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Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-07-2012, 06:17 PM
It seems that in the wake of the accidental shooting of Trayvon Martin, colored parents across the country are sitting their children down and having "the talk," giving their kids helpful hints for avoiding becoming the victims of accidental shootings.
Preventing a repeat of the Trayvon tragedy is a two-way street, however, and it is incumbent upon white parents everywhere to recognize the fact that merely instructing your children on proper target acquisition and shooting technique may not be sufficient.
If you're like a lot of parents, you may not know quite how to broach the subject, or what topics to cover.
Fortunately, National Review contributor John Derbyshire has penned a handy set of talking points for you to employ with your sons and daughters. In the interest of racial harmony and saving lives, I'm sure you will want to have a "talk" very similar to this one with your sons and daughters:
The Talk: Nonblack Version
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There is much talk about “the talk.”
“Sean O’Reilly was 16 when his mother gave him the talk that most black parents give their teenage sons,” Denisa R. Superville of the Hackensack (NJ) Record tells us. Meanwhile, down in Atlanta: “Her sons were 12 and 8 when Marlyn Tillman realized it was time for her to have the talk,” Gracie Bonds Staples writes in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
Leonard Greene talks about the talk in the New York Post. Someone bylined as KJ Dell’Antonia talks about the talk in The New York Times. Darryl Owens talks about the talk in the Orlando Sentinel.
Yes, talk about the talk is all over.
There is a talk that nonblack Americans have with their kids, too. My own kids, now 19 and 16, have had it in bits and pieces as subtopics have arisen. If I were to assemble it into a single talk, it would look something like the following.
(1) Among your fellow citizens are forty million who identify as black, and whom I shall refer to as black. The cumbersome (and MLK-noncompliant) term “African-American” seems to be in decline, thank goodness. “Colored” and “Negro” are archaisms. What you must call “the ‘N’ word” is used freely among blacks but is taboo to nonblacks.
(2) American blacks are descended from West African populations, with some white and aboriginal-American admixture. The overall average of non-African admixture is 20-25 percent. The admixture distribution is nonlinear, though: “It seems that around 10 percent of the African American population is more than half European in ancestry.” (Same link.)
(3) Your own ancestry is mixed north-European and northeast-Asian, but blacks will take you to be white.
(4) The default principle in everyday personal encounters is, that as a fellow citizen, with the same rights and obligations as yourself, any individual black is entitled to the same courtesies you would extend to a nonblack citizen. That is basic good manners and good citizenship. In some unusual circumstances, however—e.g., paragraph (10h) below—this default principle should be overridden by considerations of personal safety.
(5) As with any population of such a size, there is great variation among blacks in every human trait (except, obviously, the trait of identifying oneself as black). They come fat, thin, tall, short, dumb, smart, introverted, extroverted, honest, crooked, athletic, sedentary, fastidious, sloppy, amiable, and obnoxious. There are black geniuses and black mormons. There are black saints and black psychopaths. In a population of forty million, you will find almost any human type. Only at the far, far extremes of certain traits are there absences. There are, for example, no black Fields Medal winners. While this is civilizationally consequential, it will not likely ever be important to you personally. Most people live and die without ever meeting (or wishing to meet) a Fields Medal winner.
(6) As you go through life, however, you will experience an ever larger number of encounters with black Americans. Assuming your encounters are random—for example, not restricted only to black convicted murderers or to black investment bankers—the Law of Large Numbers will inevitably kick in. You will observe that the means—the averages—of many traits are very different for black and white Americans, as has been confirmed by methodical inquiries in the human sciences.
(7) Of most importance to your personal safety are the very different means for antisocial behavior, which you will see reflected in, for instance, school disciplinary measures, political corruption, and criminal convictions.
(8) These differences are magnified by the hostility many blacks feel toward whites. Thus, while black-on-black behavior is more antisocial in the average than is white-on-white behavior, average black-on-white behavior is a degree more antisocial yet.
(9) A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us. A much larger cohort of blacks—around half—will go along passively if the five percent take leadership in some event. They will do this out of racial solidarity, the natural willingness of most human beings to be led, and a vague feeling that whites have it coming.
(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:
(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.
(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).
(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.
(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.
(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.
(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.
(11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.”
(12) There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the black stranger will be less intelligent than the white. In such encounters, therefore—for example, at a government office—you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a white than by a black. If that hostility-based magnifying effect (paragraph 8 ) is also in play, you will be dealt with more politely, too. “The DMV lady“ is a statistical truth, not a myth.
(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.
(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.
(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).
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You don’t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are white or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk. It will save them a lot of time and trouble spent figuring things out for themselves. It may save their lives.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-07-2012, 11:54 PM
I'm white, most of my neighbors are black, and we all get along just fine. We speak to each other on the street, invite each other over for cookouts and such, visit each other's homes just to have coffee and chat.
Just this afternoon, I was changing the brake pads on my car and couldn't find my C-clamp. My neighbor was out weed-eating his lawn and I borrowed a C-clamp from him.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleur-de-lis
I'm white, most of my neighbors are black, and we all get along just fine. We speak to each other on the street, invite each other over for cookouts and such, visit each other's homes just to have coffee and chat.
Just this afternoon, I was changing the brake pads on my car and couldn't find my C-clamp. My neighbor was out weed-eating his lawn and I borrowed a C-clamp from him.
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Friend, I am glad you get along with those neighbors. Why you would live there in the first place is another matter. I mean, I'll visit a zoo but no way am I going to move into the chimp house, the smell, well I do not have to tell you about that smell.
Are you sure it was his C-clamp you borrowed and not the one he stole from you?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 12:32 AM
I thought we weren't supposed to use the C-word. Isn't it offensive to women or some such?
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleur-de-lis
I'm white, most of my neighbors are black, and we all get along just fine. We speak to each other on the street, invite each other over for cookouts and such, visit each other's homes just to have coffee and chat.
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I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood myself for a while. Aside from the periodic late-night gunshots, it was a peaceful area.
Never had a problem with my neighbors.
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Just this afternoon, I was changing the brake pads on my car and couldn't find my C-clamp. My neighbor was out weed-eating his lawn and I borrowed a C-clamp from him.
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Is your neighbor a goat?
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 03:54 AM
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I lived in a predominantly black neighborhood myself for a while. Aside from the periodic late-night gunshots, it was a peaceful area.
Never had a problem with my neighbors.
Is your neighbor a goat?
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No, my neighbor is not a goat. He was using a Weed-eater (a gas-powered trimmer).
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 03:59 AM
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No, my neighbor is not a goat. He was using a Weed-eater (a gas-powered trimmer).
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OH! Thank you, that makes much more sense.
I'm glad your neighbors don't frequently riot. What do they think of you moving into their neighborhood?
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-08-2012, 09:31 AM
I'd say they were surely excited about the presence of a white person raising property values, but they're probably renters, and don't care.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-12-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Faith_Machine
Fortunately, National Review contributor John Derbyshire has penned a handy set of talking points for you to employ with your sons and daughters. In the interest of racial harmony and saving lives, I'm sure you will want to have a "talk" very similar to this one with your sons and daughters:
The Talk: Nonblack Version
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You all will be interested to know that John Derbyshire was fired by National Review for exercising his free speech rights.
Says National Review editor Rich Lowry:
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His latest provocation, in a webzine, lurches from the politically incorrect to the nasty and indefensible. We never would have published it, but the main reason that people noticed it is that it is by a National Review writer. Derb is effectively using our name to get more oxygen for views with which we’d never associate ourselves otherwise.
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"Derb"? Do they really call him Derb? Is that supposed to sound just like "Derp"?
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-13-2012, 01:00 PM
Faith Machine, I just watched your video "a man named Pearl" and was stunned by the audacity of this so called gardener. I'm sure the real whites that actually live there will be stunned also when they return from Aruba or where ever they were vacationing, to witness this imposter from the ghetto, high on crack or goof balls, that seized the opportunity to be a 'pretend groundskeeper'.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-13-2012, 06:17 PM
I'd assumed he was doing all that gardening on his own garden. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an awful lot of gardening to fit on one sharecropper's land. If he's trespassing on his neighbors' lawns, I sure do hope somebody explains to him exactly what the "stand your ground" law could mean to him.
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Re: Parents, have you had "the talk" with your kids? -
04-13-2012, 06:39 PM
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I'd assumed he was doing all that gardening on his own garden. Now that you mention it, that does seem like an awful lot of gardening to fit on one sharecropper's land. If he's trespassing on his neighbors' lawns, I sure do hope somebody explains to him exactly what the "stand your ground" law could mean to him.
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The sad part is the unfortunate whites that really own the well groomed yard surely worked their tails off finding oriental and latino workers to perform this work. The whites probably scoured craiglist and mexican labor camps tirelessly until they found suitable labor.
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