thinking about the next man they were going to sodomize! They were too busy fighting to protect their WIVES and families!

Now, want to know what happens when a country allows homosexuals to openly serve? Just take a look at France's military history.


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well lets see what soldiers have to say

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Reactions to DADT repeal mixed among servicemembers
Servicemembers around the globe reacted to the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” – some with apprehensions, but most indifferent or supportive of repeal.

Many soldiers at Combat Outpost Terra Nova near Kandahar, Afghanistan, where they’ve spent months in intense combat, were indifferent about the repeal, caring more about the skill of the man next to him than his sexual orientation.

Staff Sgt. Cleveland Carr, an infantry soldier with 1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team,101st Airborne Division, said that all he cared about was whether the person next to him “knows how to shoot and shoot well. I’m just worried about skill set. I don’t care; come on in. That’s one more person putting rounds downrange.”
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Carr said he thought the concerns about showers and sleeping arrangements were silly and that it was a waste of time for the military to be concerned about the sexual orientation of its servicemembers when there’s a war to fight.

“The last thing we should be spending our time on is if this man likes men,” he said. “It’s so crazy because gay men and women are in the Army now and getting the job done. So, what changes if we know they’re gay? For me, it would be like, ‘You’re gay? OK. Get back to work.’”

For Spc. Craig Miller, if someone wants to serve their country, “then by all means,” he said. “It doesn’t matter to me what someone’s sexuality is. I look at everyone in the Army as just soldiers,” adding that he won’t put up with backlash.

“I’ll go up against anyone who has a problem with it,” he said.
Chief Warrant Officer 2 Ahmad Staley said he didn’t care if gay soldiers served with him, but he did think there would be hurdles to overcome.
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Fort Campbell Soldiers Respond to “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” Repeal
Repeal of the military’s 17-year-old “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy concerning gay service members could mean big changes at Fort Campbell over the next few months.

One officer said this about the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”: “No one has any issues with it at all.” This former brigade commander did not, however, want to go on the record.

A few enlisted members of the 101st Airborne didn’t mind sharing their thoughts.

ARTIS: “I know numerous gay soldiers that I serve with, that are in my company, that I fight side-by-side with.

Pvt. Devere Artis will deploy to Afghanistan in March. At 22 years old, he’s already served two tours.

Artis says he’s fine with lifting the ban on serving openly, but mostly so he’ll know for sure who is gay. He says he still doesn’t want homosexual behavior in his face.

ARTIS: “You like flowers and daisies, like flowers and daisies, but don’t do it while we’re trying to stick together so we can come back alive.”

One soldier told me she feared for the wellbeing of infantry members who come out.

The Department of Defense survey regarding “don’t ask, don’t tell” indicates broad support or indifference toward repeal, about 70 percent of returned surveys, but frontline troops are more mixed. Nearly 50 percent of the Army’s combat elements said repeal would have a negative effect.

Spc. Brad Baldwin leaves for Afghanistan next year and says he sides with those who don’t see any problems.

BALDWIN: “Still going to go do my job, do my duty, and nothing’s going to change just because some policy changes and somebody’s living a different lifestyle than me.”

The commander of the 101st Airborne has said his 17,000 troops in Afghanistan have bigger concerns. Maj. Gen. John Campbell told reporters this fall that for a soldier on the front lines, repeal of don’t ask, don’t tell is “probably the farthest thing from their mind.”

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Brainwashing and indoctrination perpetrated by the radical, militant sodomite agenda!

This is EXACTLY why we need to return our Godly American army to the successful military values of the Spartans and the Romans! No women and no gays, but rather a group of well-trained, muscular, fully heterosexual well-oiled killing machines!


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Brainwashing and indoctrination perpetrated by the radical, militant sodomite agenda!
I will give you a discount rate at our B&B because you need vacation. You are turning it all into huge disaster when the people MOST affected are telling you it's not problem causing.

Fear fear fear. Maybe if you met a lesbian or gay person youd see them as human beings and not so much imaginary monsters. That is why the study said the troop soldiers who had worked with soldiers known as gay lesbian bisexual were more knowing of the fact it didn't make any difference.

Seriously young lady. I think you At least need a spa massage and relax.
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Seriously young lady. I think you At least need a spa massage and relax.
NEVER! The LAST thing I need is a spa massage!

How can you expect me to RELAX when country, MY America, is dismantling its armed forces and basing it on some degenerate European model? Don't you know what happens when homosexuals are included in a nation's military? They get invaded, over and over again, until they finally just lay down and SURRENDER. Then the next thing you know we have millions of foreign troops rushing in, covering our streets and rushing through our back alleyways.

That's not the America I want to see!!


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Default Re: Senate Republicans join in vote for cloture on DADT - 12-21-2010, 11:07 AM

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When will it sink in for you? All throughout history the most successful armies in the world have been entirely composed of heterosexuals! How do you think the 300 Spartans fought off the ENTIRE Persian army? How do you think the Roman legionaries were able to conquer the known world at the time? How do you think the Knights Templar were able to stop the spread of Islamofascism and recapture the Holy Land during the Crusades?

I'll give you a hint. Their soldiers weren't thinking about the next man they were going to sodomize! They were too busy fighting to protect their WIVES and families!

Now, want to know what happens when a country allows homosexuals to openly serve? Just take a look at France's military history.
I'm trying to imagine how two gay armies would fight each other. Say, France and Greece. Would it be a massive slap fight until they all collapsed, giggling? Then they'd break out the pillows and go at each other until their passions overcame them and then it would be a million man orgy. Who would win a war like that?
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Default Re: Senate Republicans join in vote for cloture on DADT - 12-21-2010, 11:21 AM

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I'm trying to imagine how two gay armies would fight each other. Say, France and Greece. Would it be a massive slap fight until they all collapsed, giggling? Then they'd break out the pillows and go at each other until their passions overcame them and then it would be a million man orgy. Who would win a war like that?
Most likely they would go out for a dinner date and argue who is the man to pay the bill.


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Default Re: Senate Republicans join in vote for cloture on DADT - 12-22-2010, 03:05 AM

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Most likely they would go out for a dinner date and argue who is the man to pay the bill.

Where did Congress get the idea that going to war is supposed to be one big dating bonanza.


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